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didn't work at first either. Here is the line from my CONFIG.SYS file: RP>DEVICE=C:\CDROM\CDMKE43.SYS /D:CDROM1 /SBP:220 /N:1 /S RP>The switch I was missing (and is not documented anywhere) is the /SBP:220 >switch. I have an SB 16 ASP, but try it with your card anyway, it might just >work. The `220' refers the card's port address, so substitute your own here. >I'm 95% certain that's what your problem is. BTW, 4.3 is the latest version >that particular driver; I have the driver from Creative Labs but ended up >using >this one instead. The drivers were responsible for the problems that I was having getting the thing to work on the SB16 ... a new set of drivers off of a PS/1 MultiMedia PC seemed to clear that up. The problem was that I couldn't specify a new address for the SB16 so the drivers could never find the drive. The four drive letter arose from the crappy CD-ROM interface card that came with the drive. Thanks for the help. Shawn --- * QMPro 1.50 12-3456 * Your E-Mail has been returned due to insufficient voltage --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: Home Base BBS, St. Thomas, Ontario (1:221/128) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SHAWN ADAMSSON Number: 10352 To: WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR. Date: 12/27/93 12:13p Subj: SB16 & Panasonic 562 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No WSJ>Hello Shawn. I think that your whole problem is the jumper setting on >the back of the drive. I beleive that there are jumpers 0-3 (?), and if >you only have one drive, put the jumper on '0'. I've never heard of the >'mke41.sys' drivers, where did you get this? I use the 'Golden1' drivers >that came with my drive, and had it working with both a Sound Blaster >Pro and a Sound Blaster 16 without a hitch. Well, I did have to copy the >current version of MSCDEX from my DOS 6.0 directory to the GSPRO >directory to get DOS to see the drive. I hope that this helps you out, >let me know if it does. The drivers were responsible for the problems that I was having getting the thing to work on the SB16 ... a new set of drivers off of a PS/1 MultiMedia PC seemed to clear that up. The problem was that I couldn't specify a new address for the SB16 so the drivers could never find the drive. The four drive letter arose from the crappy CD-ROM interface card that came with the drive. Thanks for the help. Shawn --- * QMPro 1.50 12-3456 * Soon To Be A Major Motion Picture. --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: Home Base BBS, St. Thomas, Ontario (1:221/128) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVEN STEPP Number: 10353 To: ALL Date: 12/25/93 1:09p Subj: VIDEO OUTPUT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Help please! I just got a CD ROM and sound card. This was bundled with Microsoft multimedia pack for windows 3.1. The sound is fine but the video stinks. I am running a 25Mhz 386 with 8 megs of memory. There is no math co-processor or special windows ex card. Is ther anything I can do to get the video to play correctly? Merry Christmas and thanks for the help Steve --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: The File Bank, Inc. (303) 534-4646 - Files, Files, Files (1:104/899) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIMOTHY PAQUETTE @ 903/5 Number: 10354 To: BOB DUNN Date: 12/24/93 3:42p Subj: For the largest selection Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BD>*F> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to u BD>*F> We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request. BD>*F> CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles avail BD>Bob Dunn BD>51 Hubbell Ave BD>Ansonia, CT 06401-1329 Yes please! Address: Tim Paquette 1330B Van Noyes DR. SE. Albuquerque, NM. 87116 Thanks! OLX 2.1 TD All wiyht. Rho sritched mg kegtops awound? --- OverMail v0.82b # Origin: The Cavern of Cyborg (USR Dual 16.8) Albuquerque, NM (505) 268-1669 (8:903/5) * Origin: Gateway System to/from RBBS-NET (RBBS-PC 1:10/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANDREW BARNHARDT Number: 10355 To: ALL Date: 12/26/93 2:41p Subj: Canadian CD Distributor?? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey.. I'm looking for a Canadian CD-ROM (disc) distributor. Netmail me a catalog at the address in the tagline or mail it to me @: Andrew Barnhardt 869 Garrison Road Fort Erie, Ont. L2A 1N6 No adults-only distributors! = Andrew B. --- PTQWK 1.05 (Reg.) * Origin: The Prime Directive, ZyXEL 19.2, Node *1 (905)382-3446 (1:247/301) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WARREN KREICK Number: 10356 To: RICH FISHER Date: 12/25/93 1:05p Subj: Re: MITSUMI OR PANASONIC ??? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 23 Dec 93 11:33pm, Rich Fisher wrote to Warren Kreick: RF> If interested please call me: RF> Home: (816) 358-4809 RF> Work: (913) 541-1861 RF> Pager: (816) 391-4069 RF> Thanks and Merry Christmas Thank you Rich - I've forwarded this to a few people who are looking for such a combo right now, I'm sure you'll get a interested party or two on this ;-) Season's greeting to you 'n yours ! \\~arren ... Merry Xmas, Happy Hanukah, Feliz Navidad, etc, etc, etc --- Via Silver Xpress V4.00 CA10214 --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: Technology Transfer - Luseland, Sk. (306) 372-4903 (1:140/62) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK PEDLEY Number: 10357 To: DAVE CLARK Date: 12/26/93 10:57p Subj: Cdrom & network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DC>Rick, give me a call on my BBS, and I'll write you a quick explanation DC>of how to make your CD's work with Lantastic. Thanks for the offer Dave, but I finally got it to work. As I suspected, I'd done all the right things according to the documentation, and went through complete installation several times just to make sure. But something extremely weird was going on and I wonder if anyone has had the following problem: The manual suggests naming your CD-ROM resource something like CD_DRIVE instead of the usual defaults like A-DRIVE, B-DRIVE, etc. So that's what I did, using on one occasion CD_DRIVE, another time CDROM1. When you do this, NET_MGR creates a subdirectory with that name and you can see them all in \LANTASTI.NET. When I started up the network however, I'd always get that damned `File not found, USE failed' message and I wondered how it could possibly be not finding a file. Then one day I decided to look inside the CD_DRIVE directory to examine the files in it, and DOS would not allow me to log onto that directory! Some message like `Not a directory' or `Access denied to this directory' -- some- thing like that. I couldn't delete the directory and its contents with DELDIR, and I couldn't rename the directory with RENDIR. PCTools refused to do anything with it; same thing with the other one I had created, CDROM1. But I had no problem getting into a directory such as \A-DRIVE or \C-DRIVE. It didn't matter whether the network was up or not, I could not access those two directories, and presumably NET couldn't either, hence the `USE failed' message. Once I saw this, I decided to just name the resource V-DRIVE since the drive is designated as drive V, and that fixed it! It makes no sense to me at all; there are no illegal characters in CD_DRIVE, I'm not using any password restricted directories; simply changing the name fixed the problem. Have you ever come across this before? Rick * DeLuxe2 1.26b #9691 * --- InterPCB 1.52 * Origin: CrossRoads * Kingston, Ont. Canada (1:249/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE REED Number: 10358 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 12/26/93 4:53p Subj: Virus Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No Hello Mike! Thursday December 23 1993 01:15, Mike Shannon wrote to Rick Shoaf: MS> Nice job Rick......couldn't have said it better myself. ;-) MS> * SLMR 2.1a * I've told you a million times not to exaggerate. I've been tagline hunting, lately. ;-) Later, Dave ... "Ismail! That! feels! wonderful!" "It's head, Jim." --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219+/46DK3 * Origin: The CrossRoads BBS * Ephrata, WA * (509)246-0548 (1:344/79) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRANE FRANCKS Number: 10359 To: JOE RINEHART Date: 12/26/93 10:53p Subj: !free Cd catalog! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Joe Rinehart to All <=- -=> Re:"!free Cd catalog!" on 23 Dec 93 04:33 <=- JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us. Hi, Joe. Yes, I'd like a copy, if you don't mind. My address is: Trane Francks Pearl Heights C-105 Hosoda 5-3-8, Katsushika-ku Tokyo Japan 124 Much obliged. ;-) --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 * Origin: The Watering Hole BBS Tokyo +81-3-3657-9255 (6:730/18) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK ANTILL Number: 10360 To: JOE RINEHART Date: 12/26/93 12:53p Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Please send me a copy of any catalogs you have. Thanks Richard L. Antill PSC 473 Box 8 FPO AP 96349-1400 ... Back up my hard disk? I can't find the reverse switch! --- PTQWK 1.05 (Eval.) * Origin: This Message seen leaving Tokyo Japan, on ACE BBS! (6:731/3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK ANTILL Number: 10361 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 12/26/93 12:57p Subj: Re: A FEW CD TITLES...... Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No Could you send me a copy of your catalog ? Richard L. Antill PSC 473 Box 8 FPO AP 96349-1400 Thanks ... A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer. --- PTQWK 1.05 (Eval.) * Origin: This Message seen leaving Tokyo Japan, on ACE BBS! (6:731/3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD ANTILL Number: 10362 To: JOE RINEHART Date: 12/26/93 5:24p Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Please send me a copy of your catalog. Richard L. Antill PSC 473 Box 8 FPO AP 96349-1400 Thanks ... Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: BillBoard Sagamihara Ja 81-427-77-0847 V32Bis [CDROM] (6:731/16) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD ANTILL Number: 10363 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 12/26/93 5:28p Subj: Re: A FEW CD TITLES...... Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No Could I get a copy of a complete catalog with the current prices ? Thanks Richard L. Antill PSC 473 Box 8 FPO AP 96349-1400 ... I call things as I see them; If I didn't see them, I make them up! --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: BillBoard Sagamihara Ja 81-427-77-0847 V32Bis [CDROM] (6:731/16) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON RAICHLE Number: 10364 To: JACK WIGGINS Date: 12/24/93 7:37p Subj: CD-ROM INFO HELP!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JW>I just saw a text file regarding how to daisy chain Mitsumi drives. Didn't >download it because of time considerations but if this is something wanted, >I'll be happy to go get the file and see what it says. Would you, Jack? I'd sure like to know some more about that. Thanks. Don --- WM v3.10/92-0699 * Origin: Lightning in a Bottle BBS * NJ * 201-731-7194 (1:2605/104) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TYRONNE FOY Number: 10365 To: DAVE CLARK Date: 12/27/93 10:58a Subj: Re: Cdrom & network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DC> DC>If you really want to get cute, then put your CD's on a "dedicated DC>server" (nearly anything will do, I use 286 machines with one meg of DC>ram for the job), and you can then call all the drives on that server DC>by one drive letter! It's great if you have multiple drives, and are DC>running out of letters to put them on... DC> DC>I'm personally running 28 CD's online right now, using only two drive DC>letters to do it. I love Lantastic! DC> DC> Dave Clark, Arsenal Computer No can DO at this time! In my haste to setup my other node 2 years ago I failed to understand network drive topography & blew it. It would take me 2 weeks to straighten out this mess. One of these days I do it. Makes running CDs, Doors...etc pure Hell! Tyronne --- MsgToss 2.0c! (r) * Origin: Intercity RBBS, Richmond VA.(21.6DS) (1:264/152) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NORM HILL Number: 10366 To: LAWRENCE MINTZ Date: 12/27/93 4:37p Subj: Cr-562 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LM> > Can somebody point in the right direction of how to LM> > get a Panisonic LM> > CR-562 work with OS/2. It works fine in DOS but when LM> > I try to install LM> > the OS/2 upgrade,(which has 2 disks and a CD-ROM) it LM> > doesn't recognize LM> > the CD. I download a driver from the Creative Labs BBS LM> > and installed it LM> > in the OS/2 Config.sys file and it still doesn't LM> > recognize the drive. LM> > Any suggestions? LM>Three questions. Does the drive itself work under ANY operating system LM>(ie, PC/MS-DOS?) Is the driver you downloaded meant for OS/2 2.1? How LM>did you install it in your config.sys file? LM>The instructions say to make a copy of disk 1 (the second disk, since LM>IBM likes to start their count at zero,) add the device driver to the LM>root directory and edit the config.sys file to add the line LM>"BASEDEV=<drivername>" to the end of the file. Then boot using disk 0 LM>and then disk 1. If it still is not recognized, you need to talk with LM>Creative Labs, since it is obviously not supported by IBM if the file LM>didn't come from them. LM>Larry Already tried IBM and Creative Labs, it seems that no one can answer my question. I download the driver for OS/2 2.1 from the Creative Labs BBS but when installed as the directions specify, it gives a message "OSO0001.MSG file not found" or something to that effect. The CD-ROM works fine in DOS. Tried Panasonic and they are not going to support the drive until March of 1994. --- ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic --- MsgToss 2.0c! (r) * Origin: Intercity RBBS, Richmond VA.(21.6DS) (1:264/152) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NORM HILL Number: 10367 To: JUAN LUIS PASTOR Date: 12/27/93 4:39p Subj: Sb Pro + cd-rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JLP>Hello! JLP>I've just bought a SB PRO and a CD-ROM Sony 31A-03. I know the CD-ROM JLP>can't be controlled by the sound card, but does it exist any adapter to JLP>connect it to the SB connector? JLP>Another thing, can the SB PRO control the Panasonic 562B CD-ROM? JLP> Greetings, JLP> Juan Luis JLP> "El Príncipe de Zamunda" JLP>--- FMail 0.92 JLP> * Origin: ----- THE PRINCE OF ZAMUNDA ----- (2:344/3.27) I am using the SBPro and the 562B right now and it works fine in DOS. (The Panisonic 563 is the drive that Creative Labs puts their name on) --- ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ Press "+" to see another tagline. --- MsgToss 2.0c! (r) * Origin: Intercity RBBS, Richmond VA.(21.6DS) (1:264/152) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEVIN MARTIN Number: 10368 To: BRIAN ECKBLAD Date: 12/27/93 10:49p Subj: OMNI CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * Reply to msg in ALL_NEW On Dec 26 19:02, Brian Eckblad of 1:104/899 wrote: -->> Note: Copied from CDROM by WIMM 1.10 BE> I have a Omni CD-ROM, I can not get it to load the driver MSCDEX "or BE> something like that" When I try to load the driver is says NOT ENOUGH BE> DRIVE LETTERS AVAILABLE. Well I can not get in touch with Creative You need a LASTDRIVE=F statement in your config.sys Kevin --- Msgedsq 2.2e * Origin: The E-LINK bbs [214]-680-8119 (1:124/5146) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS GUILFOYLE Number: 10369 To: KORENE CLARK Date: 12/26/93 9:11p Subj: Re: CD ROM DISK CATALOG Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi there Korene, Thanks for the response as I am anxious in getting as many sources I can for getting catalogs for CD's as I just got mine for use with my board and need to get a good reliable source to get the most current cd's for the board. Thanks for the help. >Tom< --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: Carrier Detect BBS Collingdale, PA 610-586-8705 (1:273/402) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON WAGNER Number: 10370 To: RANDI RELANDER Date: 12/27/93 4:01p Subj: BattleTech Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RR> btw, is there enough interest to break BattleTech into its own RR> conference? *YES* ... Swell-head: Nature's frantic effort to fill a vacuum. --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: The Analog Gate *(16.8kbs HST/DS)* (602) 458-0451 (1:309/9) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON WAGNER Number: 10371 To: ALL Date: 12/27/93 4:05p Subj: CD Format Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello all! I was wondering... new to this realm as I am, I have a few quick questions... Do they make 3" CD-ROM disks? It would seem better to me to put programs (such as games) that don't have 660MB of data on a smaller disk... maybe its impracticle, maybe I'm just dumb.. <G> Also, is there such a thing as LD-ROM (LaserDisc ROM)?!? I remember reading something about it a looong time ago, but haven't heard anything about it since. Laserdiscs? 50GB per disk? <G> Jason ... 2+2=4 (for the time being). --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: The Analog Gate *(16.8kbs HST/DS)* (602) 458-0451 (1:309/9) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON WAGNER Number: 10372 To: ALL Date: 12/27/93 4:30p Subj: Lots 'O Questions! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No First, I just ordered a Mitsumi drive today, and now am reading that its not a SCSI or daisy-chainable drive. Is this right? Then is the controller a simple AT BUS 8 bit card, without the possibility of expanding to more SCSI devices off of it? Also, can the GUS support this drive? I want to buy the Gravis, but I want it to be able to control the drive (I have ONE expansion slot left! <G>) and does it have a high-speed (as in DX2-66) game port? Finally, my last question for all you techies (And I appreciate this!)... I'm probably gonna come off looking like a fool for asking this, but since I'm new to CD-ROM I'll ask it anyways! I am under the impression that CD-ROM main advantage is the fact that EVERYTHING is on the CD... no more pinched hard drive space. Is this true? I have worked with an excyclopedia CD-ROM as school and installed it... it told me that it needed appx 20 MB of space on the HD to run!!! Does every CD need to put something on the HD (I know games might need to put save games and such on...)??! Jason ... Black Adder... Black Adder... --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: The Analog Gate *(16.8kbs HST/DS)* (602) 458-0451 (1:309/9) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM CZACHOR Number: 10373 To: ALL Date: 12/27/93 10:04a Subj: MEGA CD-ROMS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone know how the Mega series of CD's are?? Particularly the Mega CD-ROM3, Windows2, and Games1 package they have for $59. I am looking for some new CD's for my BBS, I have So Much Shareware 1,2,3 and NightOwl 7,8,9 and want something different. Any suggestions are welcome. thanks >>tom<< --- UBBS2.09/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The DataWerks -v.32bis- CD-ROM's 717-343-5004 (1:268/316) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK NAY Number: 10374 To: HENRY PAUL Date: 12/27/93 7:09p Subj: Re: DSP 16,Soundwave 32 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Nope not kidding..It is available..But unfortunately only for the Cardinal and Orchid boards..I have the Cardinal DSP16..If you read the original message you can give Xing Technology a call and order it..It should be available soon at CompUSA and other Computer stores and mailorder.. --- * Origin: Ground Zero 813-849-4034 New Port Richey, FL NEC (1:3619/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAX GREEN Number: 10375 To: TONY WILLIAMS Date: 12/27/93 11:12p Subj: Freeing up space Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TW> Does anyone know of anyway that I can access more upper memory to load TW> some other files so that I have more room in conventional? My cd-rom TW> that I just installed is running its driver in upper memory putting TW> other drivers and other files running in conventional. This causes me TW> to have limited capacity for running programs requiring 512k or more TW> of convetional memory. Any ideas? Sure the easy way is to delete all those TSRs loading low. That is an not acceptable answer I know soooo....try this: First determine what version of operating system you are using. If its of the MS variety type "ver" and enter. If you have a 386xx or greater you can use any of a whole slew of memory managers, QEMM being one of the better ones. Also DOS 6.0 and above have a small memory manager which loads many TSRs into upper memory for you, just type "MEMMAKER" hit enter and follow the onscreen instructions. You should accept the default setting the first time through. --- PPoint 1.72 * Origin: A Professional Point System (1:396/17.13) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAX GREEN Number: 10376 To: BRIAN ECKBLAD Date: 12/27/93 11:12p Subj: OMNI CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BE> I have a Omni CD-ROM, I can not get it to load the driver MSCDEX "or BE> something like that" When I try to load the driver is says NOT ENOUGH BE> DRIVE LETTERS AVAILABLE. Well I can not get in touch with Creative Add a line to your config.sys, which should be on letter greater that the last drive recognized by your system. Assuming that your CD Rom drive is letter "f". That should get you up and running. LASTDRIVE=G --- PPoint 1.72 * Origin: A Professional Point System (1:396/17.13) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICKY BOOTH Number: 10377 To: DAVE ELLISON Date: 12/27/93 5:22p Subj: Virus Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > trying to pass yourself off as some kind of virus expert! Wow, > you have a collection of what, two piddley viruses? Oops, three Well, if he owns a Night Owl CD, he has a very large collection of viruses. :-) --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: KFS Programming -HQ- ...Mail Only... (1:170/359) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: REMY DE.RUYSSCHER Number: 10378 To: 1:157/479 Date: 12/26/93 4:32a Subj: CD ROM LIST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi, I would like a copy a your CD ROM list. Remy de Ruysscher, Kennedylaan 48 3981 GC BUNNIK The Netherlands INTERNET: rderuyss@blackhl.hacktic.nl FIDO NET: 2:512/45.22 Later, Remy --- GoldED 2.41 --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler! A.EINSTEIN (2:512/45.22) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: REMY DE.RUYSSCHER Number: 10379 To: KYLE MACHULIS Date: 12/26/93 4:37a Subj: Re: *~Custom CD-ROMs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hallo Kyle, Answering a msg of <21 Dec 93>, from Kyle Machulis to Jeff Weiss @ 910/528: Can you forward his reply to me? I'm also VERY intrested! Later, Remy --- GoldED 2.41 --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler! A.EINSTEIN (2:512/45.22) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALEX MOTTRAM Number: 10380 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 12/27/93 5:48a Subj: NIGHT OWL 10 VIRUS REPORT Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No +- | No, I don't think so. Last time I watched, Judge Wapner's award limit was | $5000. This baby's more in the $600,000 range! Not just another case of | "The Puppy-Stained Carpet" if you get my meaning. 8) Seeing as how it | could ruin Night Owl's because they cannot hide behind their corporation, | I'd venture to say that everyone involved with it views the case as | EXTREMELY serious. +-[MS=>AM] Sounds like I should be in the programming business (or not). :) I wonder what's worth $600k on night owl's anyway? Not the shell I hope <grin>.. Thanks Again, Alex Mottram ##Mmr 2.46(beta). !link MS 12-24-93 01:07 --- GTMail 1.160 * Origin: The Twilight Phone -- Where else? (1:3803/6.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID WAGNER Number: 10381 To: RICK POLANSKY Date: 12/26/93 11:52p Subj: Dell Sound Blaster CDROMs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi!! I was just wondering if you have any more information on the $99 CD-ROMS... Does it work well for you?... Were did you get it (ie. phone #'s, addresses, etc.)? And lastly I noticed you bought a few other "needed" things... will it take that much more installation other than cords etc... well, thanks for your time bye!! David Wagner --- * Origin: Silver Lake Systems / 206-338-3723 / Everett, WA (1:343/58) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG PIGOTT Number: 10382 To: ALL Date: 12/26/93 12:13a Subj: CDROM \ SOUND KIT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I am going to purchase both a sound card and a CD-Rom drive and am considering a kit. One of my primary concerns is the speed of the drive. I know that the Sound Blaster 16 cards are compatable with the 300 Kbyte transfer drives (Double Speed), and the Pro audio spectrum is compatable with drives with higher transfer rates. Does anyone know of a kit with a double speed drive and transfer rates of 335 Kbyte or higher? If so, what kind of sound card, speakers, and software does it come with. I am also interested in hearing recomendations on which is better, buying a kit or purchasing individual components. ... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: TechAlliance Renton, Wa. 206-277-6052 V.32bis (1:343/133) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BENGT OSTERDAHL Number: 10383 To: GEORGE VAISEY Date: 12/26/93 6:48p Subj: New/Need Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello George! 24 Dec 93 You wrote to All: GV> I am new here. My CD-ROM is less then 1 hour old (install GV> and working). I ahve the windows version of a program to GV> play musical CD's on and was wondering if there was a DOS GV> version or a TSR and where I can get it. Thank you very GV> much! Try to find CD-Player. We found it under the name of CDPLAY34.SDN. It contains both a DOS- and a Windows-version. It also has a database for Your musical CDs. Greetings/Bengt --- GoldED 2.42.A0701+ 12SW1 / Squish / BinkleyTerm * Origin: Bengt's point in Gustavsberg, Sweden (2:201/329.13) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JD BROWN Number: 10384 To: NIGEL BELBIN Date: 12/26/93 3:08p Subj: OS/2 2.1 Beta V 6.479 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CIS: 72027,2432 Internet: JD_Brown@f3622.n1.z1.fidonet.org IBM LINK @ DEV0580 NB> -=> Quoting Dale Elrod to Jason Hyland <=- NB> NB> JH >Beta Version 6.479 - Promoting Development". I'm not sure of NB> JH >the legal NB> JH >position of selling this CD, but I suppose as the actual NB> JH >product has NB> JH >been about for a while, it's not too bad. Not that I'm NB> JH >condoning it. I NB> JH >paid a pittance for it, so I guess I should have realised NB> JH >that I wasn'r NB> JH >beta is so out of date, I don't think I'll bother NB> NB> Why not just sell it for a pittance to someone who wants it .... NB> let me know if you want to get rid of it cheap ... NB> NB> cheers It is a violation of the IBM license agreement for him to sell you this CDROM. It is a violation of copyright law for you to use it. ___ X KWQ/2 1.2a X *Al Gore never met a Spending Bill he didn't vote for. --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: OS/2 Exchange (Home of EGGNET'S EC1, POLICY) (1:3622/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SAM FIGUEROA Number: 10385 To: BOB BREED Date: 12/27/93 9:54p Subj: MOVIE CD REQUEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BB> SF> Hey, BB> SF> Try Microsoft Cinemania, thats supposed to be pretty TOUGH! BB> SF> Sam Figueroa BB> SF> Sam's Software BB> Yeah, but that's based on Leonard Maltin's movie guide. The BB>printed version fails both movie tests -- and really is BB>incomplete on Sakall. (Gotta have something little more complete BB>-- although MS Cinemania is a pretty good product. BB>... It's Ensign Pillsbury, Jim.....he's bread. BB>___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 BB>--- ProBoard v1.31 [EVALUATION] BB> * Origin: Alien Biker Kat BBS (619) 277-4140 (1:202/1010) The one that you are talking about is it like Cinemania in the sense that it has clips of the movies and what not! Do you have any recommendation on which Encyclopedia to buy? I'm in the market and cannot decide whether to get Encarta, Groliers, or Comptons??? Thanks, Sam Figueroa Sam's Software * SLMR 2.1a * Unable to locate BASS -- Operator Halted! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SAM FIGUEROA Number: 10386 To: STEVEN STEPP Date: 12/27/93 10:01p Subj: VIDEO OUTPUT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SS>Help please! I just got a CD ROM and sound card. This was bundled with SS>Microsoft multimedia pack for windows 3.1. The sound is fine but the video SS>stinks. I am running a 25Mhz 386 with 8 megs of memory. SS>There is no math co-processor or special windows ex card. Is ther anything SS>can do to get the video to play correctly? SS>Merry Christmas SS>and thanks for the help SS> Steve SS>--- TBBS v2.1/NM SS> * Origin: The File Bank, Inc. (303) 534-4646 - Files, Files, Files SS>(1:104/899) If your running an SX, well then there is part of the problem! What speed is your CD-Rom and what is the data transfer on it! Those could also hinder the way that video is displayed! Sam Figueroa Let me know something! * SLMR 2.1a * Unable to locate BASS -- Operator Halted! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SAM FIGUEROA Number: 10387 To: TOM MILLER Date: 12/27/93 10:03p Subj: sony double speed cd-rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TM>Greetings All ! TM>I'm having trouble installing my Sony drive I got for Christmas. The TM>drive came with a 5.25" (HiLite Sony CDU 31A Driver Ver. 1.61) I TM>understand I should throw this driver away. It also comes with a 3.5" TM>Sound Galaxy SG NX II V2.31 that has a utility subdirectory on it with a TM>instatcd.exe that has drivers on it, specifically the mscdex.exe which TM>generates a driver "/d:mscd000" that my computer a DTK 50mhz does not TM>recongnize. Can anyone help me out. TM> Thanks TM>-=[Tom Miller]=- TM> * WCE 1.10/2163 * Ignorance is temporary. Stupidity is forever... TM>--- WM v3.00/92-0228 TM> * Origin: Miller's Crossing Slidell, LA. 14.4 (1:390/22.0) I think, but am not sure, Try this on the MSCDEX line /D:mscd001???? I'm not sure! What driver in the config.sys are u using? Sam Figueroa * SLMR 2.1a * Unable to locate BASS -- Operator Halted! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SAM FIGUEROA Number: 10388 To: KEN DUKE Date: 12/27/93 10:06p Subj: Re: MORTAL KOMBAT PC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KD>BK> I got a demo type version from a friend but its not as good as the KD>BK> ones in the stores or the ones that will be coming out by the time KD>BK> you read this. I have seen ads for a new commanche add on KD>BK> disk and it looks cool saw it in electronic game review and cd rom KD>BK> entertainment. talk to you later bye. KD>I've got the real thing.. and the sound, color, graphics is just great.. KD>The chars. are exactly correct with the other game companies.. KD>--- GEcho 1.00 KD> * Origin: Super Systems Sportster 14.4K 615-847-9824 (1:116/7) Where in the world did you find Mortal Kombat for the PC, I have heard many people saying that they have it! Would ya be willing to send me a copy of it! Is it commercial or what? Thanks, Sam Figueroa Sam's Software (615) 728-7383 * SLMR 2.1a * Adult GIF files are meant for testing monitors!!! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SCOTT CATO Number: 10389 To: ALL Date: 12/28/93 11:05p Subj: Rebel Assualt Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I just picked up Rebel Assualt and it is a great game but I'm having a problem with it. I can not get any joysticks to work with it properly. Ihave tried 3 different ones including a quickshot 2 and a gravis pad. Does anyone have a solution to this wierd problem? Scott ... Blue Wave - World Tour - 1993 --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE RINEHART Number: 10390 To: ALL Date: 12/27/93 5:08p Subj: Hitachi's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Model 3600 Drives almost ready to ship out. $130 each Call Joe Rinehart 216-296-9831 --- * Origin: Call v.216.296.9831 for a config.sys dealer near you! (1:157/479) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BAYANI CUSTODIO Number: 10391 To: TONY MATA Date: 12/26/93 6:29p Subj: Cd encyclopedias Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TM>I'm interested in purchasing a CD encyclopedia. Can anyone TM>tell me which the best one is out of Encarta, Grolier's and TM>Compton's. I'm pretty sure that they all have the same I have Compton's and to tell you the truth, I'm less than thrilled with it. I don't think they even have a quarter the data in there I would expect from a good encyclopedia. Haven't tried Encarta or Grolier's. I hear folks talk saying how much better Grolier is to Compton's though. See yah later Bayani ___ X DeLuxe2 1.25 #703sa X VAGABOND'S DREAM in a VOID() --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB (204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BAYANI CUSTODIO Number: 10392 To: JUAN LUIS PASTOR Date: 12/26/93 6:31p Subj: Cd-I Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL>Hello! JL>Can anybody explain me what is CD-I about? It's a different way of saying Multi-media I suppose with different programming and user interface. JL>I've been told I only can read them, but not run them. That is true... CD-I programming is totally different from PC type programming. :) See yah later Bayani ___ X DeLuxe2 1.25 #703sa X VAGABOND'S DREAM in a VOID() --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB (204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD KURTH Number: 10393 To: ALL Date: 12/27/93 7:22p Subj: CD with VB Win SOURCE CO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I'm looking for CD that have Visual Basic Source Code on them can anybody help me. Richard Kurth --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: Vegas PlayGround! * Las Vegas, NV * 702-386-7979 * (1:209/276) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LANE WEISS Number: 10394 To: ALL Date: 12/27/93 1:02p Subj: Police Quest Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Anyone know when Police Quest IV for CD-ROM is coming out?? Lane Weiss --- WM v2.09/92-0742 * Origin: The Synthesis BBS * Old Bridge, NJ * (908)360-9462 (1:107/63 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DICK CRAVENS Number: 10395 To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 12/26/93 9:39a Subj: PATENT ON MULTIMEDIA? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Indeed. --- FLAME v1.0/b * Origin: (1:289/34) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DICK CRAVENS Number: 10396 To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 12/26/93 9:40a Subj: CD ROM INFO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DC> Platform chauvinism is a DRAG. Windows has its problems, but it has come a long way and has a lot to offer. I'll stand by this statement. More below. LR>You mean like 1/10,000th the performance of a text based LR>interface? No matter *WHAT*, whenever a GUI is in use, every active LR>pixel *MUST* be calculated. That can take upwards of 10 million LR>calculations, just to write a single screen. I can do a TREMENDOUS LR>amount of work with 10,000,000 calculations. Compare that with a LR>text screen, which can take less than 5000 calculations. Of course you can. That's not the point of a GUI. For that matter, we can make the machine incredibly efficient if we eliminate the console I/O altogether, but then WHAT USE WOULD IT BE? Other than to a fluent programmer, of course. If you actually believe that everyone else in the world thinks, works and learns as you do, then dream on, but the reality is that a LARGE percentage of people need a GUI to be productive with a computer quickly. IBM, Xerox, Microsoft and Apple have done a lot of research to back this up. LR> DC> Multitasking GUIs are proven, and LR>Multitasking has *NOTHING* to do with the GUI. Why people LR>think that it does is far beyond me. Multitasking has been around LR>over 30 years, often running on machines that did not even have a LR>CRT, but used printing terminals. LR>Actually, with the price of machines, using multiple machines LR>can be more cost and time effective, as well as being much more LR>robust, but multitasking is definitely handy. However, multitasking LR>has nothing to do with any GUI. The GUI is just a user interface, LR>which is a fancy name for a command interpreter. I didn't say multitasking is tied to the interface; I'm well aware of the history of operating systems. It's not realistic for individuals or companies to purchase multiple machines for multiple tasks, at any price, when applications must share information for local processing, or the user must change from one task to the other quickly (by quickly I mean instantaneously, without having to move physically to another machine). Your attitude reminds me of the MIS administrator at my place of work. He came on board from the Air Force, a twenty year veteran, looking for his first private sector job during his early retirement. Nice guy, but a little "rusty" where PC technology was concerned. I was involved in a project to design the specifications for the standard network workstation for our technical support department phone support technicians. I wanted to make sure we provided the computing system that the techs really need to DO THEIR WORK. Having been a techie myself, I was very familiar with the work. As we publish communications software, one of our prime design goals for each workstation was the ability of the PC to run multiple sessions of our software in local loopback for product testing one one machine. This technique was already in use by some of the more adventurous techs (at their own expense of the additional serial ports), and was proven, but the department management thought it more "productive" to supply complete test machines, located at the end of the department, and require the tech to put the customer on hold, get up, walk several yards, wait in line, test the scenario or data, and then go back to a seething customer. You would not believe the howls that went up in MIS when I suggested purchasing additional ports for each workstation in the department. The objection was not primarily the expense, but that "it wouldn't work." It took six months to get the techs the ports they need, and today the test machines gather dust, and the customers wait much less for their answers. BTW, Microsoft Windows was the ONLY PC environment on the market at that time that allowed us to solve that set of problems (COM loopback with full dual session display, simultaneous access to customer and technical databases, simple integration of real-time email and other applications). I experienced the same logic when I suggested that Windows might perform better with 8MB RAM vs. 4MB. Once the departmental supervisors had evidence of the true performance gain (I demonstrated that Windows was inherently more STABLE with more RAM, preventing machine lockups, saving technician and customer TIME), there was no objection regarding the expense. MIS howled, then recanted. Today there's no support machine with less than 8MB, and many with 16MB. So in our business, we are more productive with a single machine multitasking, and a GUI is the best answer for us. I'm very sure it's not the answer for hundreds of thousands of our customers, but for the other few hundred thousand it is, and we have to know both. BTW, even if it were economically feasible to have separate machines, and technically desirable, we don't have room in our cubes!! (Continued next message...) --- ■ CmpQwk #UNREG■ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- FLAME v1.0/b * Origin: (1:289/34) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM SCHOOLER Number: 10397 To: TONY MATA Date: 12/27/93 12:18a Subj: Cd encyclopedias Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TM> I'm interested in purchasing a CD encyclopedia. Can anyone tell TM> me which the best one is out of Encarta, Grolier's and Compton's. TM> I'm pretty sure that they all have the same depth of info (though TM> I could be wrong) so I guess whichever one has the most TM> impressive bells and whistles would be the one for me. Thanks. I've owned all three Tony, and currently own the two latest editions of Grolier's and Encarta. My advice is to forget Comptons. As for the other two, both have strong points. If you want the ultimate multi-media experience, then buy Encarta. Grolier's is generally more accurate, and it's articles are a little more thorough, but I'd really be hard pressed to say which one I prefer. For pure reasearch, and a tight budget, I'd pick Grolier's though. It only squats on about 880k of HD space, while Encarta takes up to 8 megs. You won't be dissapointed with either. Good luck. --- Sqed/32 0.87/r15033 * Origin: You Are What You Is (1:3803/1.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DONNA MC LAUGHLIN Number: 10398 To: STEAN SNYMAN Date: 12/26/93 11:46p Subj: Re: T7G Maze Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Stean: *** Quoting Stean Snyman to All about T7G Maze *** SS> Hello All! SS> SS> Please don't tell me I need to figure out that MAZE in t7g?.. Isn't there SS> easier way?.. (I HATE mazes, and I don't classify them as puzzles :)) I hate to be the one to break it to you, but you do have to complete the maze. SS> I recently did all the puzzles I could without doing the maze, and it gave SS> access to some more rooms, and I tried my hand at the card flipping puzzle. SS> Didn't finish it though, but saved my game.. Next time I went and wala, I SS> didn't have access to the card-flipping room any more :(.. Is there SS> something I'm missing?.. (I already revisited all the rooms, and I can't g SS> in anywhere else than to the grate/maze thingy...) The maze isn't as hard as it seems. In the room with the bishop puzzle, there is a rug on the floor. When you look at the rug, you will notice that it is the map to the maze. I took a clear stencil and traced the rug, so that when I went into the maze, I sort of knew where I was. One hint though, concentrate on completing the right side of the maze only. That's where you'll find the exit. Let me know how you make out. Donna --- Renegade v07-17 Beta * Origin: Pandora's BBS - Phila. Net273 NEC *215-739-9508* (1:273/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANDREW NELSON Number: 10399 To: ALL Date: 12/27/93 2:41p Subj: philips cd-rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does any one own a philips cm206, an Ultrasound, AND have Rebel Assault. (I know it's a long shot). if you do, please tell me how your sound works,thnaks --- Maximus 2.00 * Origin: Burst Mode (1:163/528) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN ECKBLAD Number: 10400 To: ALL Date: 12/26/93 7:02p Subj: OMNI CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have a Omni CD-ROM, I can not get it to load the driver MSCDEX "or something like that" When I try to load the driver is says NOT ENOUGH DRIVE LETTERS AVAILABLE. Well I can not get in touch with Creative Labs Tech Support and their BBS does not answer. I have my HDD sectioned in three parts C: D: and E: I am trying to get the CD ROM to be Drive F:. I have set up MSCDEX like this MSCDEK "PATH" /d:MSCD001 /L:f etc I ahve tried many different combinations. It is driving me nuts. I have a SBPRO card and the CD is hooked to it. I think it is installed properly because SBCD.sys reconizes it during boot up. Well HELP! HELP! Thanks Brian Eckblad --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: The File Bank, Inc. (303) 534-4646 - Files, Files, Files (1:104/899) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE Number: 10401 To: MIKE MAZZOLA Date: 12/25/93 10:59p Subj: Re: Panasonic 562/AT Bus interface card Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Mike Mazzola@1:387/307 meinte am 21.12.93 zum Thema "Panasonic 562/AT Bus interface card": MM>I'm having a problem with what I believe to be a Panasonic 562/563b CD MM>drive unit I just recieved From Multimedia in San Francisco. I ordered the MM>bare drive and AT bus interface card. After installing the drivers I get: MM>'Warning No SCSI Host adaptors detected' and 'No TSLCD functions in use MM>Driver aborting.' Although the drive is suppose to be Panasonic the logo MM>on the tray reads CREATIVE SB{Sound Blaster} with nothing idenifing it as a MM>562 or Panasonic. The manual says CR-563-B but the only information(?) on MM>the Drive reads MATSUSHITA-KOTOBUKI ELECTRONICS INDUSTRIES LTD. Made in MM>Japan LMQLS0420. If the problem is the AT bus card, is there some utility MM>that will ID the Drive and verify the model? Thanks for any information or I think the CD ROM you have needs a SBPRO or a SB16 as the Controller You can't use it with at normal I/O AT-BUT Controller Card ! Bye Chris --- CrossPoint v2.92 * Origin: How is my writing : Call 1-800-EAT-SHIT (2:242/401.10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE Number: 10402 To: HEATHER KRAUSE Date: 12/25/93 11:02p Subj: Re: Cinemania Problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Heather Krause@1:280/333 meinte am 21.12.93 zum Thema "Cinemania Problems": HK>EC>Is anyone else having problems with MS Cinemania? I have a Tseng 4000 HK>EC>video card and have been told that the reson I keep getting a General HK>EC>Protection fault is due to a VGA driver my card uses. HK> HK> I don't know about this particular card and setup, but do you HK> have it set for a 256 color driver? Why don't go all the way with 16,7 Million Colours the Graphic sure looks empressive then, even though it is a little slower Bye Chris --- CrossPoint v2.92 * Origin: How is my writing : Call 1-800-EAT-SHIT (2:242/401.10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE Number: 10403 To: ALLE Date: 12/25/93 11:12p Subj: How is : Return to Zork ? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hallo Leute ! Can anyone fill me in , how goot Return to Zork really is ? Is it worth the money ? How difficult is it ? How are the gaphics , the sound, etc ,etc,..... Bye Chris --- CrossPoint v2.92 * Origin: How is my writing : Call 1-800-EAT-SHIT (2:242/401.10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE Number: 10404 To: ALLE Date: 12/25/93 11:13p Subj: Looking for Movie Database CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hallo Leute ! Are their any other CD's besides The Microsoft Cinemania 1994 which can be recommended regarding Movies ? Are there other CD's ? thanx in advance... Bye Chris --- CrossPoint v2.92 * Origin: How is my writing : Call 1-800-EAT-SHIT (2:242/401.10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY THOMSON Number: 10405 To: SCOTT REDMAN Date: 12/27/93 6:27p Subj: 6 DISK CHANGERS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Quoting Scott Redman to Jerry Thomson dated 12-25-93 *** > I have a DRM-600A, and am most pleased with it. I beleive there are 3 > different models of the Pioneer changer. The DRM-600A is a 800mS, > dis-continued. Still, you should be able to find one for < $700. Great > drive for a BBS! Then, there's the DRM-604X - 250mS/600K Sec/XFER Rate! > That's right! 600k SEC! That's quadruple-spin. It is alo a 6 disc > changer, and you can find one for about $1,200. Then, there's the > grandaddy of them all - The DRM-1804X. It is an 18-disc changer, > quadruple spin with the same specs as the 604X. MSRP is approx $3K! I just found a place that will sell me the DMR-600A for $741 which includes everthing including the card, cables and case. Ready to hook right up. Does that sound like an ok price? --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Twin Star HST/DS Node 1 (810)979-6139 (1:2202/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY THOMSON Number: 10406 To: ALL Date: 12/27/93 7:26p Subj: 8088 CD-ROM I/0 CARD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have an extra XT8088 computer that I only use for extra hard drive space on my BBS. I run my board off of 3 computers. My question is: Can one put a CD-ROM and card in an XT computer? Does anyone make an I/O card that will work and if the XT is only 10mhz, would it be good for just storage space? I just ordered a 6 disk changer for my 386 33MHZ, but just wondered if I could put it in the XT instead.. Jerry --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Twin Star HST/DS Node 1 (810)979-6139 (1:2202/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS WARDMAN Number: 10407 To: CARL REEK Date: 12/27/93 5:59p Subj: Mitsumi/Windows NT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Re: Mitsumi/Windows NT > My company selected 12 people (including me) for an advanced training > program in Windows NT, Lan Man, and other Microsoft University courses. > Currently preparing for the certification test. I like Windows NT and > its networking features. A little overkill for a standalone system. > Looking forward to the release of Win 4.0. Don't have an axe to grind > for either Windows or OS/2. Just a consultant who works with whichever > tool is available. 'Have computer...will travel.' As with the upgrade > of any software, some types of hardware are left in the dust. Would > like to use the current CDRom drive before newer software forces an > upgrade. Thanks for the reply. > --- WM v3.10/92-0004 > * Origin: The Computer Room-Pickerington, Oh (614)861-8377 (1:226/110) Sounds Good To Me. I've heard all sorts of nasty things about NT. How does it run from your perspective? I say as long as it get's the job done, it's the right system for you. TTYL... .\\Tom~~ --- VFIDO 6.10.05 * Origin: Just Another BBS (1:358/20) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEAN SNYMAN Number: 10408 To: KEE CHI Date: 12/25/93 7:54a Subj: Return to zork cd 4 sale Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Kee! 20 Dec 93 22:26, Kee Chi wrote to Stean Snyman: KC> Thanks a lot, you have helped a lot! No Prob... Adios Stean --- Gotcha v1.01 RT * Origin: Where Keyboards Cry, The Electro, CT, RSA (5:7102/114) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEAN SNYMAN Number: 10409 To: ALL Date: 12/27/93 12:12a Subj: t7G help needed (Again :)) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! Now i'm stuck at the puzzle with the blocks that falls down (Its as easy as one two three).. (See if you can get from a to b, by using only what you see, Or whatever)... I can't go back to get a hint (The door is nailed shut), and I can't seem to grasp the idea after it... (PLEASE don't tell me how to do everything, else the challenge is lost :)) Thanks Stean --- Gotcha v1.01 RT * Origin: Where Keyboards Cry, The Electro, CT, RSA (5:7102/114) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: VINCE SORENSEN Number: 10410 To: HUGH CRAIG Date: 12/27/93 9:56a Subj: Good Shareware Cds Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> looks. This is slow as well though. Doing a page down to view -> the next screen full of files requires up to a 5 second delay while Hi Hugh! 5 seconds!?! There's definitely something wrong. I did the same page down, on a 386SX-20, running DesqView (3 tasks, in use), with NO disk caching (i.e. SmartDrive), and it took 0.57 seconds. What are you running (i.e. hardware)??? Vince --- The Mail Box [NR] * Origin: SUPERBOARD/CD-ROM WHOLESALERS (306)789-8682 (1:140/121) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL MOORE @ 903/5 Number: 10411 To: ALL Date: 12/27/93 9:25p Subj: Games for sale Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The following games are for sale or trade. All come with original box, documentation, and disks, unless otherwise noted. Prices do no include shipping. I am especially interested in trading for CD-ROM titles, but all offers will be considered. Games: Ultima Underworld II -- $30 Goblins 2 -- $20 obo The Prophesy -- $20 obo Legend of Kyrandia -- $22 obo Ulitma VII + Forge of Virtue -- $28 (pending) Greens (vga golf) -- $20 obo Loom (CD-ROM, no box) -- $20 The 7th Guest (CD-ROM) -- SOLD If you're interested in anything, leave e-mail. I usually try to check it every day. CmpQwk #UNREG UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- OverMail v0.82b # Origin: The Cavern of Cyborg (USR Dual 16.8) Albuquerque, NM (505) 268-1669 (8:903/5) * Origin: Gateway System to/from RBBS-NET (RBBS-PC 1:10/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 10412 To: ALL Date: 12/27/93 10:00a Subj: Phony Santa? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No All - Just a word of warning..... 19 Dec 93, Santa writes to All: SC> HO.. HO.. HO.. MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL SC> Origin: North Pole (9:999/999.9) We're not sure who posted this, but it was NOT THE REAL SANTA CLAUS! Close examination of the tagline reveals that it was posted from a POINT, not Santa's node. We spoke to Henrietta (Mrs. Claus) who said: "That man spends altogether too much time in front of that blasted box. While he's reading his Email, he makes the smallest elves clean up after the reindeer! It may have been one of them!" While it was indeed a harmless prank, we wish to stress that posting a Christmas wish list to Santa in this echo will probably be to no avail. --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Politically Correct BBS (1:141/950.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACK WIGGINS Number: 10413 To: ALL Date: 12/27/93 1:50a Subj: BATTLECHESS NEEDS SVGA? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone know offhand if the Battlechess on CD-ROM needs a SVGA or will it work on plain vanilla VGA? I was all set to get it and found out it 'may' need SVGA which I don't have. To keep this on topic, <grin> if it does support vga, does anyone have it for sale, new or used? --- TMail v1.31.1 * Origin: Treasure Chest ML-TBBS - South Bend, IN (219) 234-8004 (1:227/3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM KLAN Number: 10414 To: HOWARD RICE Date: 12/26/93 7:53a Subj: Mitshumi Dual & sound Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No HR>What is the best sound card to use with a Mitsumi Dual speed? >Aztec's Pro16 does not support the dual speed and they claim they do >not intend to. No, their Pro16 card WILL run it but not at double speed (due to mitsumi's proprietary 16bit dma transfer). they will be making an updated card shipping in april (supposedly), but anyone who has their existing card is out of luck. SoundBlaster 16ASP/Multi cd will run the mitsumi fx001d, but you'd better be sitting down when you ask someone the price --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: Tim's BBS * Erie, PA * 814-825-1731 * (1:2601/566) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SCOTT REDMAN Number: 10415 To: JERRY THOMSON Date: 12/28/93 8:25p Subj: 6 DISK CHANGERS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jerry! JT| I just found a place that will sell me the DMR-600A for $741 which in JT| everthing including the card, cables and case. Ready to hook right up. JT| that sound like an ok price? Sounds like a great price Jerry. About the cheapest I have seen for a 600a is $729, and that's just the bare drive. If you're ready to take the plunge, I'd dive in if I were you! <G>...BTW, where is this place...come on and share the info! *** Scott *** * WCE 1.10/2236 * ... DOS never says "EXCELLENT command or filename"... --- WM v3.10/93-0144 * Origin: Grace Under Pressure-Orlando, FL 407-657-8801 (1:363/194) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES SUMMERS Number: 10416 To: ALL Date: 12/28/93 2:43p Subj: Loom CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello- Do any of you out here play the game Loom on Cd? I was very impressed with this game and like it very much. I have a few questions though, I have bbecome stuck and do not know what to do. If you are experienced at this game please write me. I am stuck in the iron makers guild watching the man hammer away at the sword. I have listened to the coversation, I have no idea what to do. Could it be something with the stick baskket up stairs? James Summers --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: London - now game/adventure! - 407.895.1335 (1:363/69) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 10417 To: HUGH CRAIG Date: 12/28/93 1:29a Subj: Good Shareware Cds Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hugh Craig wrote in a message to Vince Sorensen: [speaking of cd interface programs] HC> Off the hardrive. As usual with most of the CD's I've seen. Check out my disc Cream of the Crop II .... the interface runs directly on the cd. HC> This one allows you to stick it's main exe on the Hd and HC> the Database if you so desire, 4 megs or so installed. Like I said... on the cd. HC> I did this and it was almost as slow. Very pathetic. HC> Useless as a search tool. I mean MINUTES go by looking for HC> one lousy word in their equivalant of the FILES.BBS, or just HC> for a filename. Although mine isn't as fancy in appearance and extra features it does something "they" don't... it loads in your memory and is nearly instant in searching for key words and even FASTER when searching for a file name. HC> THe tool is only bearable using it to browse each individual HC> directory. At least one gets the description for each file HC> as one looks. This is slow as well though. Doing a page down HC> to view the next screen full of files requires up to a 5 HC> second delay while the program gathers the info for the next HC> view. When it is loaded into memory page up, down, end and home is instant! HC> Wasting 4 MEGABYTES of my hardrive space for a useless HC> database was not worth it. So I just run the program with a HC> minimal install and suffer with and even slower CD Database. You'll appreciate Cream of the Crop's way of avoiding ANY wasted disc space AND the speed it runs. HC> I don't know what others are doing right with their search HC> engines, this one is not 'Right'. Send your address and I'll send you the "engine" I wrote on a floppy disk and you can see another example. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 10418 To: BRYAN ANSLOW Date: 12/28/93 1:44a Subj: Windows and PC's Cr*p Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Bryan Anslow wrote in a message to All: BA> having been in the MainFrame business for some 20 years, for BA> the last 18 months I have entered the world of PC's, ...much deleted BA> What do the rest of you think? BA> For those of you who may be interested, I run a 386/33DX ...more deleted BA> 340). Software is DOS 5 and Windows 3.1. There is your problem... ^^^^^^^ dump Windows and run under Desqview if you must multitask. The purpose of Windows is to make your computer look like a Macintosh. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY NOLES Number: 10419 To: JACK WIGGINS Date: 12/26/93 11:22p Subj: BATTLECHESS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JW>I'm sure that I saw (at one time before I had a CD) Battlechess on a CD-RO JW>disk version. Unfortunately, I can't find it new or used now. Does anyon JW>know if this sadistically bloody version of chess was ever released on CD Saw it today at Software Etc. in Huntsville, AL. You might ask a clerk at a local software store to order it for you! Or if all else fails, I might be persuaded to pick it up and send it to you! Yell at me netmail if you want to try it that way! Fido - 1:3607/5 Internet - eobytes!gnoles@vulcan.com Gary ... He who lives by the sword eats with bloody hands. * Noles * --- WM v3.10/93-0102 * Origin: The Dateline BBS (205) 747-4194 (1:3607/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JULIEN PIERRE Number: 10420 To: KEVIN BRUNER Date: 12/27/93 12:46p Subj: Rebel Assault Patch FREQ Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Dec 23 11:07, Kevin Bruner of 1:3608/25 wrote: KB> Hi there... KB> Does anyone know of a BBS that has the Rebel Assault patch? KB> I'd like to FREQ it so I don't have to spend a ton o' cash KB> downloading it. Thanks for any help you can offer. It's available as REBFIX.ZIP from 2:320/215 or 2:320/217. But this patch doesn't solve many problems for me ... It's about 200K, you can try it anyway. Julien --- msgedsq/2 2.2b * Origin: ChaOS/2 BBS near Paris, France - +33-1-30472762 (2:320/215) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KENNY SCOTT Number: 10421 To: JOE RINEHART Date: 12/28/93 7:46p Subj: Re: Hitachi's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JR> Model 3600 Drives almost ready to ship out. $130 each JR> Call Joe Rinehart 216-296-9831 Could you give me some info on this Drive? Spin - Single, Double, what? Seek time? KB Transfer Rate? card to connect w/computer? etc. Thanks! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: The Light-Quest BBS - Fun for EVERYONE! (1:381/116) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEAN SNYMAN Number: 10422 To: RICK NAY Date: 12/27/93 9:20a Subj: 7th guest 100% Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Rick! 19 Dec 93 00:00, Rick Nay wrote to Stean Snyman: RN> PID: CNet XFIDO 2.63 Well I was using a program called fastbios RN> which copies all bios calls into memory..but i do that now..and RN> not only that but people with the trident board are getting RN> 42%..and the et-4000 is 3 times faster under dos than the RN> trident..42% just seems to be what everyone is getting whether on RN> a 486 or 386..and faster cpu's do increase video performance..I RN> just think that the program is a joke.. -+- Not really.. The speed greatly depends on your Video cards MAXIMUM throughput, AND (I think so, but don't qoute me on it). How much data your CD can transfer. if it benchmarks by CD 2 kb higher, I get about 2% higher video performance, same backwards.. Adios Stean --- Gotcha v1.01 RT * Origin: Where Keyboards Cry, The Electro, CT, RSA (5:7102/114) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEAN SNYMAN Number: 10423 To: DAVE WONG Date: 12/27/93 9:25a Subj: Return to zork cd 4 sale Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dave! 21 Dec 93 16:53, Dave Wong wrote to Stean Snyman: DW> Say Sean, are you finished with RTZ yet? I'm on my last leg and DW> can't get past the Citital Bridge, have dumped all inventory but DW> still don't work, i know have 211 points, 19 more to go, if you DW> can help, please reply other wise maybe i can help you. Nope.. Sorry.. Maby you can help me.. I'm stuck in East zanzibar.. I've got the sword, playd survivors (watched the corny video in the hotel :)) stole rebeccas house empty, got knocked out.. Went down the cliffs, bonding plant almost died. (What do you do at the bottom in the comedy club?).. I met pugney at his farm, he gave me the box, I have the hay from the cow-shed.. Rebecca told me about the book she is writing.. What do I do with the fairy/bowman in the forest, and what do I do in the whispering woods (I get blind).. I like playing with the incinerator :) (sp?)... Oh yea, got the sword cleaned up as well... Do I need to break into the shop to get something?.. Adios Stean --- Gotcha v1.01 RT * Origin: Where Keyboards Cry, The Electro, CT, RSA (5:7102/114) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEAN SNYMAN Number: 10424 To: JOHN ULLMER Date: 12/27/93 9:31a Subj: 7th Guest with Sony Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! 22 Dec 93 15:20, John Ullmer wrote to Daniel Prince: JU> And if you think getting "7th G" to run is a lotta fun, then try JU> "Return to Zork which wants 600K of free CONVENTIONAL RAM. It does?.. I have 634k conventional ram in mine .. FREE :)... Ever heard of High memory?.. Adios Stean --- Gotcha v1.01 RT * Origin: Where Keyboards Cry, The Electro, CT, RSA (5:7102/114) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WESLEY CHEW Number: 10425 To: ALL Date: 12/28/93 2:44p Subj: FUSION16 FOR SALE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Msg#: 1031 *CDROM_SALE* 12-24-93 03:00:18 From: WESLEY CHEW To: ALL Subj: MEDIAVISION FUSION16 MediaVision Fusion16 MPC Upgrade Kit for Sale """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" The following items are bundle with the upgrade kit :- 1. Sony CD-31A (Kodak CD compatible, built in tray). 2. MediaVision Pro-Audio 16 sound board. Used only for 1.5 months. With original (unmailed) warranty card. I will bundle with the following CD-ROM :- 1. Campton's Interactive Encyclopedia (MPC Microsoft Window 3.1 version) 2. Deep River's Adventure (Microsoft Window 3.1 compatible) 3. Interplay's Battle Chess (MPC Window 3.1 compatible) 4. Virgin's 7th Guest (DOS version) The price? Very nice! $298 (software alone cost more than $250!) Anyone want to swap my Corel Draw 3.0 ? I can be contacted at Phone : (405) 359-1259 Internet : wesley.chew@oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu Wes --- ■ SLMR 2.0 ■ Hello, I am part number │║▐║│║│█│║▌│║▌││ --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: The SANDBOX ** MultiLine TBBS ** (405)737-9540 (1:147/34) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC ENGELMANN Number: 10426 To: ALL Date: 12/18/93 7:05p Subj: Assembler Shareware CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the 7th edition of its Assembler CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants extensive databases and search programs to help them find exactly the products they need FAST. The December 1993 CD-ROM has 431 products and the best directory database and search program in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of the 137,000 record PC products database. Voice:+1(301)924-3594, Fax:+1(301)963-2708. --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: Infinite Perspectives (1:109/519) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC ENGELMANN Number: 10427 To: ALL Date: 12/21/93 1:47p Subj: TurboPascal CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the 7th edition of its TurboPascal CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants extensive databases and search programs to help them find exactly the products they need FAST. The December 1993 CD-ROM has 791 products and the best directory database and search program in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of the 137,000 record PC products database. Voice:+1(301)924-3594, Fax:+1(301)963-2708. --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: Infinite Perspectives (1:109/519) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC ENGELMANN Number: 10428 To: ALL Date: 12/22/93 10:39p Subj: Computer Select, SOS, Prompt Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I've got some old copies of computer Select, SOS, and Lotus Prompt for sale or trade. Call voice:+1(301)924-3594. Also obsolete (two months old) copies of EMS Professional Shareware CD-ROMs (for ASM, VBasic, Netware, TPascal, C/C++, Xbase, etc. technical topics). --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: Infinite Perspectives (1:109/519) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC ENGELMANN Number: 10429 To: ALL Date: 12/26/93 3:07p Subj: Paradox Shareware CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the 7th edition of its Paradox CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants extensive databases and search programs to help them find exactly the products they need FAST. The December 1993 CD-ROM has 620 products and the best directory database and search program in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of the 137,000 record PC products database. Voice:+1(301)924-3594, Fax:+1(301)963-2708. --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: Infinite Perspectives (1:109/519) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VAISEY Number: 10430 To: BENGT OSTERDAHL Date: 12/28/93 9:52p Subj: New/Need Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Try to find CD-Player. We found it under the name of CDPLAY34.SDN. > It contains both a DOS- and a Windows-version. It also has a database > for Your > musical CDs. Do you know where I can get it? Thanks. --- GEcho/786 1.01+ * Origin: LakeShore Lmtd. (Rochester, NY * USA) (1:2613/353) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID BATTAGLIA Number: 10431 To: ALL Date: 12/27/93 10:36a Subj: Netware 2.15 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I am running an older Novell Network. The version is 2.15 Advanced. Is there any way through resources or whatever to install a CD-Rom on the file server? If not, would it be wise to switch to a different software? Say, Netware Lite, or Lantastic? The file server is a 286 Compaq Deskpro. (Soon to be upgraded, hopefully) So, I'm restricted to 286 code. No 386 dependant code, or I'd be running Netware 386 or something. Any help appreciated. Thanks, Dave --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: The G)et A G)rip - GAG BBS (717)346-6496 Scranton (1:268/326) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK SKIKUS Number: 10432 To: HUGH CRAIG Date: 12/28/93 7:26p Subj: Re: Rebel Assault Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Well I have not seen that problem yet I guess Ill see what happens when I install another 4megs, And see if that helps any --- CNet XFIDO 2.63 * Origin: Powerstation BBS* Grand Prairie,Tx. 214-606-0327 (1:124/6302) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK SKIKUS Number: 10433 To: KEVIN BRUNER Date: 12/28/93 7:35p Subj: Re: Rebel Assault Patch FREQ Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No wELL i HAVE TRYED TO CONNECT TO THERE BOARD AND i HAVE HAD NO LUCK! JUST ANT ABLE TO GET A GOOD CONNECTION.. --- CNet XFIDO 2.63 * Origin: Powerstation BBS* Grand Prairie,Tx. 214-606-0327 (1:124/6302) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAY SHILSTONE Number: 10434 To: TOM CZACHOR Date: 12/28/93 1:36p Subj: MEGA CD-ROMS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TC>Does anyone know how the Mega series of CD's are?? I have several of the older Mega titles and have been reasonably pleased. I like their interface program. Don't have any stats on dupes with other CDs but they are cheap enough. Contact Profit Press directly or check out their ad in Boardwatch for cheaper prices. Jay Shilstone --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: Lunatic Fringe * Richardson,TX * 214-235-5288 * (1:124/2113) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAUL MERKIN Number: 10435 To: JOE RINEHEART Date: 12/26/93 11:38a Subj: Re: 1100+ cd's catalog Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I would like a catalog as well... 4426 Somerville Dallas, Texas 75206 Paul Merkin --- CNet XFIDO 2.63 * Origin: Powerstation BBS* Grand Prairie,Tx. 214-606-0327 (1:124/6302) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 10436 To: CHAD REID Date: 12/27/93 3:40p Subj: NIGHT OWL 10 VIRUS REPORT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CR>MS>This latest lawsuit was filed by their former programmer, who is claiming CR>MS>damages as result of non-payment. CR>How many times has Night Owl been sued? I don't know the exact number, so I won't comment. .\\ike * SLMR 2.1a * Perot of Borg: Resistance? Now that's just sad. --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 10437 To: HERMAN WIGGINS Date: 12/27/93 3:40p Subj: Monster Media Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No HW>Has anyone ever heard of a BBS ready Cd-rom called Monster Media..if so HW>I would like to get a copy of it...I am using Wildcat BBS therefore it Herman, We have it in stock for $25. Has FILES.BBS. Sorry though, no COD's for you. Later, .\\ike STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5 * SLMR 2.1a * I can't steer without my beer. --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 10438 To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 12/27/93 3:40p Subj: CD ROM DISK CATALOG Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DC> TG> looking for shareware CD's but mostly R-Rated and DC> TG> X-Rated ones. Does anyone have any suggestions of DC>Goosebump Graphics has the most extensive line of adult CDROMs, although thei DC>prices are very high. Mike Shannon has less titles in the adult line, but mu DC>better prices on the adult titles.....we can offer you the best prices around DC>on regular shareware titles.... Thanks for the plug Doug, but like you, we are out of the "XXX" arena altogether. Only R-rated softies in stock now. Merry Christmas to you and yours, .\\ike * SLMR 2.1a * My computer's down. Can someone send it flowers? --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 10439 To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR Date: 12/27/93 3:40p Subj: Night Owl 10 Virus Re Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GMJ>I think there's been a lot of unjustified "Night Owl Bashing" lately. To all GMJ>you bashers out there, instead of narrowing your attention span to *2* files GMJ>take a deep breath and look at the other five-thousand-plus files in the CD GMJ>some of them are real excellent. On the whole, we're not complaining about *2* virus-infected files. What is bothersome is that these types of problems are a recurring theme with Night Owl's products. Almost every single shareware CD they've released has contained either viruses (yes, not only NO10), commercial applications, copyrighted GIF's, or something along those lines. After dealing with this situation for years with no sign of improvement, many dealers have rightfully grown frustrated, and switched to other lines like Pier, Cream of the Crop, Software Vault, Powerbox, Shareware Studio, or others that are equal or better in overall quality, and have {somehow} managed to keep their track records clean. GMJ>...Plus, the Butterfly (CRUSADES strain) virus isn't all that dangerous GMJ>anyway. Very fortunate for Night Owl's sake I would say. It could have easily been a more destructive strain that may have exposed them to a whole new series of lawsuits. .\\ike * SLMR 2.1a * Picard and Riker in '96! --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 10440 To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 12/27/93 3:40p Subj: NIGHT OWL 10 VIRUS REPORT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BF>>Word is that the six-figure damage settlement against BF>>them from their latest court battle will sink them. BF> Some folks made the same claim about Playboy's suite against Event BF>Horizons.... I would venture to surmize that Event Horizon's resources are/were probably more extensive than Night Owl's, which is *basically* just a husband/wife operation. Like I said, time will tell......... .\\ike * SLMR 2.1a * Tagline thievery . . . On the next Sally! --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 10441 To: ALL Date: 12/27/93 3:40p Subj: NEWEST SHAREWARE CD! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No | Title: CD POWERBOX 2 Price: $29 | 1. CD Powerbox 2 + CD Powerbox 1.01 (no dupes!)........................$35 2. CD Powerbox 2 + CD Winbox 1.01......................................$45 3. CD Powerbox 2 + OS/2Box.............................................$45 SUPER SPECIAL: ALL FOUR DISCS (Powerbox 1 & 2, OS/2Box, and Winbox)....$55 600+mb of only 1993 files! Features Universal Graphic User Interface! STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs. 509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!) * SLMR 2.1a * ... He who hesitates is frost. - Eskimo proverb --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE KRAISLER Number: 10442 To: BOB BREED Date: 12/28/93 9:01a Subj: Movie Cd Request Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BB> Yeah, but that's based on Leonard Maltin's movie guide. The BB>printed version fails both movie tests -- and really is BB>incomplete on Sakall. (Gotta have something little more complete BB>-- although MS Cinemania is a pretty good product. BB>... It's Ensign Pillsbury, Jim.....he's bread. BB>___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 BB>--- ProBoard v1.31 [EVALUATION] BB> * Origin: Alien Biker Kat BBS (619) 277-4140 (1:202/1010) I'm also looking for the "best" movie guide. When you have finished your research and choosen a CD please let me know your choice. Thanks ___ ■ SLMR 2.1a ■ Press any key to continue or any other key to quit --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Chronicles of Narnia 215-464-9068 (1:273/941) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD JOHNSON Number: 10443 To: DAVID SILVER Date: 12/10/93 12:38a Subj: Re: Hitachi IF Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Quoting David Silver to Joe Rinehart dated 12-06-93 *** > By the way, do you know any tricks to get seemingly dead 3500's working > again? I have 2 that have "died", but either pressing on the top of > one > of them or fiddling with the controller/power connections gets it > working > for a short while. It will read disks fine 2 or 3 times in a row, > then, > with no other changes, it will stop reading and I'll get a "drive not > ready" > error. Sometimes the light will stay on continuously prior to this > happening. > I've tried blowing them out with dustoff, but only with the covers on > so I was > operating blind. ANY suggestions from you - or anyone else - would be > most Try cleaning the lens with a Q-tip and alcohol. It very tricky to do but I did it on mine after I bought it and it solved all my little problems like that. I do the same to Audio CD players when they start to skip too much. Don't press hard on the lens when you do this as it is aligned in a certain spot and you may mess up this alignment. Main idea is to get it wet and just lightly rub it, the alcohol will evaporate rather quickly. I tied 2 q-tips together at an angle to get into the case from the front. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: THE JunkYard BBS (1:226/510.10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED WELCH Number: 10444 To: GARY HUFF Date: 12/26/93 10:43p Subj: RE: TOSHIBA_VS PANASONIC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No hey gary! i've got a SB PRO and i'm thinking of getting the panasonic 2x for it i've got a 486dx 33 4meg ram, 130 hd, svga 1meg, 64k cache is this good enough to run he cr-rom? are there any other faster drives compatible with my SB PRO? should i upgrade my ram to 8megs, get another hd, upgrade my cache? thanks --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Deep Cove BBS - White Rock, B.C., Canada (604)536-5885 (1:153/915) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED WELCH Number: 10445 To: GRANT DEASON Date: 12/26/93 10:46p Subj: KING QUEST 6 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No use a brick --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Deep Cove BBS - White Rock, B.C., Canada (604)536-5885 (1:153/915) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED WELCH Number: 10446 To: CLIVE CARMOCK Date: 12/26/93 10:53p Subj: PANASONIC 562B Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No i've got a sb pro and i'm thinking of getting the panasonic double speed cd-rom drive should i get it? i've got a 486dx 33, 4megs ram, 130hd, 64k cache, svga 1meg is this good enough hardware? are there any better drives than the panasonic double speed which are compatible with My SB PRO? thanks --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Deep Cove BBS - White Rock, B.C., Canada (604)536-5885 (1:153/915) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KENT TIMM Number: 10447 To: TAMI THOMPSON Date: 12/27/93 12:26p Subj: ... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I was wondering where you are calling from? Your message had no origin line. I get postal mail addressed to somebody with your name from time to time stuck in my mail by mistake. I would have replied by netmail, by like I said, no origin line.. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Not Found, should I fake (Y,N)> (1:250/242) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADAM BRIAND Number: 10448 To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 12/27/93 2:57p Subj: Mode 1 And 2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BF > >Could someone tell me what the difference is between mode > >2 and mode 1 on a > >cd-rom drive? > > Mode 2 uses 2304(?) byte sectors, Mode 1 uses 2048 byte > sectors. No other real > changes. > > >I'm wondering what type of software utilizes each mode? > > I don't remember the last time I heard of a Mode 1 disc - I suspect it's o > included for backwards compatability with really OLD discs.... > Ok, thanks. That clears things up. * JABBER v1.1 * REALITY.SYS Corrupted: Re-boot universe? (Y/N/Q) --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: *-Super S.O.N.I.C. BBS-* *-(416)225-8942-* (1:250/722) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KENT TIMM Number: 10449 To: TAMI THOMPSON Date: 12/25/93 12:17p Subj: Amiga And Nec-38 Multi Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I was wondering where you are calling from? Your message had no origin line. I get postal mail addressed to somebody with your name from time to time stuck in my mail by mistake. Eglinton and Victoria Park? I would have replied by netmail, by like I said, no origin line.. ... I'm not Superman, but I played a reporter on TV. --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: TIBM Wizard.Echomail Hub USRDS(416)7436703 (1:250/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KENT TIMM Number: 10450 To: ALL Date: 12/25/93 6:22p Subj: 4SALE: Dream Girl game Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Game For Sale: Dream Girl (PG version) CD-ROM Includes manual, registeration card, jewel box, original box. Also has Windows screen saver and wallpaper. ONLY 2 days old. ** Reason for selling: Game REQUIRES VGA with 512K or more, I only have 256K on my card. And a 386 DX, I have a SX :-( Game requires: 386DX, 2Meg RAM, VGA (512K), CD-ROM, Windows 3.1, DOS 5 (or higher), mouse. Sells for $50, asking $40. [Money order only, no checks.] I was able to view the photos on it: very good:-) ... My other computer is a 986. --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: TIBM Wizard.Echomail Hub USRDS(416)7436703 (1:250/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB BALDOCK Number: 10451 To: BRIAN ECKBLAD Date: 12/28/93 8:04a Subj: OMNI CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > driver is says NOT ENOUGH DRIVE LETTERS AVAILABLE. Well I > MSCDEK "PATH" /d:MSCD001 /L:f etc I ahve tried many > different combinations. It is driving me nuts. I have a I believe a LASTDRIVE=F (or Higher) in Config.sys will solve this for you. Bob --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: Electronic Systems Perspectives, Ottawa Ontario, Canada (1:243/48) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB JENKINS Number: 10452 To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 12/28/93 1:43p Subj: 7th guest problem Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thanks for the reply. I have the problem solved, after two calls to Virgin Games in California. If the game itself were not so impressive, I would be VERY ticked off. The problem I encounterd was as follows: the installation program worked fine, and everything was great until the credits were finished then 'poof' out to the dos prompt with the message "Error: there has been a memory error". Nice and vague eh... The first call (after waiting in the call-que for 12 minutes) was futile.The 'expert' told me to update my mouse driver from 7. something to 8.0 or better. Great! Nope, it didn't work. So I called again, this time waiting only nine minutes (I can't wait to get my phone bill). Now I was told I needed a minimum of 575 K for the thing to run. SILLY ME! I made the ridiculous assumption that after the installation program sniffed out my system ,including ram, it would only load if it could actually run! WRONG. So I had to take stacker off one of my drives, (to free up a litlle more ram) and presto, it works. This is a clear case of all the effort going into the product and very little on how it would function on the millions of different systems out there. From he volume of mail re this game, it is obvious there needs to be a major improvement on the part of Virgin games. I for one, will probably not purchase more of their products, at least until I hear this has been adressed. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Lester's Hideaway, Smiths Falls, ON (1:256/202@FIDONET.ORG) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY HAY Number: 10453 To: JOE RINEHART Date: 12/28/93 11:13a Subj: !free Cd catalog! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 12-26-93 Joe Rinehart wrote to All... JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!************* JR> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog... JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us. Please send me a copy Gary Hay RR2 Perth Rd. Ont. Canada K0H 2L0 ... OFFLINE 1.51 "Nurse! I said: "SLIP off his SPECtacles!"" --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: * Moonlight Cascade**RR#2 Perth Road**613-353-7369 * (1:249/133) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN ELFERT Number: 10454 To: MIKE BILOW Date: 12/27/93 3:42p Subj: Christmas stuff!? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I don't know off the top of my head whether the Netware CDROM.NLM wil -> mulitple LUNs per PUN, but I don't see why not. CorelSCSI will. I could never get Corel SCSI for Netware 3.11 to work with a Ultrastor 34F controller and a Pioneer changer. The CDSVR100 NLM would load abnormally, the server would begin accessing the hard disk endlessly, and after a minute or so, the server would Abend. The NLM worked perfectly with four Chinon CD-ROM drives. Brian --- WM v3.10/91-0224 * Origin: City Lights <612-633-1366> <6 LINES> <16.8 D/S> (1:282/108) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG HASKINS Number: 10455 To: ALL Date: 12/27/93 1:09p Subj: Echo test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No This is a test of Renegade and Squish ... --- Renegade v07-17 Beta * Origin: Excel BBS..Newburyport MA. 24K v32 v42BiZ (1:324/171) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 10456 To: BRYAN ANSLOW Date: 12/28/93 7:13p Subj: WINDOWS AND PC'S CR*P Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BA>For those of you who may be interested, I run a 386/33DX with 8Mb RAM, BA>2x100Mb disks-stacked, with a Panasonic CR562B CD drive running off a BA>SoundBlaster Pro (IRQ 10, IO Base 220, DMA 1), with MSCDEX 2.22, and BA>Creative Labs sbcd.sys Driver, dated 16jul93. Also a CMS401-11 MPU BA>card, (IRQ's 3+7, IO Base 330) and a NE2000 Network Card, (IRQ 5, IO BA>Base 340). Software is DOS 5 and Windows 3.1. Part of your problem may be the stacked drives.. you shouldn't EVER run Window off a stacked drive.. causes all kinds of problems.. l8r, Scott ___ * MR/2 1.52 NR * 2.0 is better than 1. --- Renegade v07-17 Beta * Origin: The Domain (904)291-1883 (1:112/2701) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN TALBOT Number: 10457 To: ADAM BRIAND Date: 12/24/93 10:55a Subj: Fx-001d Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The telephone # is (800)554-5218. Brian ___ * MR/2 1.53 NR * I am sweet and lovable at all times. --- MsgToss 2.0d(beta) 02/21/93 * Origin: The Rainbow Zen - Fallston, Md - (410)893-8255 (1:2617/108) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOSEPH ROBERTSON Number: 10458 To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 12/27/93 7:21p Subj: Mitsumi double-spin driv Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BF> My personal inclination is to go with the Panasonic due to the BF>chainability, but most folks don't have a use for more than 1 drive BF>per machine.... Thanks for the suggestion. I decided to go with the Panasonic. So far, I have no complaints. Internet: robertson.joseph@7thwave.scssi.com === * CmpQwk #UNREG * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: TSUNAMI - Catch the Wave (1:112/75) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NORM HILL Number: 10459 To: BRYAN ANSLOW Date: 12/27/93 11:52p Subj: Windows And pc's cr*p Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BA>MsgToss (continued from LAST message) BA>Now I realise that the problems, in this case, are to do with conflicts BA>between the CD-ROM hardware/software and other hardware/software within BA>the PC, but why is it allowed to occur? Why should I have to pull out BA>that card if I want to run this application or remove that driver to BA>run BA>this application with that hardware? Hardly a seamless switch from one BA>application to another. BA>The answer is; shoddy hardware and software products which barely do BA>the BA>job they are supposed to and follow no standards for memory allocation, BA>hardware recognition, interrupt generation, meaningless error messages, BA>etc. BA>I guess that people are prepared to put up with half-written code that BA>has little or no error recovery just so long as the price is kept low. BA>I just hope that the stuff I am writing for windows at the moment is BA>just a tad better. BA>I would personally be prepared to pay a little more for a product which BA>worked rather than have to spend half an hour removing BA>hardware/software BA>so that a particular application will run without any problems. BA>What do the rest of you think? BA>Bryan. BA>For those of you who may be interested, I run a 386/33DX with 8Mb RAM, BA>2x100Mb disks-stacked, with a Panasonic CR562B CD drive running off a BA>SoundBlaster Pro (IRQ 10, IO Base 220, DMA 1), with MSCDEX 2.22, and BA>Creative Labs sbcd.sys Driver, dated 16jul93. Also a CMS401-11 MPU BA>card, (IRQ's 3+7, IO Base 330) and a NE2000 Network Card, (IRQ 5, IO BA>Base 340). Software is DOS 5 and Windows 3.1. BA>--- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] BA> * Origin: CSC-BBS !!! (44-(0)473-610218) (2:2501/308) I would start by unstacking the drive you are putting the Windows swap file on. Stacker and Windows documentation alude to the fact that you should not compress the swap files. Part of you problem may reside that compressed swap files are unreliable and very liable to corrupt. Also upgrade your version of MSCDEX, it is up to 2.23. Hope that helps a little. Norm Hill. --- ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ MSI - Bringing it all together in '92 --- MsgToss 2.0c! (r) * Origin: Intercity RBBS, Richmond VA.(21.6DS) (1:264/152) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANDREW BARNHARDT Number: 10460 To: ALL Date: 12/27/93 9:29p Subj: Shareware CDs.. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey.. Could anyone tell me if Shareware CDs like Night Owl have a BBS that you can call with your shareware so that they'll [obviously] put it on their CD? If so, any phone #s for their BBSs would be great. = Andrew B. --- SuperBBS 1.18 Beta-1 (Reg) * Origin: The Prime Directive, ZyXEL 19.2, Node *1 (905)382-3446 (1:247/301) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AL AGEE Number: 10461 To: ALL Date: 12/26/93 12:02p Subj: Custom cds Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ************ PRICE REDUCTION ************ - Is your hard drive full? - Tired of waiting on that slow tape drive? - Lost under a mountain of floppies? Make your own CD-ROM! Put 600+ Megabytes of your proprietary data on a ISO 9660 standard CD for $89. Additional copies are only $69 each. Send 600 MB of PC data on DC-2120 QIC-40 or QIC-80 tapes (Used by Colorado Memory Systems tape drives). I will transfer your data to an ISO standard CD and have it on its way back to you, usually within two days. Perfect for a BBS SYSOP who is out of hard drive space. Distribute the company's archived data to all offices. Programmers: Save high setup cost of CD Mastering houses. - Safe. A virus can't attack files on a CD. - Secure. Once the data is on the CD, it can't be changed. - Inexpensive. CD backup costs as little as tape. Floppies cost more than the CD drive and tape drive combined! - Convenient. No more swapping tapes and searching through floppies. - Compatible. Works under Windows or DOS. Share it on a LAN. - Fast. Newer triple speed drives read at up to 450K/sec...three times the speed of a floppy. Eight times the speed of a tape. Ship QIC-40 or QIC-80 tapes and cashier's check or money order for $89 ($69 for second copy) + $5 shipping to: Allen Agee 52 Sleepy Hollow Road Andover, New Jersey 07821-5000 (201)786-7716 - the fine print - Personal checks must clear the bank before the order is shipped. I don't have time to censor you. You are responsible to ensure putting your data on CD does not break any laws or copyright licenses. === * The PC GFX Exchange * San Francisco, CA * (1:125/217) --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: The PC GFX Exchange * San Francisco, CA * (1:125/217) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID SILVER Number: 10462 To: GORDON FLETCHER Date: 12/26/93 7:05a Subj: KODAK ON A 1X??? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Gordon, Tuesday December 21 1993 11:05, Gordon Fletcher wrote to David Silver: GF> David here's the info: Lazerquick GF> 2959 SW Cedar Hills Blvd. GF> Beaverton, OR 97005 Thanks VERY much Gordon - and have a happy holiday. David --- GoldED 2.42.G1114+ --- FastEcho+SBBS+InterMail * Origin: The Silverado <-> Heidelberg, Germany ZyXEL 19.2 (2:246/9717) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS HOFFECKER Number: 10463 To: RALPH LINDEMANN Date: 12/26/93 1:58p Subj: Corel Scsi Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ralph Lindemann COREL SCSI 12-24-93 12:00 RL>Hello everybody! RL> RL>Does anybody have some information on Corel SCSI Version 2.0 ??? Ralph, I know that Corel wants $79 for the upgrade from 1.1 -> 2.0 and an additional $15 for S/H. I haven't ordered it, I'll wait for awhile until the price drops a little and then mail order it. Thomas --- FastEcho+SBBS+InterMail * Origin: The Silverado <-> Heidelberg, Germany v.32bis (2:246/9717) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS HOFFECKER Number: 10464 To: ALL Date: 12/26/93 2:00p Subj: New Nec Cd Rom Drives Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I recently saw the new NEC triple speed CDROM drives advertised in Computer Shopper. Does anybody have one of these new drives? How much faster are they compared to a Toshiba? What info does the LCD display? Thanks Thomas --- FastEcho+SBBS+InterMail * Origin: The Silverado <-> Heidelberg, Germany v.32bis (2:246/9717) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOMINIK WEBER Number: 10465 To: ALL Date: 12/27/93 12:58p Subj: guiness disc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! Does anybody know, if the guiness disc of records is good, or is it bull***t?? so long Dominik --- FMail 0.92 * Origin: ...DUMMDUMM... (2:301/212.29) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PIETROPAOLO BIANCHI Number: 10466 To: MIKE BUTSCH Date: 12/26/93 1:37a Subj: U.S. CD-ROM Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In scriptura diei <Dec 24 11:13>, Mike Butsch ipse (2:301/212) dixit: MB> European Dealers and Swiss Endusers. If you are intersted in cheap U.S. MB> CD-ROM Software like Rebel Assault, Mad Dog McCree, Night Owl's V10, MB> Hellcab, Kings Quest VI and all the other new stuff for your CD-ROm PC MB> contact us. Foreign countrys only dealers and quanity 20 cd's mix and MB> match. Swiss Customers any quanity. Call our BBS and get our pricelist Please STOP this uninformative COMMERCIAL CRAP within our amateur network or i will file a complaint against you at the Z2EC level, or at the area moderator, if it turns out there is one. Bianki 331/307 --- msgedsq 2.1 * Origin: Laboratory Medicine Online = TeleSIBioC (2:331/307.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL ROBBELOTH Number: 10467 To: MAX GREEN Date: 12/06/93 8:34p Subj: Creative Labs Phone # Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MAX 12-03-93 12:20 MG>Recently purchased an OEM type CD Rom dbl-speed. I have all of MG>the documentation however, Creative Labs phone number is not MG>listed. What I am looking for is the BBS number 9600 or above MG>so that I can D/L the latest SBCD.SYS drivers. Any help would MG>be appreciated. If you have this latest file 4.12 available and MG>will give me D/L access you can post your number here as well. MG>Thanks for any and all assistance. Max MG> MG>--- PPoint 1.70 MG> * Origin: A Professional Point System (1:396/17.13) Max, The number for Creative Labs BBS is (408) 428-6660. Supports speeds up through 14.4k. 12/06/93 20:34 --- FMail 0.92 * Origin: The Computer Recyclery for Used Computers! (1:110/150) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB JACKSON Number: 10468 To: ANYONE Date: 12/09/93 9:28a Subj: Cd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Anyone out there using the "Streets" cd rom disc? Does it go into detail on the maps the way it advertises? I would like to get it as I am an over the road truck driver and could use it to locate new deliveries.. Any help would be appreciated.... Bob Jackson 1:110/380 --- DB 1.54/002334 * Origin: Bob's Bulldog Express (1:110/380) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIANE PENCIL Number: 10469 To: JOHN ALEXANDER Date: 12/09/93 11:48p Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Where is the painting of stauff's face located? It is my last puzzle > and I can't find it. It is at the foot of the staircase right in front of the front door where you started. Look down! --- FMail 0.92 * Origin: The Computer Recyclery for Used Computers! (1:110/150) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RAYMOND WETMORE Number: 10470 To: BRIAN ECKBLAD Date: 12/27/93 7:49a Subj: Re: OMNI CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Brian, Try setting the lastdrive parameter in your config.sys. Dos defalults to e: if there is nothing entered. Add this line or change your existing line to read lastdrive=G Later Raymond --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: The File Bank, Inc. (303) 534-4646 - Files, Files, Files (1:104/899) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN ECKBLAD Number: 10471 To: RAYMOND WETMORE Date: 12/27/93 10:49p Subj: Re: OMNI CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No THANKS It worked Later Brian --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: The File Bank, Inc. (303) 534-4646 - Files, Files, Files (1:104/899) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LOYD CRAFT Number: 10472 To: JASON WAGNER Date: 12/28/93 6:16p Subj: CD Format Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Do they make 3" CD-ROM disks? It would seem better to > me to put programs (such as games) that don't have 660MB of data on a > smaller disk... maybe its impracticle, maybe I'm just dumb.. <G> Yes, they can be used, since a CDROM records data starting on the inner portion of the disk and moves outward (opposite of how LP's store music). Some drives have a smaller tray inside the larger drawer tray, and that is where you would place it. OTHER drives that aren't designed to hold a 3" CD must use a carrier that will center the CD inside the Caddy or drawer. This means added cost for customer. This makes it impractical to use for distribution, since the 3" really cost no less than the full-sized disk. In the recordable cd arena, prices on 3" disks are approx $3 - 5 less than the full-sized disk, so it really is impractical to stock them unless someone SPECIFICALLY needs them. > Also, is there such a thing as LD-ROM (LaserDisc > ROM)?!? I remember reading something about it a looong time ago, but > haven't heard anything about it since. Laserdiscs? 50GB per disk? <G> In the desktop video world, there IS a recordable Laserdisk, which makes cdrom recorder drives look cheap ($38 - 40K). It's also an erasable/rewritable technology. Sort of takes the place of a frame accurate VCR. Noone has hooked one of these up to a computer for storing files like CDROMs do. It's hard enough to find 650 megs to put on CD... but 50 gigs? Wait till Windows v5 or so <g> loYD --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: Four Star DayDreams - St. Charles, MI (1:239/900) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ULLMER Number: 10473 To: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE Date: 12/28/93 11:32a Subj: Re: Return to Zork Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Christoph Steinecke to Alle <=- CS> Can anyone fill me in , how goot Return to Zork really is ? CS> Is it worth the money ? CS> How difficult is it ? CS> How are the gaphics , the sound, etc ,etc,..... Speaking for a majority of one, I think it's a lot of fun. Mixture of different kinds of challenges, from arcade type action to brain-twister puzzles. Music is excellent. ... Life is only game that doesn't have a solve. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Thunderbird (1:387/603) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ULLMER Number: 10474 To: JASON WAGNER Date: 12/28/93 11:39a Subj: Re: Lots 'O Questions! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Jason Wagner to All <=- JW> Finally, my last question for all you techies (And I appreciate JW> this!)... I'm probably gonna come off looking like a fool for asking JW> this, but since I'm new to CD-ROM I'll ask it anyways! I am under the JW> impression that CD-ROM main advantage is the fact that EVERYTHING is on JW> the CD... no more pinched hard drive space. Is this true? All the games I have require at least 10 Meg. on the HD. Two of them take close to 20 meg. The only CD I ever saw that didn't require files on the HD was a PC-Sig shareware disk I got a few years back. ... There are no foolish questions, only foolish answers. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Thunderbird (1:387/603) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ULLMER Number: 10475 To: THOMAS HOFFECKER Date: 12/28/93 11:48a Subj: Re: New Nec Cd Rom Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Thomas Hoffecker to All <=- TH> I recently saw the new NEC triple speed CDROM drives advertised in TH> Computer Shopper. Does anybody have one of these new drives? How much TH> faster are they compared to a Toshiba? What info does the LCD display? I just got one, Tom. No need to worry about lags or break ups with the triple spin. Does a Ferarri travel faster and handle better than a Fiesta? The window gives the speed used on the disk, test statistic, any error messages, disk in or out, etc. It's a cute frill; who's got time to look at a readout while your using your monitor, mouse and keyboard? The NEC 3X is, BTW, considerably more expensive than a 2X; $240 more than a NEC double spin. ... Why isn't everything 32 bit? ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Thunderbird (1:387/603) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ULLMER Number: 10476 To: THOMAS HOFFECKER Date: 12/28/93 11:51a Subj: Re: New Nec Cd Rom Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Thomas Hoffecker to All <=- TH> I recently saw the new NEC triple speed CDROM drives advertised in TH> Computer Shopper. Does anybody have one of these new drives? How much TH> faster are they compared to a Toshiba? What info does the LCD display? Sorry, I forgot to mention, the SCSI does NOT come with the drive/reader. You purchase the board separately. You'll also need a 16 bit sound card. ... SENILE.COM found . . . Out Of Memory . . . ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Thunderbird (1:387/603) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ULLMER Number: 10477 To: BRIAN ECKBLAD Date: 12/28/93 11:55a Subj: Re: OMNI CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Brian Eckblad to All <=- BE> I have a Omni CD-ROM, I can not get it to load the driver BE> MSCDEX "or something like that" When I try to load the BE> driver is says NOT ENOUGH DRIVE LETTERS AVAILABLE. Well I BE> can not get in touch with Creative Labs Tech Support and You need to go into your config.sys and put in the line: Last drive=L Put that line in EARLY in the config.sys, even before the himem.sys command. ... This tagline is SHAREWARE! To register, send me $10 ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Thunderbird (1:387/603) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ULLMER Number: 10478 To: MICHAEL GARBER Date: 12/28/93 12:12p Subj: Re: Writable? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Michael Garber to All <=- MG> What is the current story on writable CD-ROM's? Just a curiosity. MG> MG> MIke You can buy a write/drive for a CD from Panasonic for somewhere between $5000-6000. There are others who also make CD write/drives, but I don't remember who off the top of my head. ... My computer has Altzheimers. It forgets the day, the date, the time. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Thunderbird (1:387/603) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HUGH CRAIG Number: 10479 To: STEVEN STEPP Date: 12/27/93 4:05p Subj: Video Output Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message dated 12-25-93, Steven Stepp said to All: SS>Help please! I just got a CD ROM and sound card. This was SS>bundled with Microsoft multimedia pack for windows 3.1. SS>The sound is fine but the video stinks. I am running a SS>25Mhz 386 with 8 megs of memory. SS>There is no math co-processor or special windows ex card. SS>Is ther anything I can do to get the video to play SS>correctly? SS> Steve Not being sarcastic here but that machine needs more horsepower. Ya, upgrade the motherboard to a 486 33 VLB or higher. Then stick a VLB Video card in it. I just did that with my 486-33 ISA system. The VLB MB cost me 130 and the Cirrus Logic 5426 VLB video card set me back another $99. All I had to do was rip the processor out of the old ISA MB. Much snappier now.! You could look into coproccessed video cards, but for what they cost IMHO it makes more sense to upgrade the entire system to VLB. If your on a shoestring budget there are MB's that will use 386 up to pentium chip proccessors. The one I bought will only accept 486SX,DX, DX2(clock doubled) and the P24T(Pentium). Good luck. .. "640K ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates, 1981 -- MR/2 #114 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: COMM Port One OS/2 (713) 980-9671 (1:106/2000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 10480 To: DICK CRAVENS Date: 12/28/93 5:51p Subj: Re: CD ROM INFO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LR>calculations, just to write a single screen. I can do a TREMENDOUS LR>amount of work with 10,000,000 calculations. Compare that with a LR>text screen, which can take less than 5000 calculations. DC> Of course you can. That's not the point of a GUI. Obviously not. Mostly, the point of the GUI is to look pretty, as that is the only advantage of the GUI over a text based interface. However, it also allows the user to spend lots of time and effort doing nothing, or at least very little, while making it appear as if they are doing a great deal. Oh, yes, lots of changing colors, mouse clicks, flashing screens, and menu after menu, but the amount of work done... DC> can make the machine incredibly efficient if we eliminate the console DC> I/O altogether, but then WHAT USE WOULD IT BE? Other than to a fluent DC> programmer, of course. Most of the most productive machines on the planet have no user interface whatsoever, or an extremely limited one. In fact, many supercomputers have no I/O capability at all, per se, and don't really even have an Operating System, let alone a User Interface. User based machines are just the tail of the dog, but this tail, as usual when Mad Ave gets its hands on something, is waving the dog. Your question in and of itself shows that you have little inkling of the power of the computer, or the tasks which it can perform. While I myself have as much need of a user interface as any other user, the computer has little such need, and in most cases is just hampered by such superfluities. Some of the very powerful machines I handle indeed do not have even a keyboard, or a monitor, or a printer. In cybernetics, MOST of the machines do not have interfaces, except for trouble shooting purposes. Like many people, you assume that a secretary pumping out yet another useless memo that no one will read or follow, or an executive that believes that adding a lot of glitz will make his lousy idea palatable are the only reason for having computers. DC> If you actually believe that everyone else in the world thinks, works DC> and learns as you do What the hell do I care what the rest of the world thinks, works, or learns? If you truly claim to be concerned about the needs of every other user in the world, in exclusion of your own needs, then you are surely a hypocrite. DC> percentage of people need a GUI to be productive with a computer DC> quickly. IBM, Xerox, Microsoft and Apple have done a lot of research to DC> back this up. Their research backs up my position rather well, actually. However, your statement is irrelevant to that research, which happens to deal with MARKETING, not with job productivity, for the most part, or the activities of any GUI. You keep sidestepping the fact that a GUI does nothing at all but look pretty. DDE, client-server utilities, drag and drop, point and shoot, Common User Interface, API hooks, even graphics manipulations are all easily implemented in a CLI, and with the exception of graphics manipulations, are all easily implemented into a text based interface. With some hardware modifications, even scalable fonts can be implemented into a text based interface, and all of these can be *FAR* faster and more versatile than any GUI can ever possibly offer to be. More important than the machine bandwidth, however, is the human bandwidth. Bandwidth is not some artificial limitation placed on computing machines; it is a fundamental aspect of the universe, and while the human machine is extraordinarily good at pattern recognition, it nonetheless requires a very large bandwidth of the human visual cortex and the neocortex. That bandwidth could otherwise be used for various other cognitive purposes, including thinking. If you do not believe me, try reading several pages of hieroglyphics. On this screen, at this moment, are over 700 words, and I can easily read and understand this entire page in just over 30 seconds. Now, a handful of graphics characters *CAN* impart far, far more information than that, with a full page of graphics being able to convey many MILLIONS of pages of text in equivalent information, but it is not. Instead, a figure that uses enough machine and human communications to transmit a small book is used to convey the simple message: WP.EXE, or some such. Your GUI can maybe display thirty executable files as icons to be selected to run, perhaps a bit more with some real fiddling by kludging on a text interface OVER the GUI and doing a tree display in which you exclude all but .EXE and .COM files. Meanwhile, while you are doing your configuring, I can type Dir /P/Q/S/B/4 *.exe, *.com And get almost 200 filenames on each page, requiring about 7 pages to display all the executable files on this system. I can scan all the applications at my fingertips, well over a thousand of them, in less than three minutes. I can skim them in less than 20 seconds. DC> I didn't say multitasking is tied to the interface; I'm well aware of DC> the history of operating systems. Then why are you talking about multitasking as a benefit of the GUI? Plainly and simply, it isn't, and any discussion of the alleged superiority of the GUI over the CLI cannot reference multitasking, since it is not a function of the GUI nor exclusive to it. It is like saying that the Ford Mustang is superior to the Chevrolet Corvette as a sports car because the Mustang has a V-8 engine. It is possible that the Ford is superior, but *NOT* because it has a V-8, since the Chevy does, too. If you wish to talk superiority, you are going to have to name something that the GUI does that the CLI does not, or at least that it does better. I am waiting. DC> It's not realistic for individuals or companies to purchase multiple DC> machines for multiple tasks, at any price, when applications must share DC> information for local processing, or the user must change from one task DC> to the other quickly (by quickly I mean instantaneously, without having DC> to move physically to another machine). I did not say that multitasking does not have its uses: I use a multitasking OS on this machine, specifically OS/2 2.1. What I do *NOT* use is the silly GUI, nor any GUI based programs. Nonetheless, I have three other personal machines, each doing its own things, as this machine does it various simultaneous things. Many of the applications on this and other machines are graphics applications, including several of which I have written myself, but *NONE* of them are graphical. DC> Your attitude reminds me of the MIS administrator at my place of work. DC> He came on board from the Air Force, a twenty year veteran, looking for DC> his first private sector job during his early retirement. Nice guy, but DC> a little "rusty" where PC technology was concerned. I doubt I remind you of any such thing, since I am well acquainted with almost every aspect of contemporary PC computing. I also have never been in the military, nor am I looking to retire any time in the next three decades, if I can help it. As far as technology is concerned, this machine is a 50 MHz EISA 486-DX with 12 peripheral slots, an ATI EISA Graphics Ultra Pro with 2 Megs of VRAM, an Adaptec 1742 EISA Busmaster SCSI Host Adapter, an 850 Meg Toshiba SCSI Hard drive, a Pioneer DRM-604X CD-ROM changer, a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 sound card (just a tinker toy, really), a 21M Insite Floptical disk, a 128M Fujitsu M-O drive, two STB 4COM 4 port serial boards, a Logitech Trackman, and a host of serial equipment. My other three machines, while not as technically advanced as this one, are nonetheless powerful enough, and do what they must with alacrity. I am intimately familiar with every aspect of these four machines from byte-by-byte code level to component board level. My work requires me to handle a much broader range of machines, from 4.77MHz True Blue IBM XT's to several small DOS based networks, two XENIX multiuser setups on old 286's, a moderate sized Novell based LAN, a VAX, and a couple of AS-400's. I have a fairly thorough understanding of modern PC technology, thank you. DC> You would not believe the howls that went up in MIS when I suggested DC> purchasing additional ports for each workstation in the department. The We are talking about the GUI, not hardware. DC> BTW, Microsoft Windows was the ONLY PC environment on the market at that DC> time that allowed us to solve that set of problems (COM loopback with DC> full dual session display, simultaneous access to customer and technical DC> databases, simple integration of real-time email and other DC> applications). >> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 << >> Continued in next message << ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 10481 To: DICK CRAVENS Date: 12/28/93 5:51p Subj: Re: CD ROM INFO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 << >> Continued from previous message << This is false, which pretty much tells me how much *YOU* really know about PC technology. Geoworks, Xenix, Unix, and a host of multiuser systems all could easily have implemented the same system. None of this, however, has anything to do with the *GUI*, or more to the point, in any way points to any superiority of the GUI. An OS operating with a GUI can do all of the things that an OS without a GUI can do, of course, and it looks pretty doing it. But the cost of that (irrelevant) attractiveness is a huge loss in the capability of the machine to do that work quickly and of the user to transfer maximal amounts of information across the machine/user interface. DC> I experienced the same logic when I suggested that Windows might perform DC> better with 8MB RAM vs. 4MB. Which has nothing to do with the GUI. You have yet to present a single argument for the GUI. Yes, *ANY* system is going to usually be faster and more efficient, as well as more stable, with more RAM. (Minor exception: 24 bit DMA controllers coupled with machines with more than 16 Meg of memory). I have never owned an Intel machine with less than 8 Megs of RAM (and my first was bought in the days when RAM was over $400 per Meg), nor have I at any time in the last five years recommended less than 8 Megs to any buyer. DC> So in our business, we are more productive with a single machine DC> multitasking, No doubt this is partially true, although I would prefer distributed processing systems for their robust nature in any system where multiple machines are going to be in use in any case. DC> and a GUI is the best answer for us. Highly unlikely, but then, like most users, you probably have never seen a well trained user handling a powerful CLI, nor investigated the literally trillions of operations at the fingertips of a command line user. Here is one clue for you: COMMAND.COM does not even come within light years of qualifying as a decent CLI, let alone a powerful one. DC> BTW, even if it were economically feasible to have separate machines, DC> and technically desirable, we don't have room in our cubes!! You already have separate machines, one in each cubicle. Each machine can be handling a single task, despite the fact that each monitor has several tasks appearing on it. You are thinking in terms of old technology, and the user hardware and computing hardware do not have to be intimately linked. With distributed processing, half your PC's could go down, and yet not a single user would be offline. All of which has nothing whatsoever to do with the GUI. Also, you are thinking in two dimensions. I have four computers here that take up an area of less than three square feet. In one office, we have ten computers in just such an area, although a much taller one, of course. The keyboards and monitors do not have to be sitting next to the machines, you know, and one keyboard and monitor can serve a dozen machines, if necessary, or vice versa. DC> (Continued next message...) I'm sorry, but this is the only message I received. Les --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: GUI? Ptui!!! --- Last Chance Pt 4 (1:387/800.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE MAZZOLA Number: 10482 To: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE Date: 12/28/93 5:35p Subj: Panasonic 562/AT Bus interface card Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Christopher, CS> I think the CD ROM you have needs a SBPRO or a SB16 as the CS>Controller CS> You can't use it with at normal I/O AT-BUT Controller Card ! You could be right on that. The replacement card I was sent is a 16bit that has 3 40(?) pin connectors on it. The config sheet says use J1 for Sony, J2 for Mitsumi and J3 for Panasonic. JP7 is IRQs 3,4 or 5 and JP8/9 are DMA1/2/3. I don't remember which DMA is jumped but the IRQs are open. ..Mike --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Quantum Leap-San Antonio Tx. (210)333-5360 H16/DS (1:387/307) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SYLVESTER LACHOWSKI Number: 10483 To: JOE RINEHART Date: 12/28/93 10:51a Subj: !free Cd catalog! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Joe! 27 Dec 93 00:59, Joe Rinehart wrote to All: JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories JR> CATALOG!************* For the largest selection & lowest prices, JR> get our NEW catalog... If you'd like a printed copy, send your JR> mailing information to us. We offer CDLIST file attach's upon JR> request. CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc JR> titles available) JR> Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org JR> FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176 JR> Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc. Voice: (216) 296-9831 - 24 JR> hours P.O. Box 27 Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244 JR> Kent, Ohio 44240-0001 >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS JR> WELCOME<<< Can you send me one. 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Thanks Sylvester --- GoldED 2.42.G1219 * Origin: Inner City BBS (403)547-0616 Calgary, AB 16.8K V.32b (1:134/110) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOSHUA FULLER Number: 10485 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 12/28/93 6:08p Subj: NIGHT OWL 10 VIRUS REPORT Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No Subj: NIGHT OWL 10 VIRUS REPORT Conf: (177) CDROM NET --------------------------------------------------------------------------- MSIt involves a treble damage lawsuit filed by their former programmer, who MSclaims non-payment of royalties, etc. That's the *current* one. MSApparently there are others pending. Non-payment? I thought it had something to do with the virus they had. Someone could sue if they really felt like it. c-ya --- * TLX v1.55 * Just when I make ends meet, someone moves one end. * SLMR 2.1a * --- DlgQWK v0.71a/DLGMail v2.51 * Origin: Bodega Bay Bbs ONLY AMIGA BBS N.E.Alabama (1:3657/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEAN SINICO Number: 10486 To: ALL Date: 12/28/93 10:19p Subj: The Magic Death9 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello everyone, I'm wondering if anyone out that has heard of a CD-ROM game called the magic death? From what I've seen you have 6 hours to solve a murder mystery. I am looking for a copy of this game. If anyone knows where I could find it any help would be appreciated. sean sinico ... "I've been dead before." --- Spock ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: B.E. Home of AUTORACE Echo! 413-499-1327 (1:321/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEITH RITCHIE Number: 10487 To: ALL Date: 12/28/93 11:59p Subj: Cd rom's data capacity Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I just purchased a Reveal multimedia upgrade kit that included a double speed CD rom made by Matsushita. My qusetion is the specs say that it has a data capacity of 540MB...won't this make CD's like 7th guest or large shareware CD's with greater than 600MB worthless. After a half hour on hold with Reveal's technical assistance they stated that it would run all CD's and that the 540MB was a "minimum #". Before I braek the seal on the packages would someone give me some input as to whether this is true or am I being fed a line. Your help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Keith --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: Rosedale Data Line Rosedale, MD *USA* H16 410.866.4554 (1:2617/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN ALBERT Number: 10488 To: BRIAN ECKBLAD Date: 12/28/93 12:35p Subj: OMNI CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Brian Eckblad to All <=- BE> something like that" When I try to load the driver is says NOT ENOUGH BE> DRIVE LETTERS AVAILABLE. Just put this line in your config.sys : LASTDRIVE=F That's it! SHaka! ... Unrecoverable system error at 417A:32CF. Incompetent user ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- WM v3.10/93-0624 * Origin: DELTACOM, Montreal, Qc (514) 877-4964 (1:167/300) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB HAMILTON Number: 10489 To: ANY Date: 12/27/93 4:38p Subj: wanted: DRM600A Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone have a 6 disk CD-ROM changer? I'm looking for the Pioneer DRM-600A. I don't need the fancy new 604, just a good reliable DRM-600. If you have a 600 and are thinking of an upgrade, this is a good chance to dump off yesterday's technology. Oh yes... I want it CHEAP! Thanks! Bob. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Shadowland Regina, Sk. Canada (306)789-1899 (1:140/119) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANDREW BARNHARDT Number: 10490 To: BRIAN ECKBLAD Date: 12/28/93 3:56p Subj: OMNI CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No )) Brian Eckblad to All about 'OMNI CD'; BE> have a Omni CD-ROM, I can not get it to load the driver MSCDEX "or BE> something like that" When I try to load the driver is says NOT ENOUGH BE> DRIVE LETTERS AVAILABLE. Well I can not get in touch with Creative BE> Labs Tech Support and their BBS does not answer. I have my HDD BE> sectioned in three parts C: D: and E: I am trying to get the CD ROM to BE> be Drive F:. It sounds as though you don't have the line: LASTDRIVE=F in your CONFIG.SYS file somewhere, that's why there aren't enough drive letters available for the driver to use. Give it a try.. = Andrew B. --- PTQWK 1.05 (Reg.) * Origin: The Prime Directive, USR DS 16.8, Node *2 905-894-2504 (1:247/305) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 10491 To: TONY WILLIAMS Date: 12/28/93 10:54a Subj: Re: Freeing up space Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tony - 27 Dec 93, Tony Williams writes to All: TW> Does anyone know of anyway that I can access more upper memory TW> to load some other files so that I have more room in conventional? Buy QEMM. - Arnie :+} --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Magnificent MIDI Machine (1:141/950.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MELVIN STEVENS Number: 10492 To: /CDROM Date: 12/28/93 11:41p Subj: FIDONET - CDROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CDROM DISCUSSIONS --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: Ancient Egypt * St. Marys, GA 31558 * (912)882-7431 (1:3640/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 10493 To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 12/27/93 1:26a Subj: PANASONIC 562 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Brice, this is not really to you so much as to the others, as your replies have been fairly accurate. However, I have rarely seen such a pile of $#%&#!@!!@ as has been posted in this thread. I feel I have to rectify some of the more egregious errors. So... RP> but only one sound channel, according to the SB diagram. Can RP> anyone explain what's going on here, and whether the missing RP> second ground wire is important? No, it isn't. You are dealing with unbalanced lines, and unbalanced lines, no matter how many in number, only require a single common line (usually ground or Earth ground, but not necessarily) plus one line for each signal. Balanced lines require two conductors per signal, and neither should normally ever be grounded. HC> Moons ago before high end audio systems were commen in autos it HC> was commen practice to run the ground leg commen to all the HC> speakers. Using balanced lines or unbalanced lines has nothing to do with whether a stereo resides in an automobile, nor whether the designer has isolated the returns between the two channels. In addition, unless I am mistaken, RP was talking about a *LINE* output, not a speaker level output. Somehow you guys got off talking about speaker outputs, which are quite different beasts. HC> Some even ran the ground via the chasiss...shiver... All automobiles utilize their chassis as a ground. Whether an audio designer decides to make use of that ground is immaterial. GH> Running common grounds is OK when dealing with DC (Direct GH> Current) circuits. Unfortunately, when dealing with AC GH> (Alternating Current) For the purposes of engineering, audio circuits *ARE* DC circuits. In fact, the audio spectrum is just that: audio frequency, or AF for short. The terms AC and DC can be applied variously, but if one is speaking of power systems, then audio is neither AC nor DC. If one is speaking of analytical systems, anything below about 100KHz is usually considered DC. GH> you cannot use a common ground without GH> some of the current being slightly out of phase with some of GH> the other currents, thus setting up ground loops. Ground loops have almost nothing to do with being out of phase, when speaking of audio systems. Furthermore, a frequency of 100KHz has a wavelength of just under 3 kilometers, and any lead length of a few meters is totally insignificant as far as phase relationships to frequencies even that high. At 10KHz, the wavelength is 30Km, and speaking of phase relationships in transmission leads is just absurd. GH> non-technical terms, this means you will get hum on your GH> audio if you don't run separate ground returns. Not in a piece of consumer electronics. GH> broadcast stations, they go to elaborate lengths to prevent GH> this problem. Each item of audio equipment has a "ground GH> buss" rod running down the middle of the chassis, and each GH> ground is connected to that ground buss. Then the ground GH> buss is brought out to a single ground terminal, and that GH> ground terminal is grounded to the station's common ground GH> buss, usually a very wide, flat strap of copper running GH> through the studio. This is to prevent more than just hum, but then radio transmitters, and even radio studios remote to transmitters can have literally dozens of Km of wires running through them, and more importantly, some of those wires can be carrying huge currents. The EMI running around a studio is *HUGE*, and any unshielded or improperly grounded piece of equipment can have quite substantial signals induced over the proper signal. GH> Automobiles run from DC (the 12-volt battery), and theoretically GH> aren't as fussy about ground loops as equipment run from the GH> 115 volt AC (household) current. The lower the voltage, the more problems with ground loops, and DC sourced equipment is *MUCH* more susceptible to EMI and ground loops than AC sourced equipment, since each piece of AC equipment has a transformer, a full wave bridge, and a filter network (possibly also a series pass element or a switching element) isol;ating the equipment from the power source. GH> your circuit, and steel instead of copper. Since steel has GH> greater resistance than copper, it might even slightly GH> unbalance the impedance your amplifier sees through its GH> speaker outlets. I don't know if you could HEAR the GH> difference, but I bet I could MEASURE the difference. And a GH> person with a critical ear might hear a difference, too. This is utter bull pookey. In the first place, the impedance of a typical steel chassis is several orders of magnitude smaller than any piece of 12 to 22 gauge copper wire more than a meter long. Secondly, there is no "balance" to the impedance seen by the amplifier. Each output sees a given impedance, and has a given impedance itself. In transmission lines, the impedance of the output device must be matched to the line impedance and to the impedance of the input device, in order to prevent reflections. However, in order to be considered a transmission line, the medium must be long compared to the wavelength of the signal. Unless you are running audio cables across the state, audio cables do not qualify. For line level applications (which is about what the original poster was inquiring), one must merely prevent any unnecessary EMI, and match the sensitivity of the receiver to the voltage of the transmitter. The impedances of the two do not usually have to match well at all, except that it is best if the transmitter has a LOWER impedance, and typically they range from about 500 Ohms to 100K. In speaker systems, however, the only considerations are power handling, which is covered by ratings, and seeing to it that the speaker moves as accurately as possible. A major factor preventing the speaker from doing so is the back emf generated by the speaker's motion itself. This is minimized by making the impedance of the amplifier, which includes the transmission leads, as small as possible WRT the speaker impedance. The ratio of the two is a measure of the amount of accuracy that can be obtained, and is called the damping factor, if I recall. MB> Modern solid state audio equipment runs two wires to each speaker MB> because there is no such thing as a "common" anymore. Nonsense. Many power amplifiers still use a common speaker ground. Bridged amplifiers do not, because they CANNOT. The original poster was talking about his line outputs, however, and those are unbalanced audio lines, which almost always have a common ground. MB> At one time, outputs were isolated through a transformer. To MB> save money and weight, especially in automotive electronics, this MB> is hardly ever done now. The reason it is hardly ever done is because audio transformers have rather poor responses, especially when bridged into low impedance devices such as speakers. It is true that today, high power solid state devices are cheaper than transformers, but this was not very true when the practice first began to be discontinued, a little over 20 years ago. Weight is not an issue, and in fact the heat sinks required because of the higher currents usually far outweigh the transformers. However, direct-coupled solid state devices today can deliver MUCH higher power and much better flatness and distortion specs than any transformer system. MB> The result is that SHORTING "GROUND" LEADS TOGETHER WILL DESTROY MB> AUDIO OUTPUT TRANSISTORS. Only on a bridged amplifier, and most bridged amps (being in expensive, high end audio gear) have protection circuits that prevent such problems. MB> transformer will isolate two stages by blocking DC bias. It is Yes, but few, if any, modern amps use transformers. However, output >> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 << >> Continued in next message << ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 10494 To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 12/27/93 1:26a Subj: PANASONIC 562 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 << >> Continued from previous message << capacitors will also block DC bias, even in bridged amplifiers. Only the cheapest systems use output capacitors, however, as they increase distortion and reduce the damping factor. MB> the presence of DC bias that will be responsible for frying the MB> output transistors if leads are shorted. Sure, but so what? GH> I'm a trained electronic engineer, and I won't stand for your Hmmm. Maybe. You sure made some glaring errors for an EE, though. Just for reference, I am a trained physicist, and formerly a practicing engineer with 15 years experience. These days I handle telecommunications, however. GH> Audio, as I MENTIONED, is Alternating Current... low frequency, GH> but still alternating. Well, this is pure semantics, but most engineers would consider audio, and indeed anything below 100KHz, to be DC, especially given the design of most audio power amplifiers, which are basically DC amplifiers. However, the distinction between DC and AC (as opposed to DC, RF, microwave, and above) is usually only applied to either power systems, in which case AF is HIGH FREQUENCY, or to transmission/filter systems, in which case AF is just DC. GH> you attempt to use a common ground on audio circuits (ignoring GH> whether we are dealing with tubes or transistors for the moment, GH> OK?), if you have dissimilar lengths of ground return paths, GH> and realizing that all alternating current MUST have a complete GH> circuit out and back (otherwise you wouldn't have any audio at GH> all - that's the part you slept through), then you must deal GH> with the problem of the length of the return path. I addressed this before. Unless your return path is several dozen Km long, the phase relationships will be immaterial. 10 meters is a LONG lead length, and that represents less than .02 degrees at 10KHz, which is totally insignificant. GH> length. The returning alternating currents will be slightly out GH> of phase (the exact point on the alternating current's sine wave GH> will be If you are--- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: Cyberia - The Final Stop In Cyberspace - 717-840-1444 (1:270/614) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NORM HILL Number: 10495 To: BRIAN ECKBLAD Date: 12/28/93 9:27a Subj: Re: Omni cd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BE>I have a Omni CD-ROM, I can not get it to load the driver MSCDEX "or BE>something like that" When I try to load the driver is says NOT ENOUGH BE>DRIVE LETTERS AVAILABLE. Well I can not get in touch with Creative BE>Labs Tech Support and their BBS does not answer. I have my HDD BE>sectioned in three parts C: D: and E: I am trying to get the CD ROM to BE>be Drive F:. I have set up MSCDEX like this BE>MSCDEK "PATH" /d:MSCD001 /L:f etc I ahve tried many different BE>combinations. It is driving me nuts. I have a SBPRO card and the CD is BE>hooked to it. I think it is installed properly because SBCD.sys BE>reconizes it during boot up. Well HELP! HELP! BE> BE>Thanks BE> BE>Brian Eckblad BE> BE>--- TBBS v2.1/NM BE> * Origin: The File Bank, Inc. (303) 534-4646 - Files, Files, Files BE>(1:104/899) Look in your Config.sys and make sure that there is not a statement in it saying LASTDRIVE=E. If so, then that is why you run out of drive letters. Norm Hill. --- MsgToss 2.0c! (r) * Origin: Intercity RBBS, Richmond VA.(21.6DS) (1:264/152) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL KELLY Number: 10496 To: DAVID RYDER Date: 12/28/93 7:28p Subj: mitsumi cd-rom and os/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (19 Dec 93) David Ryder wrote to David Kennedy... DR> DK> I have a cheep mitsumi cd-rom and nead a driver to get os/2 to use You can download that CD driver from the IBM BBS at 1-919-517-0001 as filename MITFX.ZIP for your Mitsumi CD-ROM drive. You will add the following line to your CONFIG.SYS in your root directory: BASEDEVICE=MITFX001.ADD That is all there is to it! I run OS/2 v2.1 here using a cheapo Mitsumi and it works fine. --- PPoint 1.70 * Origin: Mike's POINT of View (1:151/106.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL KELLY Number: 10497 To: JERRY MURPHY Date: 12/28/93 7:42p Subj: Mitsumi cd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (24 Dec 93) Jerry Murphy wrote to Brice Fleckenstein... JM> free) as I possibly can, as soon as I can. I've upgraded to OS/2, JM> JM> What suggestions do you have, short of trashing the Mitsumi (which JM> works really well ... and is paid for)? Perhaps this will help? Call 1-919-517-0001 (IBM BBS) and download the file MITFX.ZIP to get the latest Mitsumi CD-ROM drive OS/2 driver. Simply place the following in your OS/2 CONFIG.SYS file: BASEDEVICE=MITFX001.ADD and you will not need MSCDEX to access the CD-ROM drive from within OS/2. Hope this helps! --- PPoint 1.70 * Origin: Mike's POINT of View (1:151/106.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN CALLICRATE Number: 10498 To: RALPH LINDEMANN Date: 12/28/93 8:50p Subj: COREL SCSI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No If you can't get the drivers you want, I have for sale: - EZ-SCSI version 1.0 (5 1/4" disk) with Manual (both originals) - $25.00 or - EZ-SCSI version 2.03 (5 1/4" disk) NO manual! (disk is original) - $35.00 EZ-SCSI is software for Adaptec SCSI controllers, it has drivers for many CDROMS and other devices. I am interested in trades for the above, such as CDROMS with text materials. * MegaMail 2.10 #0: P.O. Box 6, Dallas, OR 503/623-4924 --- WM v3.10/93-0024 * Origin: Chemeketa Online BBS (503) 393-5580 1:3406/15 (1:3406/15.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE WALKER Number: 10499 To: ALL Date: 12/28/93 10:12p Subj: Mitsumi CD and the SB Pro Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have a potentially silly question. I've just installe3d a Mitsumi doublespeed drive and have a Soundblaster Pro (16) (before Creative Labs made multiple flavors of the SBPRO). How do I interface the two. I assume it a function of software but can find no reference to it in either the CD docs or the SB docs. Please send all responses to "Dazed and DESUFNOC" * SPITFIRE v3.4 * Database Connections BBS * Supporting dBASE, Clipper, and More! --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: Database Connections BBS * USR DS 16.8 * 713-980-3234 * (1:106/4196) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID SILVER Number: 10500 To: GEORGE VAISEY Date: 12/27/93 9:15p Subj: Encyclopedia Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi George, Saturday December 25 1993 00:14, George Vaisey wrote to Jeff Masterman: GV> Egghead is selling it (Encarta for $80) until the end of the year and GV> then it will go up to OVER $290. And DEFINITELY not worth it. I've used both pretty extensively and found the Software Toolworks version to beat it by a bunch. Searches in Encarta are slow and inexact and it's nigh on impossible to find sound bytes or videos. Very unthought out interface... David --- GoldED 2.42.G1114+ --- FastEcho+SBBS+InterMail * Origin: The Silverado <-> Heidelberg, Germany ZyXEL 19.2 (2:246/9717) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANCISCO CARRILLO Number: 10501 To: DAVID NAVARRO Date: 12/26/93 1:19p Subj: CD cache Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ¡ Hola David ! El Domingo, 19 de Dic de 1993, a las 13 y 04, David Navarro escribió a All: DN> Hello, I have a sony CDU 31A CD-ROM, and some one tell me that DN> there's a soft cache for speed it. I try with the ms-dos 6.2 smartdrv DN> and the pctools 8 pc-cache. Some one knows another better? Smartdrive 5.0 is very poor for cd caching. Try "Lightning/CD" of Lucid Corporation (is commercial, but is really good!). % fran % Quartz BBS --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Quartz BBS * (93)276-4345 * Barcelona * ZyX+ 19k2 (2:343/130) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID NAVARRO Number: 10502 To: JAN HOLZNAGEL Date: 12/26/93 7:10p Subj: Re: CD cache Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thank's for the solutions but is too late i sold my "old" CD and the next wednesday i'd have a new Mitsumi 300 Kb/s i hope that it was the CD of my dreams . And another question . Were are you from?? I'm from Spain and i want to know if in your country are CD's i your respective language. Here in Spain is really dificult find a soft in Spanish the olny two i know are two stories for childrens , but the Rebelt assault, sherlock holmes and others... no coment... Thank's Falcon (David Navarro)... --- * Origin: Natural World BBS - 34-3-278-0556 (2:343/131) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JESUS MEDINA Number: 10503 To: TIM HAYWOOD Date: 12/26/93 3:51p Subj: C= CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Tim! Domingo 19 de Diciembre de 1993, Tim Haywood writes to All: TH> Can anyone please tell me whether the Apple CD300 (is that correct?) will TH> work with a Commodore Amiga A1200 equipped with a standard SCSI-1 TH> interface? TH> Does the Apple CD drive use a standard SCSI connection and does anyone TH> know of any driver software that I could use. Probably, you can use the Apple CD300 with the Amiga with a Sony driver. The Apple CD is a Sony 8001 drive. You can use any 80xx driver, but propably you can't play music CD's in the drive, but you can use it like a CD-ROM drive. I've not noticed that exists a driver for Amiga to use cd Apple CD300. Bye, Jesus --- GoldED/P32 2.42.G1219 * Origin: - Jesús Medina *Madrid (Spain)* - (2:341/19.52) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LOTHAR KUENZEL Number: 10504 To: ED CORREIA Date: 12/28/93 12:12a Subj: Re: Cinemania Problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi, ED! 24 Dec 93 13:55, ED CORREIA wrote to HEATHER KRAUSE: EC> Actually, I have Tseng drivers for 16 and 256 colors and a variety of EC> resulutions, unfortunately the problems persist. I was told by the Microsoft people on CIS that you are limited to 800x600 pixels. Have you tried Microsofts Hotline? Even though, I run Cinemania with 1024x768 pixels on a Hercules Graphite Pro/VL and it works fine, except, that the picture is a little too small. Sorry, I couldn't be of better assistance. Tschuess, See You later, Au Revoir, Ciao, Lothar P.S.: I wish everybody to have a Happy new Year. --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: DOWNTOWN * Guetersloh * Germany * +49-5241-340638 (2:243/6171.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN CLEAVER Number: 10505 To: ALL Date: 12/27/93 9:29a Subj: CD-I Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi All, I stuck a CD-I disk in my CD-ROM drive recently and it was a readable DOS disk. Next question: Is there any CD-I emulation available for CD-ROM drives? Bye, Martin. --- The-Box Point 0.15+ PC * Origin: Artnet Sysop Point (2:280/204.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC FERLEY Number: 10506 To: DARREN A. KORMAN Date: 12/27/93 4:00a Subj: Rpg vs. all out carnage! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Just a question, how many of you preffer "role playing" to just > killing things? I do! Eric. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: E.Ferley-Orleans/France-V32b/V42b-NOT CM! Fido@ (2:321/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BARTA Number: 10507 To: BOB DUNN Date: 12/28/93 10:59a Subj: Wanted Beatles CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BD>WOW! Give me some details! How does it look? Is it To be honest with you Bob, I've investigated it very little. We appear to have a problem with Apple's Quick Time for windoze, and our Sound Blaster driver (there are known incompatibilities mentioned in the "read me" file on the CD-ROM.) We get the first bar of the song, then nothing, and no movie! However, we can view the stills, the script and everything else that goes with it not related to sound or full motion. Tried getting newer drivers off the Creative Labs support bbs, however, they didn't seem to help. Will be making contact sometime in the near future with the folks who publish the CD-ROM. Sorry I can't be of more help to you. John ___ X DeLuxe2 1.26b #47 X --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Hartmann's 1-509-884-(7803)/{0639} HST DS {1:344/2} & (1:344/60) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LOU PETRALIA Number: 10508 To: *********** FREE HUGE CD- Date: 12/26/93 1:06p Subj: FOR THE LARGEST SELEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting *********** Free Huge Cd- to All <=- *FHC> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us. *FHC> We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request. *FHC> CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available) Please forward me a list Lou Petralia 18 James St Hopelawn, NJ 08861 ... "I drank WHAT!?" - Socrates ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: MicroFone 14 Gigs 16 Lines V.32b 908-494-8666 (1:107/331) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 10509 To: JERRY THOMSON Date: 12/29/93 11:54a Subj: 6 DISK CHANGERS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jerry Thomson wrote in a message to Scott Redman: JT> I just found a place that will sell me the DMR-600A for JT> $741 which includes everthing including the card, cables and JT> case. Ready to hook right up. Does that sound like an ok JT> price? I have 8 Hitachi 3600 drives in an external case with power supply, caddies, drives, cables, controller card ...the works! Over a $1,000 value for the special package price of $960 INCLUDING shipping and c.o.d. These used drives are in the BEST condition I have ever seen (and I have sold over 500 Hitachi internals). They come with a 30 day warranty. With this deal you can have 8 individual drives rather than 6 ...which will work faster and more efficient than a changer AND if your changer has a problem you are dead until you can get if fixed but if a 3600 has a problem you still have 7 working drives while repairs are being made. Call 205-824-2552 --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 10510 To: ALL Date: 12/29/93 12:04p Subj: Hitachi 3600 cd rom drives $99 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hitachi cd rom drives model 3600 (that's right model 3600) $99 each. Access time 350 ms. Transfer rate 150 kb/s. These EXCELLENT drives can be daisy-chained up to 8 on each propitiatory controller card. Total for an 8 drive setup assembled in case with p/s and interface, cables, caddies, ready to plug in and play... including shipping c.o.d. (A $1,000 value) ALL for only $960 4 drive setup as above.... A $560 value special offer .....$530 30 day warranty. Orders are shipped c.o.d. Call voice 205-824-2552 --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALLEN DIETZ Number: 10511 To: ALL Date: 12/27/93 7:28p Subj: Used CD-ROM discs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have the following *used* (lightly) CD-ROM discs for sale. All are in excellent condition. Please call me at (512) 444-9822 and leave a message if you're interested. Prices do not include $3.00 per order for shipping in the U.S. (No C.O.D.) Wildcat Gold, Vol. 4, No. 2 (Shareware) $10.00 The Bible Library (Ellis Enterprises) $20.00 Microsoft Works for Windows $20.00 Lotus 1-2-3 with Multimedia SmartHelp (Release 1.1) $25.00 Microsoft Publisher (version 1.0) $25.00 Learn to Speak Spanish (Hyperglot) (2-disc set) $25.00 Allen Dietz (512) 444-9822 * OLX 2.2 * --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Hub/2 (1:382/1201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BYRON KROHN Number: 10512 To: ALL Date: 12/29/93 3:20p Subj: Sound Card Tech. Info. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I need some technical dope regarding 8 bit vs 16 bit sound cards. As I understand it ALL sound cards convert digital sound with a 16 bit D to A converter. Also 16 bit cards convert analog sound to digital using a 16 bit A to D network. (ie 65,536 levels). But an 8 bit card converts using only 2^8 bits or 256 levels. It seems to me that unless a user is doing professional level AtoD conversion, (ie digitally recording analog sound, NOT reproducing it only) that an 8 bit unit would perform as well as a 16. When I ask others they all tell me that 16 bit boards "sound much better". I cannot tell the difference, (I have a "tin-ear" from submarine SONAR watch-standing and from shooting in the days before we knew to wear muffs. Can any of you technical gurus and/or mavins shed any light on this for me??? TNX to all! Byron--- ___ X CmpQwk #UNREGX UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Hub/2 (1:382/1201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SCOTT STADLER Number: 10513 To: ALL Date: 12/29/93 9:15a Subj: seventh guest Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No How do you solve the cans in the cupboard puzzle? Thanks Scott --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Icarus BBS (1:283/657) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THE LAWMAN Number: 10514 To: WAYNE FINLAY Date: 12/29/93 2:52a Subj: Multiple Cd-rom w/ BBS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> How much do disk changers go for? Also, how does the computer access -> the CD's all seen as being on one drive? That is, if you have CD's A, -> D; if you want to access CD A, does it have its own drive letter, lik -> CD B, CD C and CD D. -> -> Cheer-I/O! -> > Wayne < -> -> -> --- Maximus 2.01wb -> * Origin: Not Found, should I fake (Y,N)> (1:250/242) Boy, got some questions there. Disk changers where I live at is $795 thereabouts and the SCSI controller card was $160. A and B are always floppy drives and C and almost always D is assigned to hard drives. There is a software driver that you load that will assign whatever drive letter you want to assign the cdrom drive from E to Z. An example would be like MSC001 may be assigned to drive E and MSC002 assigned to drive F and so on. Now, with SCSI devices, you can daisy chain 7 devices whether they be 6 disk changers or hard drives. My situation is that I'll hook up this 6 disk changer to my networked bbs system that already has 2 IDE hard drives on the bbs and 1 IDE with a tape drive on the other system. The bbs drives, starting with the 1st hard drive is drive H, 2nd hard drive is I, then my cdrom drives load up as J, K, L. I will do away with the 3 internal cdrom drives (since each has its own device driver and takes up more memory) and put in the 6 disk changer which will use only 1 driver and being a SCSI device will assign drive letters J, K, L, M, N, and O, and make life for me easier. I could go into more detail here but it would take up too much time and alot more space. If you are interested in starting a bbs, talk to your local computer hardware store where you may be doing your business with and talk to them, just keep in mind these people have to sell to do business and talk is cheap. I've found that once you start dealing with a business they are more willing to tell you more and I like developing a personal relationship with the people I deal with (plus giving them free membership to the bbs doesn't hurt as well as give them free advertising, after awhile they sometimes donate equipment for advertising purposes as a tax write off, it might be old or used/rebuilt but hey, if I can use it I will). Not that I'm trying to pass off your questions as they are good questions, see if you can find someone local or I'll also suggest subscribing to computer magazines such as Novice or something like that. In short though, the bbs like wildcat will copy a file to the hard drive from the cd disk for downloading by the person that marked it and when its done it will erase it from the hard drive. I hope I explain it as simple as I can but I taught myself almost everything by reading every book I can get my hands on and over a period of time you will find guys near where you work or live who are computer nuts like us and maybe they can take more time to explain it than I did here. --- WM v3.01/93-0705 * Origin: Emerald City (615) 754-4351 7 gigs, 5 nodes (1:116/39.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THE LAWMAN Number: 10515 To: JIM CLEMENTS Date: 12/29/93 2:56a Subj: 6 Disk Cd-Rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> Get a Pioneer 604x 6-disc changer. It is 185ms & has a DTR of 600 -> -> don't know where exactly, but is Computer Shopper, I've seen it fo -> -> paid $1339. It really flies. It is SCSI II compatable. I know s -> -> of these. That's 42 drives! -> -> TL>That's a lot of money for one when I just bought mine yesterday fo -> TL>from our local sysop dealer supplier, scsi card was $160 so just u -> TL>$1000 gets the whole works from Emerald City Electronics in Mt. Ju -> TL>TN 615-754-9552 -> -> -> That is an excellent price for a 604X -- I take it you did mean a 604 -> and not the earlier 600 or newer 602X? In fact it is less than Pionee -> was selling the 604X to the press just a year ago. -> --- -> * DeLuxe* 1.12 #4703 * -> --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' -> * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) Couldn't really tell ya since I didn't bother asking and I trust the dealer will sell me the best he's got as he ordered it the day I told him to get it. I'll ask him though later in the morning which one it is. Personally as long as it will hold 6 cd's and do what I want it to do is find with me, even if it takes 5 sec's to change from one drive to another. --- WM v3.01/93-0705 * Origin: Emerald City (615) 754-4351 7 gigs, 5 nodes (1:116/39.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN ECKBLAD Number: 10516 To: KEVIN MARTIN Date: 12/28/93 6:47p Subj: Re: OMNI CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thanks It worked Brian --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: The File Bank, Inc. (303) 534-4646 - Files, Files, Files (1:104/899) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICKY BOOTH Number: 10517 To: TOM GUELKER Date: 12/28/93 7:20p Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > That's your opinion, Ricky. I run a BBS and have had two Mitsumi Yes, it sure is. --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: KFS Programming -HQ- ...Mail Only... (1:170/359) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAWRENCE MINTZ Number: 10518 To: JERRY MURPHY Date: 12/28/93 9:35a Subj: Mitsumi cd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Being a man of the world, and knowledgeable on most > aspects of this hobby, perhaps you know of any > possible suitable substitutes for MSCDEX? I'm trying > to make my system as bug-free (read Microshaft- free) > as I possibly can, as soon as I can. I've upgraded to > OS/2, installed that SUPERIOR PCDOS 6.1, and off'ed > all the MS junk I could find anywhere it hid in my > system. In spite of your purge of bug-free software, you still have software from that dreaded company as long as you have PC-DOS since that other company wrote MOST of the code within it (IBM only revised some of it to meet their needs) and as long as you continue to have WIN-OS2 support in OS/2. There may even be code written by them in the kernal, command interpreter, and some if not all of the commands of OS/2 as well (I don't know the exact breakdown on which company produced what for OS/2, and how much was retained when the two companies went their separate ways.) If you are running PC-DOS under OS/2, you don't need MSCDEX. It is only necessary when you boot a DOS as opposed to an OS/2 system. And no, I don't know of any suitable substitute. Larry --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: Mintz BBS, Silver Spring, MD (1:109/427.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAWRENCE MINTZ Number: 10519 To: ALEX MOTTRAM Date: 12/28/93 5:05p Subj: NIGHT OWL 10 VIRUS REPORT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Sounds like I should be in the programming business > (or not). :) I wonder > what's worth $600k on night owl's anyway? Not the > shell I hope <grin>.. It probably is the shell. Contract programming costs real money. After all, the programmer doing the work needs to eat too. Programming a shell is not a 30 minute programming task, no matter how bad it appears to the users (batch programs mascarading as shells excluded.) Then, of course, the programmer may have clauses for revenue based upon the number of copies sold. The $600k quoted may include penalties and damages over and above the original contract stipulated payment(s). Double or triple damages are not unheard of in legal circles. Larry --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: Mintz BBS, Silver Spring, MD (1:109/427.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM SCHOOLER Number: 10520 To: REMY DE.RUYSSCHER Date: 12/28/93 1:05a Subj: Re: Encyclopedia Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Rd> But I would prefer ENCARTA'94 because it has MUCH MUCH more Rd> articles Rd> and animations (and it's from MS so it has to be good!).... I have both Remy, and actually, the Grolier's/STW is a better reference tool, and it runs much better under OS/2 (no surprise). But for purse Multi-Media titillation, Encarta is it. --- Sqed/32 0.87/r15033 * Origin: You Are What You Is (1:3803/1.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 10521 To: ALL Date: 12/28/93 7:19p Subj: MAC CD-ROMS FOR SALE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No December 1993 MACINTOSH CD-ROM PRICE LIST Last update: 12/11 American Girls (New!).........34.00 Mac Shareware.................19.00 Audubon's Birds...............23.00 Majestic Places...............38.50 Beauty and the Beast..........25.00 Peter and the Wolf............25.00 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00 Shakespeare...................17.50 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.00 Total Baseball 1992...........24.00 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00 Wild Places...................24.00 Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...29.00 World View....................24.00 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs. 509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!) * SLMR 2.1a * ... He who hesitates is frost. - Eskimo proverb --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 10522 To: ALL Date: 12/28/93 7:19p Subj: HOTTEST NEW SHAREWARE CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No | Title: CD POWERBOX 2 Price: $29 | 1. CD Powerbox 2 + CD Powerbox 1.01 (no dupes!)........................$35 2. CD Powerbox 2 + CD Winbox 1.01......................................$45 3. CD Powerbox 2 + OS/2Box.............................................$45 SUPER SPECIAL: ALL FOUR DISCS (Powerbox 1 & 2, OS/2Box, and Winbox)....$55 600+mb of only 1993 files! Features Universal Graphic User Interface! STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs. 509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!) * SLMR 2.1a * Picard and Riker in '96! --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOUG BARTHOLOMEW Number: 10523 To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 12/29/93 3:21p Subj: BUNDLE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Do you have a Night Owl bundle with all of the Night Owl series CD's? I am looking for Night Owl 4 thru 10. Also, what is the price? Doug Bartholomew --- GEcho/Frontdoor * Origin: Hog Country *Home of the ARKANSAS Razorbacks* (1:391/1180.9) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE GERVASI Number: 10524 To: TONY WILLIAMS Date: 12/28/93 11:41p Subj: Freeing up space Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Then it happened...... TWDoes anyone know of anyway that I can access more upper memory to load TWsome other files so that I have more room in conventional? My cd-rom that TWjust installed is running its driver in upper memory putting other driver TWother files running in conventional. This causes me to have limited capac TWrunning programs requiring 512k or more of convetional memory. Any ideas? Well if your not running QEMM 7.0 or using 6.0 and higher's Memmaker, that's the place to start. If you are, then you'll have to mess around with exceptions and Stealth mode (QEMM) to max your conventional memory. If you're like me and have done all this, and still don't have enough, then you'll need to add more RAM. Hope this helps:) Mike Mike * Wave Rider 1.0 [NR] * ... UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- Blue Wave/Maximus * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE GERVASI Number: 10525 To: BRIAN ECKBLAD Date: 12/29/93 12:05a Subj: OMNI CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Then it happened......BEI have a Omni CD-ROM, I can not get it to load the driver MSCDEX "or BEsomething like that" When I try to load the driver is says NOT ENOUGH DRI BELETTERS AVAILABLE. Well I can not get in touch with Creative Labs Tech BESupport and their BBS does not answer. I have my HDD sectioned in three BEparts C: D: and E: I am trying to get the CD ROM to be Drive F:. I have s BEMSCDEX like this BEMSCDEK "PATH" /d:MSCD001 /L:f etc I ahve tried many different BEcombinations. It is driving me nuts. I have a SBPRO card and the CD is ho BEto it. I think it is installed properly because SBCD.sys reconizes it dur BEup. Has the Autoexec.bat file been changed to reflect the new drive letter? It should say Lastdrive=f (or Z). If not you won't be able to have more than the specified letters. See if that helps:) Mike BEThanks BEBrian Eckblad BE--- TBBS v2.1/NM BE * Origin: The File Bank, Inc. (303) 534-4646 - Files, Files, Files (1:10 Mike * Wave Rider 1.0 [NR] * ... UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- Blue Wave/Maximus * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW Number: 10526 To: ANDREW BARNHARDT Date: 12/29/93 12:01p Subj: Canadian CD Distributor?? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Andrew Barnhardt wrote * ********************************* ***Hey.. *** ***I'm looking for a Canadian CD-ROM (disc) distributor. Netmail me a catalo ***at the address in the tagline or mail it to me @: ***No adults-only distributors! ********************************* Hi, Andrew: I'll put one in the mail for you today. At HRB Computer Services, we have about 900 titles available (No adult-only material). If you have access to CRS Online (416) 213-6002 you can download our current price list called HRBCD9.ZIP. Either way you should have it shortly. Thanks Hayden Bradshaw HRB Computer Services 14 Hollis Crescent Holland Landing, ON L9N 1E7 Information & Fax Line: (905) 830-1615 Orders Only: 1-800-265-7081 --- * TLX v3.30 * Are you a Klingon, or is that a turtle on your head? * --- * SLMR 2.1a * --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON DADSWELL Number: 10527 To: BRYAN ANSLOW Date: 12/28/93 3:24p Subj: Windows and PC's Cr*p Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BA> for instance Windows which seems BA> to have no hardware error recovery whatsoever with the tiniest I/O BA> error on a floppy disk causing an immediate exit to DOS. BA> Next, the minimum swap file size requirement for Kodak is said to BA> be 12Mb, I have 8Mb RAM and two 100Mb drives, both stacked, with a BA> 17 Mb unstacked area free on one of them which houses an 8Mb BA> swapfile. Try as I can I cannot get windows to use any more than BA> 8Mb of the space so I cannot allocate a 12Mb swap file, even though BA> there is space for one, so I set up a temporary 17Mb one. And on and on... (this is a CD-ROM echo) BA> What do the rest of you think? Get a REAL operating system, run OS/2. ___ X KWQ/2 1.2b X If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test (KWQ Beta --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Live Via Satellite - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEVIN BRUNER Number: 10528 To: JULIEN PIERRE Date: 12/29/93 1:32p Subj: Re: Rebel Assault Patch Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Julien Pierre to Kevin Bruner <=- JP> It's available as REBFIX.ZIP from 2:320/215 or 2:320/217. Thanks for the offer, but I already downloaded it from the LucasArts BBS in California. JP> But this patch doesn't solve many problems for me ... Hmm... it seems to work no problems for me. 99% of the lockups were on the Star Destroyer scene, and I can see now the software looks like it's about to lockup (it pauses for about a second) as I make another attack run at the side I started on, but it keeps going. JP> ! Origin: ChaOS/2 BBS near Paris, France - +33-1-30472762 (2:320/215) Wow, Paris! I had no idea this was an international echo! Since you're in France, you might be able to help me... I believe COKTEL VISION is a French company, and Sierra distributes their games in the US... do you know if INCA CD is any good? I'm listening to the soundtrack CD as I type, and it's GREAT! Thanks! -+ Kevin +- ... Yoda of Borg am I! Assimilated you will be! Futile, resistance is! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Phantom's Lair BBS (904)286-5575 (1:3608/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VAISEY Number: 10529 To: DAVID SILVER Date: 12/29/93 8:21p Subj: Encyclopedia Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > And DEFINITELY not worth it. I've used both pretty extensively and > found the Software Toolworks version to beat it by a bunch. Searches in > Encarta are slow and inexact and it's nigh on impossible to find sound bytes > or videos. Very unthought out interface... Well, I still think that it is a good one. Although my parents bought it for me for Christmas I don't plan on returning it aslong as I like it AND it works for me. Thank you for your imput and for listening to my $.02. George --- GEcho/786 1.01+ * Origin: LakeShore Lmtd. (Rochester, NY * USA) (1:2613/353) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 10530 To: PIETROPAOLO BIANCHI Date: 12/30/93 7:08p Subj: U.S. CD-ROM Software Refer: 12951 Read: NO Private: No -> MB> European Dealers and Swiss Endusers. If you are intersted in che -> MB> CD-ROM Software like Rebel Assault, Mad Dog McCree, Night Owl's -> MB> Hellcab, Kings Quest VI and all the other new stuff for your CD- -> MB> contact us. Foreign countrys only dealers and quanity 20 cd's mi -> MB> match. Swiss Customers any quanity. Call our BBS and get our pri -> -> Please STOP this uninformative COMMERCIAL CRAP within our amateur net -> will file a complaint against you at the Z2EC level, or at the area m -> if it turns out there is one. -> -> Bianki -> 331/307 Who in the hell are you? For your information, commercial crap IS allowed! tim co-moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACK WIGGINS Number: 10531 To: GEORGE VAISEY Date: 12/28/93 2:40a Subj: BATTLE CHESS FOR SALE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > From: GEORGE VAISEY To: ALL Subj: BATTLE CHESS FOR SALE * > Forwarded from "Cd-Rom For Sale Conference" --Someone was > looking for battle chess. Here is the listing. > Hope you can use it! Thanks! Yes, I sure can use it. Right now I'm trying to find out if battle chess requires a svga or will run with my plain vanilla vga. On the other hand, I'm getting an order together for several other titles anyway. 8) --- TMail v1.31.1 * Origin: Treasure Chest ML-TBBS - South Bend, IN (219) 234-8004 (1:227/3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEITH MAUPIN Number: 10532 To: JOE RINEHART Date: 12/28/93 4:30p Subj: Re: CD-ROM DRIVES+ Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No How weould you refurbish one of those drives? Keith --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: Showcase Home Improvement Inc. (513) 528-7018 (1:108/255) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF KEY Number: 10533 To: RICHARD ROSENFELD Date: 12/28/93 6:14p Subj: Audio-CD and list of tra Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No And RICHARD ROSENFELD said unto ALL .... RR>I have been testing my new Chinon 535 CD-ROM drive and all seems to RR>be working fine except when I play audio CD's. The List of tracks RR>is always incorrect after the 8th track approximately. Somehow a RR>tracks few blank are inserted, then a track with a long lenth, and RR>tracks then the last 2 of the CD listed correctly.(but with the RR>incorrect track numbers) If I play the Audio-CD from beginning to RR>end, it plays correctly, skipping the incorrect tracks! RR>Anyone know whats up? What is the fix? It might be the player.. What one are you using? Have you tried any other programs? A popular one (the one I use, too) in WinCD.. It's great.. Looks like a CD player, catalogs, program it, etc., etc.. I got it w/3 other discs for $35.. (it came with ROMaterial, MPC Wizard 2.0, and some karioke disc.. not bad for under 40 bones..) Good luck to ya.. Jeff Key Internet - jeffreykey@aol.com * CmpQwk #UNREG * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- WM v3.10/91-0237 * Origin: The Oratory BBS 12 Roms online 72,000+ Files! (1:2201/9.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF KEY Number: 10534 To: MIKE GERVASI Date: 12/28/93 6:21p Subj: Re: T7G Maze Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No And MIKE GERVASI said unto STEAN SNYMAN.... MG> -=> Quoting Stean Snyman to All <=- MG> SS> Please don't tell me I need to figure out that MAZE in t7g?.. MG> SS> Isn't there an easier way?.. (I HATE mazes, and I don't classify MG> SS> them as puzzles :)) MG> I noticed when I was doing the Chess puzzle (the one with the MG> bishops) that the rug in front of it has a map of a maze on it. MG> Could this be for the one you're speaking of? MG> Mike You're both right.. The maze on the carpet is the maze from above.. Like the blueprints for it.. You'll come across the real maze later on and you better hope you copied down the blueprint version cause it's a pain.. Jeff Key Internet - jeffreykey@aol.com * CmpQwk #UNREG * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- WM v3.10/91-0237 * Origin: The Oratory BBS 12 Roms online 72,000+ Files! (1:2201/9.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF KEY Number: 10535 To: KYLE MACHULIS Date: 12/28/93 6:23p Subj: Trouble... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No And KYLE MACHULIS said unto ALL .... KM>Havin problems.... I'm tring to run the SOFTWARE TOOLWORKS MULTIMEDIA KM>ENCYCLOPEDIA 1992... And when I try to run video.. It says KM>INSUFFECENT MEMORY.... Yet i have QEMM running, and have 645k free... KM>How do I get this to run right? How much extended memory do you have total? You're probably running out of TOTAL memory, not conventional.. Jeff Key Internet - jeffreykey@aol.com * CmpQwk #UNREG * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- WM v3.10/91-0237 * Origin: The Oratory BBS 12 Roms online 72,000+ Files! (1:2201/9.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROSS FOCKE Number: 10536 To: KEN DUKE Date: 12/29/93 8:46a Subj: Re: LU005 Mitsumi CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KD> What is the best Sound card to buy with a CD-ROM interface built on th KD> for this type CD-ROM drive? KD> I've been looking for one priced right, but don't know which one to bu _______________________________________________________________________ Ken, There is no "best sound card" just cards that certain people like best. I have a Sound Blaster 16 ASP and love it. Great sound quality and SB is the standard just look around. Picked it up for about $200 six months ago. They are now making a board that has multi interfaces so you can use a Mitsumi, Panasonic, and quite a few other CDRom drives with it. Check it out! Ross Focke --- QM v1.00 * Origin: Capitol City BBS (909)931-0533 HST14.4DS : (1:218/201.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CARL REEK Number: 10537 To: THOMAS WARDMAN Date: 12/29/93 8:36a Subj: Mitsumi/Windows NT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I'll try not to get too far off topic. It's worked extremely well for my needs and I was very impressed with the network tools, security, and the overall robustness. Not happy with the limitations of hardware, but the same was true for OS/2. Hope something will be done soon for drivers to run current hardware (namely my Mitsumi CDRom). Thanks for the note and happy CDing. Happy Holidays! --- WM v3.10/92-0004 * Origin: The Computer Room-Pickerington, Oh (614)861-8377 (1:226/110) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE RINEHART Number: 10538 To: ALL Date: 12/29/93 2:35a Subj: !free Cd catalog! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!************* For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog... If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us. We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request. CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available) Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176 Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc. Voice: (216) 296-9831 - 24 hours P.O. Box 27 Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244 Kent, Ohio 44240-0001 >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<< --- MsgToss 2.0c * Origin: Home of config.sys, Inc.-Discount CD's-Kent, Oh (1:157/479) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE RINEHART Number: 10539 To: ALL Date: 12/29/93 2:35a Subj: Cd-rom Drives+ Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ********* Refurbished Hitachi Model 3600 CD-ROM DRIVES $130 ********* ********* Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $120 ********* ********* Refurbished SCSI NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $130 ********* These units are also available needing refurbished at 50% off! Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs! Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176 Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc. Voice: (216) 296-9831 - 24 hours P.O. Box 27 Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244 Kent, Ohio 44240-0001 >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<< --- MsgToss 2.0c * Origin: Home of config.sys, Inc.-Discount CD's-Kent, Oh (1:157/479) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHAD REID Number: 10540 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 12/29/93 5:43a Subj: NIGHT OWL 10 VIRUS REPORT Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No 00MS>CR>MS>This latest lawsuit was filed by their former programmer, who is claim MS>CR>MS>damages as result of non-payment. MS>CR>How many times has Night Owl been sued? MS>I don't know the exact number, so I won't comment. MS>.\\ike I think that I've heard about ten alone just out of this conference. Chad * OLX 2.2 * Honesty is the worst policy (is this MR policy?) --- QM v1.31 * Origin: The Idiot Box RBBS-PC =+> 1-800-295-2943 (1:207/703.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHAD REID Number: 10541 To: SAM FIGUEROA Date: 12/29/93 5:44a Subj: MORTAL KOMBAT PC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SF>KD>BK> I got a demo type version from a friend but its not as good as the SF>KD>BK> ones in the stores or the ones that will be coming out by the time SF>KD>BK> you read this. I have seen ads for a new commanche add on SF>KD>BK> disk and it looks cool saw it in electronic game review and cd rom SF>KD>BK> entertainment. talk to you later bye. SF>KD>I've got the real thing.. and the sound, color, graphics is just great.. SF>KD>The chars. are exactly correct with the other game companies.. SF>KD>--- GEcho 1.00 SF>KD> * Origin: Super Systems Sportster 14.4K 615-847-9824 (1:116/7) SF> Where in the world did you find Mortal Kombat for the PC, I have heard SF> many people saying that they have it! Would ya be willing to send me a SF> copy of it! Is it commercial or what? Sam, I saw it in Babbage's the other day for $44 dollars. It is commercial, if you can get it for the Sega or Super Nintendo, get it like that, the graphics on the back of the box didn't look to hot, maybe they will bring it out on CD-ROM and it will be three times better than on the Sega or Nintendo. Chad * OLX 2.2 * Save trees, eat beavers. --- QM v1.31 * Origin: The Idiot Box RBBS-PC =+> 1-800-295-2943 (1:207/703.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHAD REID Number: 10542 To: LANE WEISS Date: 12/29/93 5:44a Subj: Police Quest Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LW>Anyone know when Police Quest IV for CD-ROM is coming out?? LW>Lane Weiss It will be out in January, I believe towards the middle of January. I already have the disk version and it's a great game, I'm already stuck, beating two other Police Quest series I though I new it all, after three hours I'm lost. Chad * OLX 2.2 * "Love hurts" -- John Bobbitt --- QM v1.31 * Origin: The Idiot Box RBBS-PC =+> 1-800-295-2943 (1:207/703.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAWRENCE MINTZ Number: 10543 To: NORM HILL Date: 12/28/93 11:26p Subj: Cr-562 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > LM>The instructions say to make a copy of disk 1 (the second disk, since > LM>IBM likes to start their count at zero,) add the device driver to the > LM>root directory and edit the config.sys file to add the line > LM>"BASEDEV=<drivername>" to the end of the file. Then boot using disk 0 > LM>and then disk 1. If it still is not recognized, you need to talk with > LM>Creative Labs, since it is obviously not supported by IBM if the file > LM>didn't come from them. > Already tried IBM and Creative Labs, it seems that no > one can answer my > question. I download the driver for OS/2 2.1 from the > Creative Labs BBS > but when installed as the directions specify, it gives > a message > "OSO0001.MSG file not found" or something to that > effect. The CD-ROM > works fine in DOS. Tried Panasonic and they are not > going to support > the drive until March of 1994. That sounds like what mine did before I installed the Trantor SCSI controller support in MY OS/2 system. Your Panasonic CR-562 is DIRECTLY supported (at least the documentation claims this) in the BETA "Corrective Service Disk" for OS/2 2.1. If you are willing to call IBM and spend an additional $14.95 plus sales taxes, they will send you a copy to evaluate. I'd quote the phone number but, unfortunately, I am at home and the number was left in the office. The $14.95 includes two day priority mail shipment. Larry --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: Mintz BBS, Silver Spring, MD (1:109/427.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RAY MATTHEWS Number: 10544 To: STEAN SNYMAN Date: 12/29/93 5:20p Subj: t7G help needed (Again :)) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * in a message to All <27 Dec 93 00:12> Stean Snyman wrote: SS> Hello All! SS> Now i'm stuck at the puzzle with the SS> blocks that falls down (Its as easy as one SS> two three).. (See if you can get from a to b, by using only what SS> you see, Or whatever)... I can't go back to get a hint (The door SS> is nailed shut), and I can't seem to grasp the idea after it... SS> (PLEASE don't tell me how to do everything, else the challenge is lost :)) SS> Thanks SS> Stean Here's a hint. Every third block you step on must be purple, and the last block you step on at the finish must also be the third block. --- * Origin: Oh no! My tagline is umop apisdn! 73 de N9LHF (RA 1:2270/233.30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DONNIE RAYNOR Number: 10545 To: BRIAN ECKBLAD Date: 12/29/93 3:52a Subj: Re: OMNI CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Brian Eckblad wrote ╒═══════════════════════════════╕ ▒▌░I have a Omni CD-ROM, I can not get it to load the driver MSCDEX "or ▒▌░something like that" When I try to load the driver is says NOT ENOUGH ▒▌░DRIVE LETTERS AVAILABLE. Well I can not get in touch with Creative ▒▌░Labs Tech Support and their BBS does not answer. I have my HDD ▒▌░sectioned in three parts C: D: and E: I am trying to get the CD ROM to ▒▌░be Drive F:. I have set up MSCDEX like this MSCDEK "PATH" /d:MSCD001 ▒▌░/L:f etc I ahve tried many different combinations. It is driving me ▒▌░nuts. I have a SBPRO card and the CD is hooked to it. I think it is ▒▌░installed properly because SBCD.sys reconizes it during boot up. Well ▒▌░HELP! HELP! ▒▌░Thanks ▒▌░ ╘═══════════════════════════════╛ Brian you will have to use the lastdrive command in your config.sys file. Just look in your DOS manual and it will explain. LASTDRIVE=F Whoop!...There it is. ... I just steal 'em, I don't explain 'em. ■ Bwave 2.12 TLX v3.10 ■ --- RaPro201+/GEcho1.01+ * Origin: Jail House Blues(804)737-3180 Ra2.01/Pro+/Gecho1.01+ (1:264/188) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NORM HILL Number: 10546 To: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE Date: 12/29/93 11:47a Subj: Re: Panasonic 562/at bus i Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CS>Mike Mazzola@1:387/307 meinte am 21.12.93 CS>zum Thema "Panasonic 562/AT Bus interface card": CS> MM>I'm having a problem with what I believe to be a Panasonic 562/563b CS>CD MM>drive unit I just recieved From Multimedia in San Francisco. I CS>ordered the MM>bare drive and AT bus interface card. After installing the drivers CS>I get: MM>'Warning No SCSI Host adaptors detected' and 'No TSLCD functions in CS>use MM>Driver aborting.' Although the drive is suppose to be Panasonic MM>the CS>logo MM>on the tray reads CREATIVE SB{Sound Blaster} with nothing idenifing CS>it as a MM>562 or Panasonic. The manual says CR-563-B but the only CS>information(?) on MM>the Drive reads MATSUSHITA-KOTOBUKI ELECTRONICS INDUSTRIES LTD. MM>Made CS>in MM>Japan LMQLS0420. If the problem is the AT bus card, is there some CS>utility MM>that will ID the Drive and verify the model? Thanks for any CS>information or CS> CS> I think the CD ROM you have needs a SBPRO or a SB16 as the CS>Controller CS> You can't use it with at normal I/O AT-BUT Controller Card ! CS> CS>Bye CS> Chris CS> CS> CS>--- CrossPoint v2.92 CS> * Origin: How is my writing : Call 1-800-EAT-SHIT (2:242/401.10) on the contray Chris, it can be used with the AT Bus card BUT you need to install the drivers (CDMKE43.sys and MSCDEX.exe) correctly in order for DOS and program to recognize it.) Norm Hill. --- MsgToss 2.0c! (r) * Origin: Intercity RBBS, Richmond VA.(21.6DS) (1:264/152) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SCOTT TEED Number: 10547 To: ALL Date: 12/29/93 1:24p Subj: Journeyman Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Has anybody got a copy of The Journeyman running in OS/2 out there. I got a copy recently and although I can run the intro I end up being hit with an: Microsoft Test Driver (ds) Error (Bindtime Error:) Cannot find KRNL386.EXE error and then being shunted out to the desktop. I believe it has something to do with the Quick Time for Windows utility but have been unable to get things going. Any assistance would be great. PS. Tech info: 486/33; 16 Mg Ram; Mitsumi FX001D CD-ROM; PAS16 sound card. Seasons Greetings. ___ X MR/2 PM 0.99e NR X Those who can, do. Those who can't, supervise! --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Piece of Mind BBS [16.8K HST/V32] (613)523-6844 (1:163/512) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON RAICHLE Number: 10548 To: TONY CORKERY Date: 12/27/93 2:03a Subj: CorelDRAW V3 CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TC>All, >I have a Mitsumi LU005S CD-ROM drive and I have been having great >difficulty in accessing the material on the CD that comes with CorelDRAW >V3. Tony, I have the same drive and the same disk. No problems whatsoever-- and I've been all over the disk. Is there someone you know with a CDROM drive? If so, take Corel over there and see what happens. Have you been able to read other disks in the drive? I hope this helps, a little. TTYL Don --- WM v3.10/92-0699 * Origin: Lightning in a Bottle BBS * NJ * 201-731-7194 (1:2605/104) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE SITKO Number: 10549 To: MICHAEL SMITH47 Date: 12/27/93 10:57p Subj: 7Th Guest & SVGA question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Michael Smith47 wrote ╒═══════════════════════════════╕ ▄▀░Over a year ago I upgraded to a cheap Trident 1meg card, no frills, but ▄▀░supports SVGA. I only have a VGA monitor, but the combination works That's the one I'm getting! ▄▀░with a couple CD's I have that say SVGA is needed. The only thing I ▄▀░notice is that some of the graphics have peculiar shading, something ▄▀░like what a 256 color gif looks like in 16 color display, but not as bad. ▄▀░You should be able to get a plain jane SVGA card (1 meg) for under $50. ▄▀░Warning: I don't have 7th Guest; there's always an exception with these I got mine for $40, so I think I did OK! Thanks for the help! ╘═══════════════════════════════╛ Later.......... Joe Sitko on Monday, 12/27/93 22:56:49 jsitko@pro-berks.cts.com ■ TLX 3.30 ■ Classic oxymoron: Common sense. --- WM v3.10/93-0158 * Origin: The Glass Menagerie II (215) 376-1819 V32.Bis (1:2607/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE SITKO Number: 10550 To: JANUSZ SUROWKA Date: 12/27/93 10:59p Subj: 7Th Guest & SVGA question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Janusz Surowka wrote ╒═══════════════════════════════╕ ▌▀▐First of all, you can run the game at 320x200 rez!! ▌▀▐and you wanted to know if you can connect a SVGA card to a vga monitor?? ▌▀▐Well your reading a message from someone who runs 640x480x256!! ▌▀▐anyways, the answer is "Yes" you can connect a SVGA card to a VGA monitor ▌▀▐and run SVGA mode, only upto 640x480, though!! That's what I'll do, then. ▌▀▐ ▌▀▐As for the type of V-Card that you want, get whatever, /w atleast 512K ▌▀▐on it, but dont buy a Oak or a Trident!! ▌▀▐Paradise is allright, Ati, Diamond are great!! On the advice of a computer guru at work, I'm getting a Trident with one meg. Why don't you like this brand? ╘═══════════════════════════════╛ Thanks for the help..... Joe Sitko on Monday, 12/27/93 22:59:37 jsitko@pro-berks.cts.com ■ TLX 3.30 ■ And God said: E = ½mv² - Ze²/r ...and there *WAS* light! --- WM v3.10/93-0158 * Origin: The Glass Menagerie II (215) 376-1819 V32.Bis (1:2607/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE SITKO Number: 10551 To: ERIK MCKIBBEN Date: 12/27/93 11:01p Subj: 7Th Guest & SVGA question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Erik McKibben wrote ╒═══════════════════════════════╕ ▄▐▀From what I've heard about this game it needs a pretty fast video card. T ▄▐▀means either an ISA, EISA, MCA accelerator or a Local Bus graphics card. ▄▐▀I don't think that the SVGA mode will work with a VGA monitor. VGA is onl ▄▐▀640x400. SVGA has higher resolutions and normally 256 colors. ╘═══════════════════════════════╛ Erik, Actually, several people have told me I CAN use a SVGA card, BUT, I'll only get VGA resolution. That's OK with me! Thanks for the reply....... Joe Sitko on Monday, 12/27/93 23:01:16 jsitko@pro-berks.cts.com ■ TLX 3.30 ■ <Your name here> (Send $10 for info!) --- WM v3.10/93-0158 * Origin: The Glass Menagerie II (215) 376-1819 V32.Bis (1:2607/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE SITKO Number: 10552 To: MAX GREEN Date: 12/27/93 11:08p Subj: cheap imitations Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Max Green wrote ╒═══════════════════════════════╕ ▒▓▐ JS> I bought a Sound Galaxy NX Pro, here on the nets, about 5 months ago, ▒▓▐ ▒▓▐ NOT TRUE, in your case or by any other clone maker. The cards may ▒▓▐ emulate (Webster: "strive to equal, by imitating - imitate, esp. in ▒▓▐ excellence") the genuine Soundblaster. If these other cards were so ▒▓▐ good wouldn't they have their own standards established? Granted ▒▓▐ there may be a feature or two which is better that the Soundblaster ▒▓▐ however, for overall compatibility, reliability, support and easy of ▒▓▐ use NO ONE can beat the Soundblaster. FYI, I am just an end user but ▒▓▐ have had 4 different brands installed in my system and I have came ▒▓▐ back to the Soundblaster each time. So to all of you who think that ▒▓▐ you are going to save a buck or two - good luck. ▒▓▐ ╘═══════════════════════════════╛ Max, Lighten up a bit, good buddy. Somebody asked my opinion and I just replied. First of all, some imitations ARE better than the original. Take IBM PC's for example. I'd rather take a good clone that an old AT or PS2. Secondly, I paid $120 bucks for my Aztec and I could've gotten a Soundblaster Pro for about the same, so I WASN"T looking to save a buck. I wanted, AND GOT, a card with more features than the Soundblaster. Lastly if you went through four DIFFERENT cards, are you sure you knew what you wanted and what they were capable of? Sounds to me like you had some doubts. Later........... Joe Sitko on Monday, 12/27/93 23:07:49 jsitko@pro-berks.cts.com ■ TLX 3.30 ■ I'm as confused as a baby at a topless bar! --- WM v3.10/93-0158 * Origin: The Glass Menagerie II (215) 376-1819 V32.Bis (1:2607/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE SITKO Number: 10553 To: RICK NAY Date: 12/27/93 11:09p Subj: Re: 7Th Guest & SVGA ques Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Rick Nay wrote ╒═══════════════════════════════╕ ▄▐░Well I had a trident 8900c before I had my et-4000 and you may find the vi ▄▐░little jerky..7th guest comes with Vesa drivers for the trident board..And ▄▐░usually its just a plug in and ready to go situation..if you have problems ▄▐░it let me know the configuration of the card..its imperitive that you get ▄▐░owners manual..because you may have to set jumpers..For fourty dollars mor ▄▐░could an et-4000 based board capable of 16.8 milllion colors at 640x480 an ▄▐░about 3 times the performance of the trident..but of course you know your ▄▐░budget..hehe..ok..C-ya.. ╘═══════════════════════════════╛ Rick, Thanks for the advice. If I have any trouble, I'll give you a shout. Later...... Joe Sitko on Monday, 12/27/93 23:09:34 jsitko@pro-berks.cts.com ■ TLX 3.30 ■ I(ve) B(een) M(islead) --- WM v3.10/93-0158 * Origin: The Glass Menagerie II (215) 376-1819 V32.Bis (1:2607/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE SITKO Number: 10554 To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 12/28/93 3:14p Subj: 7TH GUEST & SVGA QUESTION Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Quoting Scott Davis to Joe Sitko concerning 7TH GUEST & SVGA QUESTION: ╒═══════════════════════════════╕ ▒▐█JS>I just bought a used copy of 7th Guest on CD. I didn't realize it at t ▒▐█JS>time I bought it, that it needs SVGA to run. My question is," Can I ▒▐█JS>just go out and buy a SVGA card to replace my VGA card, and will my ▒▐█JS>monitor (VGA) still work, or do I need to go out and get a new card AND ▒▐█JS>new monitor?" ▒▐█ ▒▐█SVGA and VGA aren't really the problem.. make sure your monitor will handl ▒▐█640x480 mode and you should be fine.. ▒▐█ ▒▐█JS>What card would one recommend and how much are they going for? ▒▐█ ▒▐█Any brand of card will do.. make sure it has at least 512K though for 256 ▒▐█in 640x480 mode.. Just make sure its fast (A trident or better will work.. ▒▐█personally use and like cards with a Cirrus Logic chip but the Tseng Labs ▒▐█ET-4000 cards are also nice..) Also, I do recommend looking into a new mon ▒▐█which will handle higher resolutions.. ╘═══════════════════════════════╛ Scott, I'm not sure I understand your comment. Why do you say, "SVGA and VGA" aren't the problem?" My monitor WILL handle 640 x 480, but the game won't run! I'm getting a used Trident with a meg of memory, hopefully that'll fix the problem. Thanks for the reply............... Written by Joe Sitko on Tuesday, December 28 at 15:13:10 ... I thought it was set on STUN!! ■TLXv3.30■ --- WM v3.10/93-0158 * Origin: The Glass Menagerie II (215) 376-1819 V32.Bis (1:2607/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE SITKO Number: 10555 To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 12/28/93 3:17p Subj: 7Th Guest & SVGA question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Quoting Ashwin Bihari to Joe Sitko concerning 7Th Guest & SVGA question: ╒═══════════════════════════════╕ ▄▐▓Well Joe, you cannot make a VGA monitor a SVGA monitor by just getting a ▄▐▓SVGA monitor, you will need to buy a SVGA monitor too, but as I know you ▄▐▓can also use MCGA, which is equal to a VGA, so you can you use your VGA ▄▐▓Monitor too, and by the way, there has been a lot of problems, with ▄▐▓Diamond video boards, becuase that game does not support the S3 chip, ▄▐▓but there is a fix which I have not found, and I don't need to cuz I ▄▐▓have a trident, well TTYL. ╘═══════════════════════════════╛ Ashwin, All I want to do is use my VGA monitor as a VGA monitor, but feed it video through a SVGA card. I'm told that is quite possible to do. I'm getting a Trident SVGA card with one meg. (I gor a good deal on it!) Hopefully, that'll work OKAY. Thanks for the reply................ Written by Joe Sitko on Tuesday, December 28 at 15:16:41 ... A penny for your thoughts; $20 to act them out. ■TLXv3.30■ --- WM v3.10/93-0158 * Origin: The Glass Menagerie II (215) 376-1819 V32.Bis (1:2607/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT BRIGGS Number: 10556 To: BOB JACKSON Date: 12/29/93 9:33p Subj: Re: mscdex and dos 6.x Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BJ>Should have been one that came with your Dos 6.2... BJ>Check in your Dos Directory.... BJ>Bob Hmmm. There is one there. Er, Gee.... Thanks. ===Bob Briggs * SLMR 2.1a * B&K BBS - The JAZZ went to Utah, we moved here - 523-0983 --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: Bob and Kathey's BBS - (504)523-0983 ! Robert Briggs (1:396/81) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE MAZZOLA Number: 10557 To: GARY HUFF Date: 12/29/93 6:53a Subj: Panasonic 562/AT Bus interface card Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Gary, UPS picked up the AT bus card that had the 25(?) pin out on the back. The replacement is a 16bit with nothing on the backplane but a mono out RCA plug(?). Since I'm using it on a BBS I'd like to have the ability to dasiy chain. Guess I'll try to find a card with the 40pin out on back. ..Mike --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Quantum Leap-San Antonio Tx. (210)333-5360 H16/DS (1:387/307) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HUGH CRAIG Number: 10558 To: VINCE SORENSEN Date: 12/28/93 4:04p Subj: Good Shareware Cds Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message dated 12-27-93, Vince Sorensen said to Hugh Craig: -> looks. This is slow as well though. Doing a page down to view -> the next screen full of files requires up to a 5 second delay while VS>Hi Hugh! VS> 5 seconds!?! There's definitely something wrong. I did the same page VS>down, on a 386SX-20, running DesqView (3 tasks, in use), with NO disk VS>caching (i.e. SmartDrive), and it took 0.57 seconds. What are you VS>running (i.e. hardware)??? A 486DX-33 VLB, Cirrus Logic VLB 5426 Video, Mitsumi FX001D 2x, BOth in OS/2 and vanilla DOS I get the same performance with the packages reader. Heck, I don't know! Go figure. .. It's OS/2, Jim, but not OS/2 as we know it. -- MR/2 #114 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: COMM Port One OS/2 (713) 980-9671 (1:106/2000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HUGH CRAIG Number: 10559 To: JERRY MURPHY Date: 12/28/93 5:21p Subj: Mitsumi cd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message dated 12-24-93, Jerry Murphy said to Brice Fleckenstein: JM>Being a man of the world, and knowledgeable on most aspects JM>of this hobby, perhaps you know of any possible suitable JM>substitutes for MSCDEX? I'm trying to make my system as JM>bug-free (read Microshaft- free) as I possibly can, as soon JM>as I can. I've upgraded to OS/2, installed that SUPERIOR JM>PCDOS 6.1, and off'ed all the MS junk I could find anywhere JM>it hid in my system. JM>Except for that dratted MSCDEX! JM>What suggestions do you have, JM>Anybody else with *constructive* suggestions? Just that you have worthy goals. I hope you find what your looking for. I've been on a likewise quest but have yet to arrive at a adequate solution (MSCDEX replacement for PCDOS). (inspirational momement alert): If one aims high one will have a chance at ending up on top. Free of the muck and mire of the odoriferous sewers below..... No more to trudge along earth bound turkeys, but aloft where the mighty Eagles dare. :EOIM Running OS/2 and PCDOS here also. Before PCDOS I had been using Digtal Research DOS (DRDOS) 6 for more than 2 years. I've been running OS/2 for about 18 months. Also have the Mitsumi FX001D. Wees might beuns blood bros. JM>the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio, USA Hugh, not of the Borg, but of the Craig. .. When DOS grows up it wants to be OS/2! -- MR/2 #114 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: COMM Port One OS/2 (713) 980-9671 (1:106/2000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 10560 To: BOB BREED Date: 12/29/93 2:27p Subj: Re: KODAK PHOTOCD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BB> It runs under windows, and installs about 1.6 megs of files BB> on your HD when you run the 'setup' program. BB> This disk has 24 test images. They are in a format with a .PCD BB> extention. These images are huge!! The smallest one is 3.5 megs, BB> the largest is 5.7 megs. This is not really huge. A typical 35mm slide from 100 ASA E-6 film (not Kodachrome) can easily resolve 24,000 x 36,000 pixels at effectively better than 24 bit color resolution. To properly translate that photo into a (non-compressed) digital format without significant losses would require 2.4 Gigs per photograph. I happen to shoot 57mm film (120 or 220), and often use 25 ASA Kodachrome film, which can easily resolve more than 150,000 lines. That translates into more than 40 Gigabytes per photograph. Some photographers prefer a 12cm x 18cm or even a 20cm x 25cm transparency format (large format cameras), which would require well over 200G per photograph. (And people wonder why I am not impressed by digital photographs.) Nonetheless, one can obtain a halfway decent photograph from a 5M bitmap, especially a compressed one. BB> The editing software allows you to 'save' the image in BB> several formats: BMP, EPS, PCX, RIFF, TIFF, WMF. (No GIF) When BB> you save the file, it only requires about 350-400 k of space -- BB> much like any other image. Only if you lose much of the resolution, and (possibly) some of the picture. BB> windows and photo software menu bars on the screen. The picture BB> appears in an insert box, and loads very slowly when compared to BB> other viewers such as VPIC and CSHOW. That is because you are loading a 24 bit image, not an 8 bit image, which automatically takes 3 times as long, plus you are loading an image with much greater resolution than your average .GIF file. BB> The disk didn't work like I hoped it would. When I think of a BB> CD Disk as being able to store over 4000 gifs, it was quite a shock BB> to find that these disks will only hold 100 -- and to the best of BB> my knowledge there is no viewer that will just 'show' them on a BB> full screen without any clutter. Whether such software exists for the PC, I don't know, but there are certainly dedicated viewers which can do so, and producing non-Windows, full screen software to do the job would not be too difficult. BB> (VPIC uses the full screen to BB> display GIFs. It also auto sizes the file to fit your screen BB> within some limits. This software doesn't.) You have that backwards. VPIC (and CSHOW) do not change the image resolution to size it. Rather, they change the SCREEN resolution to best match the picture resolution, thus allowing optimal viewing parameters, just as any intelligent program should. However, the viewer of which you speak is a *Windows* program, and such screen manipulations are of course impossible under a GUI, which is another good reason to despise a GUI. It is possible to re-scale the image, of course, but that takes a large amount of time, and usually will result in a lot of quantitization errors, and in general, a lousy picture. Les --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: GUI? Ptui!!! --- Last Chance Pt 4 (1:387/800.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DANNY WOFFORD Number: 10561 To: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE Date: 12/29/93 9:02p Subj: Looking for Movie Database CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Christoph Steinecke wrote in a message to Alle: CS> Are their any other CD's besides The Microsoft Cinemania CS> 1994 which can be recommended regarding Movies ? CS> Are there other CD's ? Yes there is, called Movie Select by Paramount Interactive and may I say it is one of the better ones I have seen including Micrsoft Cinemania......... Have a fine one, Danny --- timEd-A10c * Origin: The StarGazer * Home of a 1931 Ford Roadster (1:106/131) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ALEXANDER Number: 10562 To: KENNY SCOTT Date: 12/29/93 11:34p Subj: Cd-rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Kenny Scott to All <=- KS> I am looking for a CD-ROM drive with these specifications: KS> Double Speed or higher KS> 250 or less seek time KS> 300-350 or more KB transfer KS> *Gravis Ultrasound Compatible KS> Windows compatibility KS> * = optional KS> KS> If you know of any CD-ROM drive that can support this setup, and KS> any prices on them, and any other purchase information I can get, KS> please let me know. If you are a dealer, please give me the prices on KS> the cost of single and multiple disk CD-ROM's. I really appreciate KS> any help and or information you might be able to provide me with. KS> KS> My Thanks, KS> Kenny Scott KS> The Mitsumi FX-001D meets these criteria. They have it for $197 here. My friend has it and it works great. ... Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: KFS Programming -HQ- ...Mail Only... (1:170/359) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ALEXANDER Number: 10563 To: GEORGE WALKER Date: 12/29/93 11:43p Subj: Mitsumi Cd And The Sb Pro Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting George Walker to All <=- GW> I have a potentially silly question. GW> I've just installe3d a Mitsumi doublespeed drive and have a GW> Soundblaster Pro (16) (before Creative Labs made multiple flavors of GW> the SBPRO). How do I interface the two. I assume it a function of GW> software but can find no reference to it in either the CD docs or the GW> SB docs. Please send all responses to "Dazed and DESUFNOC" Well, you can't hook the Mitsumi directly to the SB. You can hook the 4 pin audio cable to it though. You have to use the Mitsumi interface card to handle the drive. For the audio, look in the CD-ROM book and the SB book and find the pin layout for the 4 pin cable. Make the proper adjustments to the plug for it to work with the SB. Then set the software volume for the CD-IN. Now raw CD music will come through the SB. ... Please steal this tagline, and spread it around the world. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: KFS Programming -HQ- ...Mail Only... (1:170/359) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ALEXANDER Number: 10564 To: BRIAN ECKBLAD Date: 12/29/93 11:46p Subj: Omni Cd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Brian Eckblad to All <=- BE> I have a Omni CD-ROM, I can not get it to load the driver MSCDEX "or BE> something like that" When I try to load the driver is says NOT ENOUGH BE> DRIVE LETTERS AVAILABLE. Well I can not get in touch with Creative BE> Labs Tech Support and their BBS does not answer. I have my HDD BE> sectioned in three parts C: D: and E: I am trying to get the CD ROM to BE> be Drive F:. I have set up MSCDEX like this BE> MSCDEK "PATH" /d:MSCD001 /L:f etc I ahve tried many different BE> combinations. It is driving me nuts. I have a SBPRO card and the CD is BE> hooked to it. I think it is installed properly because SBCD.sys BE> reconizes it during boot up. Well HELP! HELP! BE> BE> Thanks BE> BE> Brian Eckblad BE> Try adding "LASTDRIVE = G" to your config.sys ... Save the whales...harpoon a rap group ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: KFS Programming -HQ- ...Mail Only... (1:170/359) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL GUIDRY Number: 10565 To: WIN TRAFTON Date: 12/29/93 10:35p Subj: At Bus, Scsi, And The Proaudio Spectrum Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 27 Dec 93, Win Trafton stated to All: WT>Could someone please fill me in on how I can best utilize my ProAud WT>Spectrum 16 as far as connecting a CD_ CD_ROM Drive to it. Someone WT>to sell me a a Mitsumi drive saying it is a SCSI drive but from wha WT>have been reading, it seems that it may be an AT bus drive without WT>ability to piggy back more SCSI devices in the future. My ProAudio WT>says that I can get a SCSI cable driver kit to connect a CD_ROM dri WT>to it without a separate interface card. Does this all make sense WT>what should I do? My gut feel is to by a bare drive and get the ca WT>from Mediavision as they suggest. Is this the right thing to do or WT>headed down the wrong path. All I want is to be able to play the c WT>CD_ROM software and prepare myself for full motion video, photo CD, WT>whatever else comes along in the near future. Please shed some lig WT>this or I'm afraid I'll end up with something that won't take advan WT>what I currently have or limit me in the future. I got a pas16 and the single speed mitsumi back in march. The mitsumi requires its own 16 bit controller card and, from what I've heard, you can't run more than one drive off of it. The mitsumi works fine with the pas16, but the internal audio cable that's supposed to connect the cd to the pas16 doesn't match. I just got a $4 set of audio cables from Radio Shack and connected the external jacks. Works great. If you get a scsi drive, I'm not sure that you need a special cable. Think it may just be a standard scsi ribbon cable. The drivers are available on the mediavision bbs. You should probably check there if you have specific questions. BBS (510)770-0968 or (510)770-0527 Whether to go scsi or not depends on how many slots you have available. I had plenty of spares, so I didn't feel the need to, plus the mitsumi was a great bargain at the time. With good scsi's now getting reasonable, that may be the way to go. ... User Friendly: Never having to say - "I read the manual." --- WIN-MAIL "The Pointe System" for MS Windows - Beta/0.09A * Origin: Castle Guidrax -- New Orleans, Louisiana (1:396/1.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANDREW BISHOP Number: 10566 To: VICTOR ZDANOWICZ Date: 12/25/93 12:42p Subj: Re: Return to Zork Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No VZ> Could anyone please tell me their set-up when running Return To Zork. VZ> My System is VZ> 486DX66 8 Megs ram VZ> CD-16 Cd-rom pack. VZ> I can JUST get it to run, but without mouse control. VZ> It always reports that it needs XXXXXX more memory to run.. VZ> Should I use EMM, or not? How much free memory do you have? From what you have said I take it that when you include the mouse driver you no longer have enough memory for rtz to run. You should use Emm386 with the noems switch and load all the drivers that you can high with the DEVICEHIGH and LOADHI commands. This should allow you to have your mouse driver loaded and still have enough free memory to run RTZ. Rtz is a great game, I finished about a week ago now. If you have any other questions, just ask. Andrew Bishop. ... Macintosh: Computer with training wheels you can't remove --- Blue Wave/Opus v2.12 [NR] * Origin: SA Country CLUB [Line 1] | South Australia | 08 2 (3:800/853.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANDREW BISHOP Number: 10567 To: STEVE MANN Date: 12/26/93 11:14a Subj: Re: Changes: Prices/shipping Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Any clue as to when 'Mechwarrior II The Clans' is going to be > available on CD? I've seen it on one shops CD list but haven't > been able to get through to them yet. SM> I'll check. It would help if you knew the publisher though. Sorry!, it's made by Activision, Saw an ad for it in my copy of Return to Zork, but there was no release date included. Thanks for going to the trouble to find this out for me. Andrew Bishop. ... Windows NT error #96345675a You actually thought Windows NT works?! --- Blue Wave/Opus v2.12 [NR] * Origin: SA Country CLUB [Line 1] | South Australia | 08 2 (3:800/853.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANDREW BISHOP Number: 10568 To: TONY MICHAEL Date: 12/26/93 11:19a Subj: Re: ker--bussshhh Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TM> Due to a freak in nature's course, I accidentally tipped about 25ml of TM> nail polish remover onto a CD-Rom, and a layer of white stuff formed. TM> And now, my CD-Rom refuses to read it and does not wish to have TM> anything to do with it. TM> My question, TM> What's this layer of white stuff ? TM> How do I get rid of it ??? This is only a Guess, but I suspect that the Nail polish remover has actually eaten into the surface of the cd. As to fixing it, I guess that you might be able to polish it out, but depending on how much damage has been done, you might have to write off the CD. Andrew Bishop. ... Specify Drive> (A):, (B):, (C): or (W)arp. --- Blue Wave/Opus v2.12 [NR] * Origin: SA Country CLUB [Line 1] | South Australia | 08 2 (3:800/853.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB CROCKFORD Number: 10569 To: GEOFF BOWES Date: 12/26/93 9:39a Subj: SB setup Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Geoff, GB >CONFIG.SYS & GB >AUTOEXEC.BAT commands are for setting up an SBPRO with a Panasonic GB >562b, please? I purchased these two separately and cannot get the GB >SB to interface with the CD-ROM. I know I have all the programs to GB >get them up and running, but I don't know the correct syntax and/or GB >switches to use, and is there a jumper on the SB that needs setting GB >to enable the CD-ROM controller??? You need a modified driver to achieve that... The 562 (OEM version) is slightly different to the 563 which is what CL bundles in their kits. The drivers for the 562 start at address 300 and go up, the 563 drivers use 220 or 240.. Get a modified CDMKE driver (the one that goes in config.sys) and that should fix your probs there. Cya! Bob --- Ezycom V1.02 01fa0009 * Origin: Sound FX/3, Melbourne 03-749-5556 (3:633/270) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB CROCKFORD Number: 10570 To: LAURIE BATT Date: 12/26/93 9:42a Subj: SB16s and Panasonic 562 CDROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Laurie, LB >Unless you have one of the newer SB16 that have a different CDROM LB >interface LB >I believe there have been some recent releases with SCSI and other with LB >SONY BUS. The new SB16MCD can control three different types of CD-Rom's, it has three interfaces built onto the card, you load the appropriate driver for your CD-Rom. Panasonic, Sony and Mitsumi are all okay.. Regards, Bob --- Ezycom V1.02 01fa0009 * Origin: Sound FX/3, Melbourne 03-749-5556 (3:633/270) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID ADKINS Number: 10571 To: ROD SPEED Date: 12/25/93 9:43a Subj: SB16s and Panasonic 562 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> Where from tho ? The Creative Pacific BBS only has that one now and -> quick look around on Compuserve couldnt even find that, just the OS/2 -> one. Where can the OS/2 one be got from I know a friend who is looking for this. Can you help??? regards David --- WM v2.09/91-0520 * Origin: Bible Lighthouse BBS! Melbourne, (03)7260110 (3:632/453) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ASCENZO Number: 10572 To: TONY MICHAEL Date: 12/25/93 9:32a Subj: ker--bussshhh Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Tony Michael to All <=- TM> Due to a freak in nature's course, I accidentally tipped about 25ml of TM> nail polish remover onto a CD-Rom, and a layer of white stuff formed. TM> And now, my CD-Rom refuses to read it and does not wish to have TM> anything to do with it. TM> My question, TM> What's this layer of white stuff ? TM> How do I get rid of it ??? Nail polish remover is almost pure Acetone, which is a strong solvent for other organics, such as polyester and acrylics. The "white stuff" is the residual of dissolved plastic from the surface of your disk following the evaporation of the acetone. It may be possible to recover the disk by polishing the surface with a (very) mildly abrasive compound and restoring the shine. I can't suggest a suitable polish to use but others might. Regards, John Ascenzo ... He's dead Jim...kick him yourself if you don't believe me --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 * Origin: Melbourne PC User Group (3:632/309) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID WATT Number: 10573 To: ALL Date: 12/24/93 12:29p Subj: Return To Zork Memory Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi All, I have recently installed a CDROM and am trying to play Return to Zork on it. My problem is that the memory requirements are such that I can not load the mouse driver to play it, I can only play it with the keyboard. My computer is set up as follows: Config.sys Files=40 DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE DOS=HIGH STACKS=9,256 LASTDRIVE=Z DEVICEHIGH=C:\CDROM\CDMKE43.SYS /D:MVCD001 /R /SBP:220 /N:1 Autoexec.bat: SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 T4 SET SOUND=C:\SBPRO C:\SBPRO\SBP-SET /M:12 /VOC:12 /CD:12 /FM:12 /LINE:12 @ECHO OFF PROMPT $P$G SET TEMP=C:\DOS LOADHIGH C:\CDROMDVR\MSCDEX /D:MVCD001 /M:10 /V /E PATH C:\DOS;C:\ARCHIVE LOADHIGH C:\MSCMOUSE.EXE My mem/c report is as follows: MSDOS 17728 HIMEM 1072 EMM386 6848 CDMKE43 11440 COMMAND 2624 MSCDEX 15840 MSCMOUSE 13744 FREE 64 FREE 128 FREE 585584 TOTAL FREE: 585776 Largest executable program size : 585424 Ms Dos Resident in High Memory Area Return to Zork says I need 5120 bytes more free memory. Does anyone have a smaller mouse driver or any other solutions to my problem? Thanks Davod --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Empire BBS +61-3-591-0020, 592-5662 (3:632/530) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID WATT Number: 10574 To: ALL Date: 12/26/93 3:24p Subj: Return to Zork memory Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi all, I'm having problems getting Return to Zork to run using the joystick. I saw that someone else was having this problem as well and that a reply came back to include the RAM statement in the EMM386 line of the config.sys file. This, unfortunately doesn't work. I am currently 2304 bytes of conventional memory short of being able run the program. my mem/c report is as follows: MS DOS 17728 HIMEM 1072 EMM386 3232 CDMKE43 11440 MSCMOUSE 13408 COMMAND 2624 MSCDEX 15840 FREE 64 FREE 112 FREE 589568 Total FREE 589744 Largest executable program size : 598568 655360 bytes total EMS memory 229376 bytes free EMS memory MS DOS resident in high memory area My AUTOXEC. BAT file is as follows: SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 T4 SET SOUND=C:\SBPRO C:\SBPRO\SBP-SET /M:12 /VOC:12 /CD:12 /FM:12 /LINE:12 @ECHO OFF PROMPT $p$g loadhigh c:\cdromdrv\mscdex /d:mvcd001 /m:10 /v /e My CONFIG.SYS file is as follows: Files=40 DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS Device=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE ram DOS=HIGH STACKS=9,256 lastdrive=z devicehigh=c:\cdromdrv\cdmke43.sys /d:mvcd001 /r /sbp:220 /n:1 devicehigh=a:\mscmouse.sys Thus I need one of the following: a. A mouse driver that takes up 11104 bytes memory or less, b. CDMKE43.sys (A low level device driver for the AT interface card, required for my Panasonic 562 CD drive in order to read Photo CD, due to a change in the firmware on AT drives by Panasonic) that takes up 2304 bytes less, c. MSCDEX.exe (Microsoft CD Extensions 2.21 to make DOS access CDROM drives) that takes 2304 bytes less, or d. A different to the way I manage my memory. Thanks for your help. David.--- * Origin: Empire BBS +61-3-591-0020, 592-5662 (3:632/530) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAURIE BATT Number: 10575 To: ADAM SUTCLIFFE Date: 12/27/93 10:33a Subj: NightOwl 10 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No G'day Adam Sutcliffe, In a message on <Dec 24>, you said : AS> Hi Daniel.. AS> I run a BBS and I am just about to purchase NightOwl... AS> Could you tell me are all the versions of NightOwl 10 AS> invected with a virus!?! How come some do? Well, anyway I The disk is not INFECTED. ther are two archives on the disk which contain virii. It is not a great problem as long as you avoid those two files. It is even possible to remove the virus from the infected files (I have done it), although it is not possible to remove it from the disk itself. I believe there some newer prints of the same disk with these files removed. AS> woundn't care if I bought 8,9 or 10. Whixh version do you V 10 is the latest, soon 11 the others are earlier versions, little duplication between all. All are good Laurie --- Msgedsq 2.2e * Origin: The PNG Connection, Cairns Tropical Nth Qld, OZ (3:640/532) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAURIE BATT Number: 10576 To: KEN KIRKBY Date: 12/27/93 10:40a Subj: Zone1 link Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No G'day Ken Kirkby, In a message on <Dec 25>, you said : KK> I have Areafixed CDROM on from 1/102:138 but since the KK> Areafix response have not picked up any files from George. KK> I'll give him a call over the week end and see whats KK> happening. From this can we assume CDROM is almost back on line again ? GOODONYERMATE !!! Laurie --- Msgedsq 2.2e * Origin: The PNG Connection, Cairns Tropical Nth Qld, OZ (3:640/532) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALFOND RIZOTTI Number: 10577 To: STEVE PESANT Date: 12/27/93 1:10p Subj: Re: QEMM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No So, it costs 9 bucks to upgrade from DOS 6 to 6.2, but it full of ..., it refused to work with some of video cards supplied programs (ET4000). Further more for a great CD-ROM cache try Norton SpeedCache+ which has sped my single speed CD-ROM at least one and a half times. --- Opus-CBCS 1.73a * Origin: Palantir - On the Bauder! French's Forest NSW A (3:714/207.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TED HARPER Number: 10578 To: ROBERT HAWORTH Date: 12/27/93 7:11a Subj: Return to Zork Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Robert: RH> The trickiest thing about RTZ is it doesn't always detect the right RH> settings automaticly for your sound card. With the wrong settings the game RH> will lock up. Have fun. FWIW, I just downloaded the RTZ 1.1 update patch from Activision's area on Compuserve, and have it available on my BBS as RZCD11.EXE (I'll put it in the "first-time download" area for convenience). This has a number of fixes related to sound cards and uses 64k less low memory than 1.0 if you have EMS (I don't need a boot floppy to play now!), but /doesn't/ allow you to keep you existing savegames. The phone number for the BBS is on the origin line below... ted.h. --- GoldED/P16 2.42.G1121+ * Origin: Ted's Skiing Substitute, Sydney +61-2-686-4192 (3:713/306) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TED HARPER Number: 10579 To: ANDREW SEE Date: 12/27/93 7:15a Subj: CDROM echo In Aust Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Saturday December 25 1993 11:24, Andrew See wrote to VICKI CRAWFORD: VC>> Writing won't help, send money is the positive reply. AS> Who to? The Salvation Army? No seriously, I think most of us here are AS> financial contributors to various BBS's, I personally subscribe to 2. AS> This is a fair contribution to the "system" I feel. Andrew, Andrew - work through this with me OK... There is NO cost-recovery system for Fidonet echomail in Australia. We sysops do not pay into any "slush fund" for mail importation or movement. Those that move large volumes of mail around the country do so out of their own pocket, or through some private sponsorship scheme they may have with their company. Dave Hatch was bringing in a huge volume of mail into the country and acts as the "zone gate" for virtually all international netmail between Australia and the rest of the world. Fidonet as an entity does not contribute one red cent to his costs. Due to necessary and suddenly enforced belt-tightening, he has dropped about a dozen of the international echos which he was importing, but didn't have a direct personal interest in (remember this is a *hobby* and an expensive one for some of us) - CDROM is just one of those. Any money you pay in subscriptions to Fidonet BBSs in Australia goes to the upkeep, care and feeding of that system _only_, not any of the infrastructure which actually provides the value to the overall network. Other networks may have some form of echomail cost-recovery mechanism, but the metering, billing and actual collection and distribution of the money cause huge problems in most cases. There is no "system" for you to contribute to, other than directly supporting the person whose STD and ISD bills make the echos you like possible. You could also possibly set up an international link yourself, only needing to find a reliable overseas feed and a lazy couple of hundred dollars a week every week to bring in the echos you feel you may now be missing out on. ted.h. --- GoldED/P16 2.42.G1121+ * Origin: Ted's Skiing Substitute, Sydney +61-2-686-4192 (3:713/306) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PETER SUREDA Number: 10580 To: DAVID WATT Date: 12/28/93 12:26p Subj: Return To Zork Memory Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting David Watt to All <=- DW> I have recently installed a CDROM and am trying to play Return to Zork DW> on it. My problem is that the memory requirements are such that I can DW> not load the mouse driver to play it, I can only play it with the DW> keyboard. My computer is set up as follows: This is what you need , about 400K big , I'll upload it to Audiophiles paradise here in Melb.... The Return To Zork Version 1.1 Updating Program December 23, 1993 The files RTZ11.EXE and RTZCD11.EXE will update versions 1.0 of The Return To Zork to version 1.1. RTZ11.EXE is the update program for the floppy version. RTZCD11.EXE is the update program for the CD-ROM version. MAKE SURE YOU USE THE CORRECT UPDATE PROGRAM. IMPORTANT: Previously saved games will not work with the new version. We are sorry about this, but due to some bug fixes it was a requirement. What's New: If you have XMS/EMS memory, Return To Zork 1.1 can now be configured to use over 64K less low-memory than the previous version. The Creative Labs SoundBlaster (tm), SoundBlaster Pro (tm), and SoundBlaster 16 (tm) drivers have been revised (thanks to Creative Labs). Changes to the audio system may improve sound quality on some PC's. Bugs in the game play as reported by users have been fixed. For example you can now play the Keeper's speeches. If you have problems you can call customer support at 310 207 4500. On Internet we can be reached at support@activision.com. On Compuserve 76004,2122. Thanks, The RTZ Team. [end] This should help your memory problems Peter --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Andy's BBS: Melb Australia - 61-3-357-3414 (3:635/503.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB MILLER Number: 10581 To: ALL Date: 12/28/93 12:41p Subj: SB-16 and DOS 6.2 ? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I am having trouble running the install program that came with a friend's system. I have an SB16 with ASP on a 386-DX40 and he has an SB16 without ASP on a 486-33. I can run the installation on my machine with both my diskettes and his diskettes, but I can't run the installation on his machine at all - it keeps failing to recognise that diskette 2 has been inserted and keeps on rquesting that disk 2 be loaded. I got rid of any mention of SMARTDRV in his config and autoexec, and still the problem persists. I then went off the deep end and removed caching in his CMOS settings and still it fails. Does anyone have any ideas why the install might be failing? or even a useful suggestion as to how to proceed Thanks Bob --- GEcho 1.02/beta+ * Origin: The InterACTive BBS - Canberra ACT - (06) 292-6200 (3:620/243) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON FLETCHER Number: 10582 To: BRYAN ANSLOW Date: 12/28/93 10:36a Subj: WINDOWS AND PC'S CR*P Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BA>Firstly, I try to get the Readme.wri file into windows write, oops, the >infamous "an error has occurred in your application" message, followed >by the even more infamous "WRITE caused a GPF in WRITE.EXE". Trying to >load it into Word for Windows 2.0 says that the conversion of this file >is 100% complete, then hangs! Bryan, I use Kodak Photo software with 8MB and have no problems. But I'm no expert. Best advice I can give you is to go to MS-Windows echo on Fido and address your problem to Jeff Marchi. I have a suspicion that your permanent swapfile is too large. I use 2KB. But Jeff will know what's what. Good luck. Fletch. --- ■ OLX 1.51 ■ mg --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: C.F.O.N.J. TBBS 2.2M - All HST 16.8/V.32B 908-486-2956 (1:107/932) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRANE FRANCKS Number: 10583 To: GARY HUFF Date: 12/29/93 10:32p Subj: Good ShareWare CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting - Gary Huff to Trane Francks, 26 Dec 93 07:35 -=> Subject - Re: Good ShareWare CD TF> international shipping, do you know of anybody that is reputable? GH> wasn't ordering CD-ROMs back then. :-) Therefore, I don't have any GH> information on American dealers who are reliable when it comes to GH> international shipping. But it's no big deal to ship overseas... Well, I know. I guess I'm just a bit paranoid, is all. I don't know who is or isn't reliable period, and am just looking for a little information to let me relax a little. ;-) --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 * Origin: The Watering Hole BBS Tokyo +81-3-3657-9255 (6:730/18) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BERND NURNBERGER Number: 10584 To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 12/29/93 8:03p Subj: CDROM Systems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BO> Groilers Encyc DOS v6. $49. ALL ChestNuts CD's $10.00ec > ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759 BO> Boris Osadciw BO> ... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks! Does your bang reach to Japan ? My bucks (plastic) do work in the U.S. How much for shipping (FedEx or the like) ? And a happy new year! * OLX 2.1 TD * Nothing is so smiple that it can't get srewed up. --- WM v3.01/92-0751 * Origin: Tokyo PC Club BBS +81 (3) (6:730/16.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BERND NURNBERGER Number: 10585 To: ARNIE GROSS Date: 12/29/93 8:23p Subj: Phone Santa? No: E-mail Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No AG> Just a word of warning..... AG> 19 Dec 93, Santa writes to All: AG> SC> HO.. HO.. HO.. MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL > SC> Origin: North Pole (9:999/999.9) > was posted from a POINT, not Santa's node. AG> We spoke to Henrietta (Mrs. Claus) who said: AG> "That man spends altogether too much time in > front of that blasted box. While he's reading his > Email, he makes the smallest elves clean up after > the reindeer! It may have been one of them!" AG> While it was indeed a harmless prank, we wish to > stress that posting a Christmas wish list to Santa > in this echo will probably be to no avail. Well, in Japan it worked, but of course not the way I expected. After reading lots of good messages and a few duds and dupes in the CD-ROM echo, the elf appeared (of course invisibly) and I picked up a new Toshiba MX-3401B locally, without the usual Japan markup of 30-100%. And it was indeed the pranksy elf, because it did not advise me that cables go extra and my existing PAS 16 board came without the driver for its SCSI interface. Fortunately, Santa was listening on the TOKYO PC BBS and uploaded the driver for me. It is 1993, and I wish to you already a Happy New Year. In Japan, you don't do that until strike twelve into 1994: Shin-nen akemashite omedetou gozaimasu! * OLX 2.1 TD * If at first, you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you. --- WM v3.01/92-0751 * Origin: Tokyo PC Club BBS +81 (3) (6:730/16.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BERNARD ZEPHRO Number: 10586 To: JOHN ULLMER Date: 12/29/93 10:13p Subj: Re: New Nec Cd Rom Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JU> -=> Quoting Thomas Hoffecker to All <=- JU> TH> I recently saw the new NEC triple speed CDROM drives advertised in > TH> Computer Shopper. Does anybody have one of these new drives? How much > TH> faster are they compared to a Toshiba? What info does the LCD display? JU> Sorry, I forgot to mention, the SCSI does NOT come with the > drive/reader. You purchase the board separately. You'll also > need a 16 bit sound card. Do you know if this NEC 3x drive will work using the new Soundblaster 16 SCSI-2 as the controller as opposed to using a separate SCSI controller. Creative Labs claimed it would work with all SCSI cd-roms. But that was before NEC 3x. I want to buy this combo if I know it will work well. \-\ ■ QMPro 1.02 41-0001 ■ MSI - Redefining Telecommunications in '93 --- DB 1.54/004840 * Origin: The Dark Star BBS Cheektowaga, NY (1:260/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS GOETTGENS Number: 10587 To: TONY CORKERY Date: 12/29/93 2:11a Subj: CorelDRAW V3 CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TC>I have a Mitsumi LU005S CD-ROM drive and I have been having great TC>difficulty in accessing the material on the CD that comes with TC>CorelDRAW V3. TC>I realise that the Mitsumi only accesses the first 600MB but there TC>seems to be vast tracts of the CD I can't get too. It either takes TC>ages for the drive to read the directory or it seems to spin forever TC>with nothing happening. TC>Has anybody had similar problems with this CD or a similar spec TC>drive? Does this problem only occur with the COREl 3 CD or with all other Data-CD's as well? This sounds to me as if there is a problem with the drive. Or did you install the driver with DMA support? Try the other one! It is as fast and half as big as the one with DMA and there are no DMA conflicts arising on the bus. Ciao, Thomas! Mitsumi Repair Center Europe. ___ * CmpQwk #UNREG * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Ryloth (2:242/5125) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALEX MOTTRAM Number: 10588 To: JAMES SUMMERS Date: 12/30/93 5:57a Subj: Loom CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No +- | Do any of you out here play the game Loom on Cd? I was very impressed with | this game and like it very much. I have a few questions though, I have bbecome | stuck and do not know what to do. If you are experienced at this game please | write me. I am stuck in the iron makers guild watching the man hammer away at | the sword. I have listened to the coversation, I have no idea what to do. | Could it be something with the stick baskket up stairs? +-[JS=>All] Sometime during the conversation, the ironworker will raise the sword to the sky. Do the "twist" (or whatever) song precisely at this moment and you will be seen and tossed in jail. :) hope this helps, Alex Mottram ##Mmr 2.46(beta). !link JS 12-28-93 14:43 --- GTMail 1.160 * Origin: The Twilight Phone -- Where else? (1:3803/6.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALEX MOTTRAM Number: 10589 To: LAWRENCE MINTZ Date: 12/30/93 6:01a Subj: NIGHT OWL 10 VIRUS REPORT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No +- | have clauses for revenue based upon the number of copies sold. The $600k quoted | may include penalties and damages over and above the original contract | stipulated payment(s). Double or triple damages are not unheard of in legal | circles. +-[LM=>AM] That's what I figured anyway. I'm just saying that 600k$ is a whole lot of green to "shell out." :) Thanks, Alex Mottram ##Mmr 2.46(beta). !link LM 12-28-93 17:05 --- GTMail 1.160 * Origin: The Twilight Phone -- Where else? (1:3803/6.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEREMY MCKANE Number: 10590 To: TIM SCHOOLER Date: 12/28/93 10:30a Subj: Re: CDROM DRIVE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I might Be interested in buying your offer if that *125.00* is $125.00 i am looking for a cd-rom for my network/bbs ... "Mr. Worf, fire phasers at Tim" ... Zzzzzap! --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Wagon Trails *Chat-n-Files* (214)727-2610 (1:124/6505) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LOIS FRANKEL Number: 10591 To: PETER DETTELIS Date: 12/29/93 10:57p Subj: Looking for information f Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 12-26-93 22:42 Peter Dettelis said something about Looking for information f, to which I reply: PD> I'm looking for the Information Finder CD-ROM, which contains the PD> World Book Encyclopedia. Does anyone have it for sale or trade. I've seen this encyclopedia in action, and wasn't impressed. Groliers is much better in every respect, from what I've seen: depth of information, flexibility of search and retrieval, and output options. ... Sorry, the Dog ate my message packet. --- Blue Wave/QWK v2.10 --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: RESY - Centipede Host - +609-896-3256 - (1:266/56.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KENNETH DUKE Number: 10592 To: SAM FIGUEROA Date: 12/29/93 12:12p Subj: Re: MORTAL KOMBAT PC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SF> Where in the world did you find Mortal Kombat for the PC, I have heard SF> many people saying that they have it! Would ya be willing to send me a SF> copy of it! Is it commercial or what? Yes, its commercial... sorry, and its kinda big.... 3 disk...... after unzipping. with the install program its a bit over 6 megs.. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Super Systems USR Dual 16.8K 615-847-9824 (1:116/7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KENNETH DUKE Number: 10593 To: ALL Date: 12/29/93 12:13p Subj: Mit. LU005 drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Im looking for a sound card and mit. lu005 interface for this drive.... anyone know of one priced right? --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Super Systems USR Dual 16.8K 615-847-9824 (1:116/7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE ELLISON Number: 10594 To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 12/14/93 7:31p Subj: Re: VIRUS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Brice, -=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to Rick Shoaf <=- BF> Point - the virus checker that found the NO10 viruses DID NOT EXIST BF> at the time that NO10 was SHIPPED - much less at the time NO10 was sent BF> to the manufacturer. Wrong. Mcafee's scanner v108 _was on_ the NO #10 disk and it found Crusades (Butterfly) and Memory Lapse easily. Butterfly's been around for months and almost any scanner in existence can find it. Neither one is very dangerous though, I don't really see what all of the hype is about. C-YA! Dave ... John Bobbit has no HARD feelings about what his wife did. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE ELLISON Number: 10595 To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR Date: 12/14/93 8:03p Subj: Re: SCAN 109 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Giuliano, -=> Quoting Giuliano Maciocci Jr to All <=- GMJ> Hi All! GMJ> I just got McAffee's SCAN 109... Does this detect the GMJ> dreaded Butterfly virus strain in the Night Owl 10 disk? GMJ> Does CLEAN 109 remove it? Anyone? I don't know if it cleans it, but it finds the B-FLY variant and Memory Lapse 366-A. I'd ditch scan for Thunderbyte 609 or F-Prot 210 though, because SCAN misses 5-10% or more of all other viruses. Check out the VIRUS_INFO echo and you'll find that out _real quick_! C-YA! Dave ... Stop discrimination, hate everyone equally. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE ELLISON Number: 10596 To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 12/14/93 7:45p Subj: Re: VIRUS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi again, -=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to Phil Trevorrow <=- >What's the name of the third file???????????????? >Read the MESSAGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BF> I have - and a grand total of 2 file names have been mentioned in BF> connection with the Night Owl 10 virus question. Actually, there were four, but a lot of disks just don't have the last two. Most of 'em have the first two though. C-YA! Dave ... NEXT TIME YOU WAVE AT ME USE MORE THAN ONE FINGER ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE ELLISON Number: 10597 To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 12/14/93 8:00p Subj: Re: VIRUS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi again!, -=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to Lawrence Gould <=- >They should be using something better than just SCAN these days. BF> Interesting theory, since SCAN is STILL the only virus checker (to BF> date) that has picked up on the virus-infected files on NO10. hehe, Wrong again. F-prot 210 finds both, 209 found one. Thunderbyte Anti-virus only identifies Butterfly, but detects Memory Lapse as being "Probably Infected by an Unknown Virus" when used with heuristic scanning enabled. Even Microsoft's lame scanner finds Butterfly (Crusades.Com/.Exe) although it tags it as the "Tm" virus. Mcafee just got lucky on this one. Any other new viruses it would have missed. >Lets hope that they have taken notic of what software found the viruses and >that they add that to the checking of the next CD. BF> They appear to have used the version of SCAN that was current AT THE BF> TIME THE DATA WENT TO THE PRESSER. SCAN 1.08, to the best of my BF> knowlage, was released a BF> couple of weeks LATER. SCANV108 was on the same disk, amigo... Later, Dave Ellison ... Why, I LOVE cats! Anyone want to share recipes? ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE ELLISON Number: 10598 To: BENJAMIN ORTIZ Date: 12/24/93 11:00p Subj: Re: Virus Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Benjamin Ortiz said this to Phil Trevorrow on 12-17-93 18:24 *** BO> I got the VSUMX308.ZIP which is the virus database from Patricia BO> Hoffman, and I was looking at the Butterfly(Crusades) virus information BO> from that program and all it said it would do was leave the system BO> hang. It's quite cleanable and not threatening as far as I could tell. BO> Memory Lapse on the other hand is a different story... BO> And as for the other virus, I haven't been able to locate it, but I'll BO> do a hexadecimal search for the signature and see what I come up with, BO> I just don't think there's one on that archive in particular... Why do I bother with you?? Ben, SCANV109 has been out for several weeks and detects both in a lot less time! (As do superior scanners like F-Prot) VSUM huh? Is that where you get all of your virus `knowledge'? I wouldn't trust the Mcafee support digest (VSUM) any farther than I can throw you! Dave ... Two most common elements in the universe: Hydrogen & Stupidity. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE ELLISON Number: 10599 To: BENJAMIN ORTIZ Date: 12/24/93 11:15p Subj: Re: Virus Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Here I go again! *** Benjamin Ortiz said this to Mike Shannon on 12-17-93 18:24 *** BO> BO> I think your arrogance is your weakness...how can you be so sure that BO> this won't happen to a Pier CD? What happened to Nightowl was a BO> complete ACCIDENT. The scanner at the time of distribution was Scan BO> v108 and a few others. They didn't detect the virii because they were BO> probably a part of a new strain/generation/variant. Scan v109 just Wrong AGAIN! I HAVE Crusades.Com and Memory Lapse 366-A in my virus collection (along with 1100+ others). I have tested BOTH against SCANV_108_ (aka--the one that WAS ON the NO #10.0 disk) and it found BOTH. As I said somewhere before, MOST variants are detectable through the use of the older version's signature (e.g. Crusades.Com is detectable using Butterfly's signature). Generation?? That's one I haven't heard. BO> came out. It will detect the new virii that are out NOW and as of the BO> date of distribution of the Scanner. And to end this conversation, Ben, the plural of virus is virusES, NOT virii! NOW is also known as "in the wild", but since you don't know anything else about viruses I wouldn't expect you to know that either! BO> even McAfee does not guarantee that their software will detect 100% of BO> all known virii. No software company is held liable for any damage I must've missed the claims about 100% detection rates, I won't correct you on that one (for now, at least). Of course, if I were Mcafee, I wouldn't guarantee my product had a 100% detection rate either, especially considering it's more like 90%. IOW Mcafee's scanner is LAME! MS> Incorrect. The scanners that are used with the Pier CD's would have MS> detected the nested virus also. BO> Read the last couple of lines above, bub...developers of scanners and BO> clean-up utilities do NOT 100% guarantee that their software will scan BO> for ALL known virii and variants. You're making a big deal to make BO> yourself look good and someone else look bad because the opportunity is BO> there. Ben, he doesn't have to try to make you look bad, you do the job extremely well without any outside assistance. From what I've seen of both of your (you and Mike Shannon's) posts, he knows a heck of a lot more about viruses than you do, though that doesn't take much! BO> Wrong...Scan v108 was release just after and they need a license to BO> use it. They can't use the shareware versions. Ben, Ben, Ben, how is it that SCAN v108 was on the same disk then?? Are they using some new manufacturing technique that allows you to add files after the disk is already in the stores? As for the license thing, although I'm a college student (not a businessman) I do believe that most, if not all licenses (at least SCAN's) allow you to use the new version of the product as long as you have a site license before it comes out. I'm not absolutely sure on that one, and I'll tell ya so I don't make a fool of myself like you have. Quit trying to justify your prior flubs with new ones. BO> I think the most recent LICENSED scanner was used at the time the CD BO> was put together. It takes a while for the license to be processed, BO> does it not? Therefore, it was not their fault. Whatever... MS> Sincerely, MS> Mike Shannon MS> Starvector Software BO> Blow it... The last person I heard say "Blow it" was about 15 years old. Obviously, you must be about the same age or of the same intellect. You know what I love about your posts Ben? You have absolutely NO idea what you're talking about, yet you state it as fact. I love to correct you and make you look stupid when I'm bored. Why don't you respond, I'd love to argue with you again sometime, but PLEASE learn SOMETHING about viruses before you do! I can't have a battle of the wits with you while you're totally unarmed! Merry Christmas! HO HO HO Dave ... Your ignorance cramps my conversation. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE ELLISON Number: 10600 To: BENJAMIN ORTIZ Date: 12/24/93 11:01p Subj: Re: Virus Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Benjamin Ortiz said this to Chad Reid on 12-17-93 18:24 *** BO> Read my post to Mike Shannon (...yeck...) about this. BO> I'm not going to repeat myself if I don't have to. Thank you, I can only take so much arrogance and b.s. in one day! <Bo> Appropriate initials. Dave ... If you can't be offensive WHY BOTHER? ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CASE ZWART Number: 10601 To: JOHN ULLMER Date: 12/30/93 4:30p Subj: Re: New Nec Cd Rom Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John, lucky you! My grandchildren gave me a Pro Audio Studio 16 for Xmas which has "SCSI-Industry Standard CD-ROM interface". Does this mean that if I buy the NEC 3x internal that I will not require any extra cables or adapters? Case. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff086/c] * Origin: DSC BBS * Ivyland, PA * 215-443-7390 * 6,000 SIGS! * (1:273/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CLAUDIO ROGERIO Number: 10602 To: TONY KONG Date: 12/27/93 6:11p Subj: Re: Panasonic CR-563 !!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CR> CR> I don't know if this is a news, but I heard that Panasonic has CR> CR> devoloped a new CD-ROM called CR-563, above MPC2. And I want to CR> kwon CR> CR> the differences between that one and CR-562B. CR> CR> TK> They are basically the same drive. CR-563 is made for Creative CR> Lab and CR> TK> market as the OMNI CD. CR> CR> CR> And why the magazine considers it "Above MPC2?" TK> This kind of terms are meaningless as well as misleading. MPC2 TK> specificed an access time of 350ms. Since the Panasonic rated the TK> drive at 320ms, it can be considered above MPC2 standard, but it really TK> doesn't say much, does it? He. In that way, almost CD players will be "Above MPC2!" Funny! []'s Claudio Rogerio ... I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere! --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR] * Origin: CONTACT BBS-RJ-[Line @]-Tel:55-21-2937884 -= 5 Lines =- (4:802/3.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS SOBOTKIEWICZ Number: 10603 To: ALL Date: 12/29/93 11:03a Subj: ENCARTA CD ENCYCLOPEDIA Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No HEELLPP! Im having problems with my ENCARTA 94 CD. I cant Search for text, (except for contents), search for animations, videos, or audios, OORR Images! I says stuff like enc94i2.dll cannpot be accessed, or MVMCI2.dll cannot be accessed, and when trying to search topics, it says could not create the bneccessary file for searching. Does anyone have encarta? Or know what the problems might be? I have those two files in the Windows, Windows\System and the \encarta directory! But nothing works! Help! Please! ///// // ///// hris --- RoboBOARD/FX 1.00e * Origin: Mister Dude's Wild Ride ! (414)289-0708 Milwaukee (1:154/848) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY GREENMAN Number: 10604 To: TOM MILLER Date: 12/28/93 7:53a Subj: Re: sony double speed cd- Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Tom Miller to All <=- TM> Greetings All ! TM> I'm having trouble installing my Sony drive I got for Christmas. The TM> a instatcd.exe that has drivers on it, specifically the mscdex.exe TM> which generates a driver "/d:mscd000" that my computer a DTK 50mhz does TM> not recongnize. Can anyone help me out. Tom how many TOTAL drives do you have? And did you put the statement in you config.sys. That might be your problem? example.. LASTDRIVE=Z ... "Blue Wavers" are folks who love Blue Wave Offline Mail Products! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- WM v3.10/91-0237 * Origin: The Oratory BBS 12 Roms online 72,000+ Files! (1:2201/9.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 10605 To: CHRIS ZITO Date: 12/29/93 6:23p Subj: Doom on a GUS? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey Chirs, hows it going having talked to you in a while, well I have played the game and love that sound aswell, well I had some problems getting the music to work but I fixed it, well TTYL. Ashwin --- WM v2.03/92-0157 * Origin: Hawk's Nest BBS Methuen, Ma. (508) 688-1979(1:324/123) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN THOMPSON Number: 10606 To: BAYANI CUSTODIO Date: 12/29/93 9:29a Subj: Cd encyclopedias Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BC> I have Compton's and to tell you the truth, I'm less than thrilled with BC> it. I don't think they even have a quarter the data in there I would BC> expect from a good encyclopedia. Despite their claim that Compton's is "designed for students of all ages," it *DOES* seem geared mostly to Elementary or Middle School level students. My son (age 8) finds it to be useful, but I agree that it would not be appropriate for a serious scholar. It *IS* very nice for those younger students, though, so we have a copy of Compton's on CD for the kids, and Britannica (in book form) for the adults :-) * KingQWK 1.05 # 39 * Superstition brings bad luck. --- GEcho 1.02/beta+ * Origin: APPLEGATE; Neenah, Wisconsin. USA (COM2) (1:139/632) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN THOMPSON Number: 10607 To: JOHN ULLMER Date: 12/29/93 9:40a Subj: Lots 'O Questions! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JW> Finally, my last question for all you techies (And I appreciate JW> this!)... I'm probably gonna come off looking like a fool for asking JW> this, but since I'm new to CD-ROM I'll ask it anyways! I am under the JW> impression that CD-ROM main advantage is the fact that EVERYTHING is on JW> the CD... no more pinched hard drive space. Is this true? JU> All the games I have require at least 10 Meg. on the HD. Two JU> of them take close to 20 meg. The only CD I ever saw that didn't JU> require files on the HD was a PC-Sig shareware disk I got a few JU> years back. The only CD game I have so far (Carmen Sandiego Deluxe) uses only about 45k of hard disk space; just enough for the program loader and saved games. * KingQWK 1.05 # 39 * Superstition brings bad luck. --- GEcho 1.02/beta+ * Origin: APPLEGATE; Neenah, Wisconsin. USA (COM2) (1:139/632) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD MONTOYA Number: 10608 To: ALL Date: 12/30/93 7:25a Subj: SBLASTER/CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I was reading in the Sound Blaster manual that it can be used as an interface for a CD-ROM. Apparently some special instructions and/or hardware are needed as I could not get it to work. The CD-ROM drive is an older Mitsumi and came with its own card. It worked reasonably well but I would like to eliminate one card from my computer just in case I ever need the extra slot. Does anyone out there have any experience with this subject. If so, any help would be appriciated on my part. The bord is a Sound Blaster Pro. Thanks. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Health Professions *ZyXEL* (915) 590-9798 (1:381/61) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KENNY SCOTT Number: 10609 To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 12/30/93 9:50p Subj: Re: CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BO> Kenny, you have a number of units to select from !! You can use a Texel or BO> Toshiba, either of these units will fit the above requirements. BO> As for price, the Texel 3028 is priced at $379.00 with controller and the BO> Toshiba 3401 is priced at $369.00 without controller. BO> If you need further assistance, please feel free to give us a call at BO> 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to assist you further as we carry BO> every major brand cdrom player on the market. BO> Hope this helps... Thank you for the reply. I'll look into it! Also, could you send me some information on these two CD-ROM Drives? Such as the technical specs, and stuff? I'd really appreciate it...if you could netmail it to me at 1:381/116 to make it even faster, that would be great! Thanks for the time and help! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: The Underground BBS - *3* Interplanetary BRE Leagues! (1:381/116) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN VIKSTROM Number: 10610 To: ALL Date: 12/30/93 7:34a Subj: Sound Blaster Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have a Sound Blaster Pro multimedia sound card. It was originally installed in a 386. Worked just fine. I then had the card and CD Rom transferred to my 486. This is when the annoyance began. The sound became scratchy. It was as if the speakers picked up noise from the CD Rom somehow. Any similar experiences? All tips welcome. Thank you all --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: <<Air Jordan>> Nanaimo, BC (1:351/235) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON WEST Number: 10611 To: ALL Date: 12/30/93 8:40a Subj: CACHES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Just wondeing if anybody out there uses a software cache for there cd rom. I saw a program in the stores called "Lightning" and was wondering how well it worked.. I tried the CacheAll if it was totally worthless.. so if anybody has seen one working well please let me know. Jason --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: The SANDBOX ** MultiLine TBBS ** (405)737-9540 (1:147/34) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PETER PRASAD Number: 10612 To: MIKE DIAMOND Date: 12/30/93 1:42a Subj: Re: DRM604X Controller Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Mike Diamond to All <=- MD> Will the Pioneer DRM604X CD-Rom work with any of the MD> available sound cards with SCSI controller? Or should I MD> buy a dedicated SCSI controller? MD> -!- GEcho 1.00 MD> ! Origin: DiamondBack BBS 3117-62-8901 (6:731/19) Depends if the SCSI interface is propritery or standard, you will need a set of drivers from the sound card manufacture, i know for PAS16 you do and they do support 604x, however check the manuel or a call to the card manufactures CS will provide that info to you. Peter ... Catch the Blue Wave! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Exchange OS/2 BBS Prince George V32bis (1:359/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BAYANI CUSTODIO Number: 10613 To: BRIAN ECKBLAD Date: 12/28/93 4:03p Subj: Omni Cd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BE>I have a Omni CD-ROM, I can not get it to load the driver BE>MSCDEX "or something like that" When I try to load the BE>driver is says NOT ENOUGH DRIVE LETTERS AVAILABLE. Well I Check for the parameter LASDTDRIVE=G in your config.sys or autoexec.bat. Not quite sure which one it should be in. However if you raise it to something like LASTDRIVE=Z you'll have enough drive letters. See yah later Bayani ___ X DeLuxe2 1.25 #703sa X VAGABOND'S DREAM in a VOID() --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB (204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID CHRISTENSEN Number: 10614 To: ALL Date: 12/29/93 10:06p Subj: Day of the tentacle Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I was wondering if anybody has had any problems getting this game to work from cd-rom. I can get the game to configure itself to my hard drive, but when it comes time to load it it only gets to the part where the purple tentacle is about to take a drink. Once it gets to that point, it appears the the animation continues on in a loop waiting for the audio track to complete itself. The audio track slows down to a total crawl in as much as what the purple tentacle says comes out in snall pieces with about 45 seconds between each piece. I can get Seventh Guest to work perfectly so I don't think it's the hardware. My current system is as follows: ATI Wonder XL video card with 1 meg Sound blaster 16 card Panasonic 562-b cd-rom 386dx40 with 4 megs Does anybody have any ideas??? --- WM v3.10/93-0078 * Origin: FidoNet: Culloden BBS: 204-488-1560 (1:348/603) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS WARDMAN Number: 10615 To: CARL REEK Date: 12/30/93 9:01p Subj: Mitsumi/Windows NT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Re: Mitsumi/Windows NT Hope everything goes well... Happy Holidays! Caio... .\\Tom~~ --- VFIDO 6.10.05 * Origin: Just Another BBS (1:358/20) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHUMKO Number: 10616 To: MARSHALL FREEDLAND Date: 12/30/93 5:49a Subj: NEC-38 MULTISPIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No No frozen fingers on my part. It's really a CDR-83M. It works fine now that NEC has replaced it with the correct model. The 83M is an internal drive whose front panel is labeled "NEC Intersect CD-ROM Reader". The only light is the busy light. I like it fine now that it works properly, though I would prefer not to have to deal with the trays or caddies. I would rather slide the CD into the drive like in a car CD player, or onto a sliding tray like a home CD player. /Mike ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Deep Cove BBS - White Rock, B.C., Canada (604)536-5885 (1:153/915) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAREK WOLOSZ Number: 10617 To: BAYANI CUSTODIO Date: 12/29/93 10:20p Subj: Cd encyclopedias Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No HI! About CD Rom encyclopedies: J use Groliers on my home computer and J've had some experiences with Microsofts Encarta. My opinion is that if you are going to buy one try Groliers - it is much cheaper (here in Sweden at least ...). Encarta is certainly a good multimedia stuff, it has a great number of photos and sounds (in short supply in Groliers) but if you are looking for facts, the Groliers is a good choice in my opinion. J hope this helps Happy New Year! Darek --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: ≡WPUG2≡ WindowPcUserGroup 08-54065265-73-27 (2:201/333) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE MORRELL Number: 10618 To: ALL Date: 12/29/93 6:06p Subj: CDROM Multichanger Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I currently run a "CDROM" door here, and would like to install a multi cdrom system. My door program supports such a unit, but I cannot seem to locate one. I think Panasonic was the model mentioned and it holds 6 cd's. Can anyone help? Regards Mike --- QScan v1.03b * Origin: Fleet BBS (216) 646 0655 (1:157/583) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 10619 To: GREG HASKINS Date: 12/30/93 8:28a Subj: Re: Echo test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 27 Dec 93 13:09:00, I heard Greg Haskins shout to All: GH> This is a test of Renegade and Squish ... Well Renegade and Squish you are doing a GREAT Job !!! I myself use Renegade and Squish... Glad to see another Renegade SysOp. ....|<evin --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: The Softwares Zone (1:231/570) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL MOSS Number: 10620 To: ALL Date: 12/28/93 5:52p Subj: Turbo Duo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No A good CD-ROM for any PC is also a Super-CD ROm game system. It is called Turbo Duo. WIth a special interface, Turbo Duo will hook up to any PC. Turbo Duo also plays any Music CD's CD+G(Graphics) disks, Old Turbographix-16 CD's , and is also compatible with Karoke. The System is about $300 and I believe comes with 5 games. It's available at Electronics Boutique, Babbages, Sears Catalog, and Toys "r" us. If you want a really cool game for Turbo Duo, get Lords Of Thunder! --- QuickBBS 2.76 Ovr * Origin: SSBBS (1:231/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LOUIS BERKOWITZ Number: 10621 To: MARK WALKER Date: 12/31/93 12:51a Subj: Hard Day's Night Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > I recently read in a magazine that they are coming out -> > with the movie A -> > Hard Day's Night on CD-Rom format, does anyone have -> > this, where did you -> > get it and how is it? -> -> I don't have it but I've seen it at Babagges, Best Buy and Egghead. Thanks, I found it at Electronics Boutique and picked it up, its very good and plays very well on my 386/40 with a single speed CD and Trident video board. That brings up another point, Minimum requirements on packages, are companies being payed by hardware companies to put higher requirements then necessary? The package for Hard Days Night said that the minimum processor is a 486sx/25 (even though I consider my 386/40 to be better or, at least even with a sx/25). Also with Sherlock Holmes it said minimum 385ms cd access time and my cheap drive falls quite above that and it works fine... --- WM v3.10/92-0413 * Origin: The Magic Dominion 1:107/614 n.j. 908-583-7894 16.8 (1:107/614.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE MACHULIS Number: 10622 To: REMY DE.RUYSSCHER Date: 12/30/93 4:02p Subj: Re: *~Custom CD-ROMs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I think he siad it was 197.95.... A bit steep for me... --- ■ TLX v3.30 ■ A fool and his money is my kind of customer! --- D'Bridge/GEcho/RA * Origin: o Altered Reality - iNsaNiTY o (1:3815/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE MACHULIS Number: 10623 To: KENNY SCOTT Date: 12/30/93 4:16p Subj: Re: CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Kenny Scott wrote ╒═══════════════════════════════╕ ▌█▐I am looking for a CD-ROM drive with these specifications: ▌█▐Double Speed or higher ▌█▐250 or less seek time ▌█▐300-350 or more KB transfer ▌█▐*Gravis Ultrasound Compatible ▌█▐Windows compatibility ▌█▐* = optional ╘═══════════════════════════════╛ The one I have supports all othese things... It's a Mitsumi FX001D... Here are the exact hardware speifications... Access Time: 250ms Data Tranfer: 300ms (Mode 1) 350ms (Mode 2) Price: $199.95 ... Hole drilled in ladies' room wall; police looking into it --- ■ TLX v3.30 ■ --- D'Bridge/GEcho/RA * Origin: o Altered Reality - iNsaNiTY o (1:3815/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE MACHULIS Number: 10624 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 12/30/93 4:17p Subj: Re: CD-ROM'S...WHAT'S NEW? Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No Mike Shannon wrote ╒═══════════════════════════════╕ ▒▌▀ VIRTUAL REALITY STARTER KIT * The "next dimension" for ▒▌▀your PC ╘═══════════════════════════════╛ Could you give me a bit more information on this CD? --- ■ TLX v3.30 ■ <-------------The information went data way ------------> --- D'Bridge/GEcho/RA * Origin: o Altered Reality - iNsaNiTY o (1:3815/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE MACHULIS Number: 10625 To: JASON WAGNER Date: 12/30/93 4:27p Subj: Re: Lots 'O Questions! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jason Wagner wrote ╒═══════════════════════════════╕ ▄░▄ ▄░▄Also, can the GUS support this drive? I want to buy the Gravis, but ▄░▄I want it to be able to control the drive (I have ONE expansion slot ▄░▄left! <G>) and does it have a high-speed (as in DX2-66) game port? I think it is.... ▄░▄ ▄░▄Finally, my last question for all you techies (And I appreciate ▄░▄this!)... I'm probably gonna come off looking like a fool for asking ▄░▄this, but since I'm new to CD-ROM I'll ask it anyways! I am under the ▄░▄impression that CD-ROM main advantage is the fact that EVERYTHING is on ▄░▄the CD... no more pinched hard drive space. Is this true? I have ▄░▄worked with an excyclopedia CD-ROM as school and installed it... it ▄░▄told me that it needed appx 20 MB of space on the HD to run!!! Does ▄░▄every CD need to put something on the HD (I know games might need to ▄░▄put save games and such on...)??! ╘═══════════════════════════════╛ Most stuff does.... --- ■ TLX v3.30 ■ 427 TECHIES UNITE (so i can ask for help) --- D'Bridge/GEcho/RA * Origin: o Altered Reality - iNsaNiTY o (1:3815/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE MACHULIS Number: 10626 To: TOM CZACHOR Date: 12/30/93 4:29p Subj: Re: MEGA CD-ROMS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tom Czachor wrote ╒═══════════════════════════════╕ ▒░▒I am looking for some new CD's for my BBS, I have So Much Shareware ▒░▒1,2,3 and NightOwl 7,8,9 and want something different. ╘═══════════════════════════════╛ Try Pier 2 or Cream of the Crop 2...... --- ■ TLX v3.30 ■ Shareware it only works if you pay. --- D'Bridge/GEcho/RA * Origin: o Altered Reality - iNsaNiTY o (1:3815/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE MACHULIS Number: 10627 To: MICHAEL GARBER Date: 12/30/93 4:36p Subj: Re: Writable? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Michael Garber wrote ╒═══════════════════════════════╕ █▌▒What is the current story on writable CD-ROM's? Just a curiosity. ╘═══════════════════════════════╛ All I know is that there expensive.... ... Funny how no sysops have complained over the "extra expense". --- ■ TLX v3.30 ■ --- D'Bridge/GEcho/RA * Origin: o Altered Reality - iNsaNiTY o (1:3815/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEREK STUTSMAN Number: 10628 To: ALL Date: 12/30/93 7:52p Subj: UFO CD Rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I just picked up the "UFO" CD-Rom, and I have to say I am VERY VERY disappointed with it! It supposedly has 1200 "sightings" on disc, with video pictures, animations, etc. However, the "search" interface is very clunky, and many sightings have a 3-4 line description with no picture or video available. The ones that do have a video clip mainly consist of a tiny blip flying around at a very choppy rate (even on my double spin drive.) I want to warn anyone who buys this to be _sure_ the store has a good return policy! Derek Stutsman * Wave Rider 1.01 [NR] * ... UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- Blue Wave/Maximus * Origin: Code 3 BBS *Lewisville,TX* 214-436-8753/221-7139 (1:124/6106) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 10629 To: DOUG SCHWANTES Date: 12/30/93 12:25a Subj: CD ROM DISK CATALOG Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DS>Hi Thomas sorry to but-in but I know of a few suppliers of X-Rated CD-ROm's DS>here they are, DS>Star Vector Software Orders/Info (509)457-2892 Orders only (800)767-1284 Nope, sorry. You must have us confused with someone else. We only sell the "R"-rated and softcore adult titles. No X-rated material. Later, .\\ike Shannon Starvector Software * SLMR 2.1a * ... He who hesitates is frost. - Eskimo proverb --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 10630 To: GARY HUFF Date: 12/30/93 12:25a Subj: Virus Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GH>OK, I can live with that, and that's a more reasonable approach. GH>Incidentally, can you give me a recommendation? I currently have the GH>Nightowl 10 and the Pier 3 Cd's on-line. What would be a good third GH>one to add that wouldn't duplicate the existing two? Or would I be Give Powerbox 2 a try. Only about a week old, with file dates as late as mid-November. 8% dupes to NO10, and 13% dupes to Pier 3. In stock at $29 if you're interested, or you can get release 1 and 2 together for $35. Later, .\\ike STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5 * SLMR 2.1a * Is it '96 yet??? --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 10631 To: ALL Date: 12/30/93 12:25a Subj: CD-ROM SALE! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No | Starvector Sales Bulletin #4: CD-ROM LIQUIDATION! | Mega Clipart........$22 Shareware Studio 2..$16 Wrath of the Demon..$27 World Vision 3-Pak..$37 Business Phonebk 91.$13 Bookshelf 1992......$32 Mac Shareware.......$17 Precision Mapping...$66 Mac M/M Space.......$29 CD Winbox...........$17 DTPro...............$24 Talking Jungle Safa.$29 Library of Future...$37 Home Designer.......$27 Arizona Images......$19 Cinemania 1993......$52 Software Vault 1....$15 CD Powerbox.........$13 King's Quest V......$17 Hobbes OS/2 1992....$10 Sights & Sounds.....$21 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs. 509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) **** VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SLMR 2.1a * I used to have a life. Now I have Windows. --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 10632 To: ALL Date: 12/30/93 12:26a Subj: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No | Starvector Sales Bulletin #5: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS | 7. Software Vault 1 8. Pier 2 9. Monster Media 93 Software Vault 2 Pier 3 Shareware Online 2 Software Vault Gold CD Powerbox 2 Shareware Studio 3 ------------------- ------------- ------------------ $54 $59 $65 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs. 509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!) * SLMR 2.1a * Is it '96 yet??? --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVEN STEPP Number: 10633 To: HUGH CRAIG Date: 12/29/93 10:05p Subj: Re: VIDEO OUTPUT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thanks for the reply. I added a new video driver to the system which seems to help, however, I need more video RAM. Maybe i should just chuck the entire system and start over...know anyone interested? --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: The File Bank, Inc. (303) 534-4646 - Files, Files, Files (1:104/899) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN ECKBLAD Number: 10634 To: MAX GREEN Date: 12/29/93 11:48a Subj: Re: OMNI CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thanks It worked Later Brian --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: The File Bank, Inc. (303) 534-4646 - Files, Files, Files (1:104/899) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK POLANSKY Number: 10635 To: ALL Date: 12/21/93 9:45p Subj: Dell Sound Blaster CDROMs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dell factory outlet has been selling Sound Blaster CDROMs for $99. I bought one and then had to buy a CD caddy and then had to buy a 4 pin Audio cable and then had to buy a 40 pin IDE cable. NOW, where in the hell do I get the drivers to make this damn good deal work!! If someone could tell me where to get them or upload them to me I would be digitally greatful. --- WM v3.10/92-0288 * Origin: *Enterprise BBS* Austin, Tx. 1-512-453-5079 (1:382/81) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALLEN DIETZ Number: 10636 To: KIRK BAXTER Date: 12/22/93 6:48a Subj: World Atlas Programs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KB> Does anyone know of an atlas program that has really detailed maps, KB> such that one can zoom in for detail, and equal the detail of book KB> atlases? Global Explorer from DeLorme Mapping at (207) 865-1234 has an outstanding Windows-based world map program with seamless maps (you can click on the side of your screen and "walk" all around the world), the capability to zoom in and out, major road systems, city maps for major world cities, topographic lines, and much, much more. In my opinion it is by far the best world atlas available on the market today. Allen * OLX 2.2 * Without waves there can be no change --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Hub/2 (1:382/1201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG DEERE Number: 10637 To: GARY HUFF Date: 12/22/93 4:37p Subj: Re: Good ShareWare CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Gary, I missed the earlier msg. regarding the name of the good shareware you are refering to. Could you tell me the name of good CD shareware and sources for same? There was a nice brochure passed out at the Nov. Windows sig mtg. in Austin but no name or order form. Thanks for any and all help! --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The HUB * Austin TX * Centex PCUG * 512-346-1852 (1:382/1201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED CORREIA Number: 10638 To: HEATHER KRAUSE Date: 12/24/93 1:55p Subj: Cinemania Problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No HK>EC>Is anyone else having problems with MS Cinemania? I have a Tseng 4000 HK>EC>video card and have been told that the reson I keep getting a General HK>EC>Protection fault is due to a VGA driver my card uses. HK> I don't know about this particular card and setup, but do you HK> have it set for a 256 color driver? Actually, I have Tseng drivers for 16 and 256 colors and a variety of resulutions, unfortunately the problems persist. Thanks anyway, and Merry Christams! --Ed Correia --- ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ All wiyht. Rho sritched mg kegtops awound? --- GOMail v1.2 [DEMO] 01-19-94 * Origin: CAXIUS BBS - San Leandro, CA [510-895-6961] (1:215/42) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED CORREIA Number: 10639 To: STEVE KRAISLER Date: 12/24/93 1:57p Subj: Cinemania Problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SK>EC>Is anyone else having problems with MS Cinemania? I have a Tseng 4000 SK>EC>video card and have been told that the reson I keep getting a General SK>EC>Protection fault is due to a VGA driver my card uses. I thought I was SK>EC>using the latest drivers, but now I am not so sure. SK>I don't have Cinemania but I do have MS Encarta and experienced the same SK>trouble. I have a Paradise SSPro and called them to get a upgrade for SK>the video driver. I only experienced the fault when I was using 800x600 SK>x256 large fonts. Even through I installed the newest driver the SK>problem persisted. I had to go back to the default 800x600x256 large SK>fonts supplied by windows. Sadly, I have tried using drivers of differing colors and resulutions but the problems persists. --Ed Correia --- ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ Back Up My Hard Drive? I Can't Find The Reverse Switch! --- GOMail v1.2 [DEMO] 01-19-94 * Origin: CAXIUS BBS - San Leandro, CA [510-895-6961] (1:215/42) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WEE YUNG Number: 10640 To: ALL Date: 12/31/93 12:31p Subj: Tripple speed CDROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No All brand new with manufacture warranty. CD-ROM Mitsumi CRMC LU-005S w/contlr 630MB, 350ms, Kodak comp. $169 CD-ROM Mitsumi FX001D double spin.250ms 300k/s 32k cache Inter.$209 CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms Double spin.300k/s 64k cache.Inter.$209 CD-ROM MicroSolution Parallel port 350ms 128k cache caddyless..$359 CD-ROM NEC 3XI SCSI Tripple spin 195ms External.$589/Internal..$489 CD-ROM NEC 3XP SCSI Portable 250ms.............................$439 CD-ROM Toshiba 4101b SCSI D spin, 300k/s 320ms, 256k cache $269. CD-ROM Toshiba MX3401b SCSI D spin,Kodak comp.200ms, 256k cache$369. Price does not included shipping. Internet WEE%ghs.UUCP@USC.edu Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC 16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra * OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240 --- Maximus 2.00 * Origin: Long_Island RB (310) 370-4113 VAX EC (HST 16.8K/V32b) (1:102/138) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WEE YUNG Number: 10641 To: ALL Date: 12/31/93 12:31p Subj: Multimedia kit onsale Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No All brand new with manufacture warranty. Multimedia kit. SB Pro+Pana 522B CDROM+4 CDs+Speakers..........$339. Creative Lab Discovery 8. D spin CDROM+SB Pro+2CDs+Speakers....$359. Creative Lab Discovery 16.D spin CDROM+SB 16 +2CDs+Speakers....$419. Creative Lab Digitalege D spin CDROM+SB16 ASP+4CDs+Speakers/mic$649 Media Vision Pro 16 + NEC 55J D spin 350ms+speakers............$429. Media Vision Fusion Double16. PAS16+NEC D spin 350ms+speakers..$599 Media Vision Pro 16 + Toshiba 3401B+speakers+6 titles..........$599 Mitsumi CDROM+Sound Galaxy NX Pro card free speakers...........$279 Price does not included shipping. Internet WEE%ghs.UUCP@USC.edu Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC 16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra * OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240 --- Maximus 2.00 * Origin: Long_Island RB (310) 370-4113 VAX EC (HST 16.8K/V32b) (1:102/138) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WEE YUNG Number: 10642 To: ALL Date: 12/31/93 12:31p Subj: CDROM title onsale Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TRUC 16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723 fax 310-402-7240 Call 310-602-2076 8am-12pm, 6pm-9pm PST ask Wee Yung. 7th Guest full motion game......$39 101 Sex positions movie.........$79 Family Education Programs Collec$29 Family choice/ Britannica.......$29 Family Doctor Dos/Mac...........$29 Great Cities Vol. I or V II.....$35 Guinness Disk of Record 93 MPC..$29 Guinness Disk of Records no MPC.$19* Games Pack II...................$25 International Bus & Econ Atlas..$29 IBM OS/2 v2.1 upgrade...........$99 IBM OS/2 v2.1 regular...........$149 Jones In fast Lane MPC..........$19* Jets & Props MPC 2CDs...........$29 King's Quest V game.............$19* Kodak Photo access..............$19* Library of Future 1rst..........$55 Loom From Lucas Film..Game......$19* Macromedia Action for Windows...$69 Mavis Teaches Typing MPC........$25 Macmullan Dict. for Children....$35 Mayo Clinic Family Health Book..$29 Add $3 for shipping and handling. No exchange for difference titles. * OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240 --- Maximus 2.00 * Origin: Long_Island RB (310) 370-4113 VAX EC (HST 16.8K/V32b) (1:102/138) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON WEIR Number: 10643 To: STEVE MANN Date: 12/30/93 10:44a Subj: A Hard year Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SM> CD FAILED. We have been trying to get this cd for SM> some time. Anything coming up on Bach? SM> For more information contact us in the new year. I'll be interested in your latest catalog then.... --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Sydney PC Users Group - COMPAQ BBS (4 lines) (3:712/505) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY MARTIN Number: 10644 To: PETER JETSON Date: 12/29/93 7:21p Subj: Goliers V6 and MS Encarta Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Empire BBS +61-3-591-0020, 592-5662 (3:632/530) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY MARTIN Number: 10645 To: SIMON CHUNG Date: 12/29/93 7:36p Subj: Goliers V6 and MS Encarta Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No pj> SC> Can you give me a price on MS Encarta 94 (Educational pj> SC> price) and tell me how good or bad is Goliers v6 compare to pj> SC> it. I have both encyclopedias and I rate Encarta the best because of its huge amounts of multimedia extras. There are heaps and heaps of great pictures and sounds, whereas the multimedia features in Grolier are fairly sparse. Encarta also includes a better atlas and timeline than Groliers. I don't think the quality of the text differs a great amount between the two so I'd go for Encarta. Cheers, Tony --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Empire BBS +61-3-591-0020, 592-5662 (3:632/530) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEOFF BOWES Number: 10646 To: BOB CROCKFORD Date: 12/29/93 9:51p Subj: SB setup Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BC>You need a modified driver to achieve that... The 562 (OEM BC>version) is slightly different to the 563 which is what CL BC>bundles in their kits. BC>The drivers for the 562 start at address 300 and go up, the Hmmm, that's strange...The problem was solved with a /sbp:220 switch. Obviously the differences between the 562b & 563 are minimal. Geoff... --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Empire BBS +61-3-591-0020, 592-5662 (3:632/530) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HAWORTH Number: 10647 To: BOB MILLER Date: 12/30/93 9:26p Subj: SB16 Installation Disk Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to All, Bob Miller said: > I am having trouble running the install program that came > with a friend's system. I have an SB16 with ASP on a > 386-DX40 and he has an SB16 without ASP on a 486-33. I can > run the installation on my machine with both my diskettes and > his diskettes, but I can't run the installation on his > machine at all - it keeps failing to recognise that diskette > 2 has been inserted and keeps on rquesting that disk 2 be > loaded. I got rid of any mention of SMARTDRV in his config Try getting another copy of Disk #2 as the disk might not be 100% ok. Alternatively maybe your friends floppies are a little bit out of alignment so has trouble reading some disks particularly marginal disks. Has he experienced any probs with other disks. eg. he can't format some blank floppies which when inserted in your machine work perfectly. Just a thought anyway. --- * Origin: Ted's Skiing Substitute, Sydney +61-2-686-4192 (3:713/306) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALLAN MIKKELSEN Number: 10648 To: ROD SPEED Date: 12/31/93 10:39a Subj: Cd Rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Rod Speed to Poe Lim <=- RS> We appear to be talking about completely different problems. 4.12 just RS> gives a 'divide by zero' or something very close error message when RS> that line is executed in the CONFIG.SYS. Nothing to do with model RS> number detection. And when that problem is seen with the SB16 alone, RS> not with the other SBs, it cant be the model number of the CDROM drive RS> thats the problem, cos the only variable is the sound card used. I think your problem is something else again. I run a 563 (the Creative Labs version) off a SB16 ASP using the version 4.12 drivers with NO problems at all. Regards, Allan ... Catch the Blue Wave! --- GEcho 1.02/beta+ * Origin: The InterACTive BBS - Canberra ACT - (06) 292-6200 (3:620/243) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DICK LECOMPTE Number: 10649 To: ALL Date: 12/31/93 8:25a Subj: science,math & educ.CD-ROMS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I am looking for some CD's that concentrate on science,engineering ,math and education files.I dont want gifs,games utitities etc.If anyone knows of any I please lrt me know.....$,and source would be appreciated.Thanks,Dick. --- msged 2.05 * Origin: Dick's_point of Cuckoo's Nest : Hudson, NH (1:132/119.8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOSEPH ROBERTSON Number: 10650 To: DAVID WATT Date: 12/31/93 10:53p Subj: Return to zork memory Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DW>My problem is that the memory requirements are such that I can not DW>load the DW>mouse driver to play it, I can only play it with the keyboard. My DW>computer is DW>set up as follows: DW>Config.sys DW>DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE DW>HIMEM 1072 DW>EMM386 6848 DW>CDMKE43 11440 DW>COMMAND 2624 DW>MSCDEX 15840 DW>MSCMOUSE 13744 DW>FREE 64 DW>FREE 128 DW>FREE 585584 DW>TOTAL FREE: 585776 DW>Largest executable program size : 585424 DW>Ms Dos Resident in High Memory Area DW>Return to Zork says I need 5120 bytes more free memory. Even though you have specified your drivers to load high, you are not really loading them into upper memory blocks (UMB's). You need to add the RAM switch to your emm386.exe line in config.sys. Your config.sys file should have the following: DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE RAM DOS=HIGH,UMB This should give you over 600k free conventional memory. Internet: robertson.joseph@7thwave.scssi.com === * CmpQwk #UNREG * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- InterEcho 1.00/b04 * Origin: TSUNAMI - Catch the Wave! Ponte Vedra FL - 1:112/75 (1:112/75) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOEL WHITE Number: 10651 To: RANDI RELANDER Date: 12/29/93 8:43a Subj: BattleTech Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I was running a campaign on my bbs (the Fantasy Wilderlands) but I've been down for over a year while I train for a new job. It really isn't difficult. And I'm for a Battletech conference. It's my favorite game! ___ X MegaMail 2.10 #0:Fantasy Wilderlands - Best in Fantasy Gaming. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Sonoma Online (1:125/7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 10652 To: BERND NURNBERGER Date: 01/01/94 12:25a Subj: Re: CDROM Systems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 29 Dec 93 08:03pm, Bernd Nurnberger wrote to Boris Osadciw: BO>> Groilers Encyc DOS v6. $49. 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Without Silver Xpress, I DO NO MAIL! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 10653 To: ALL Date: 01/01/94 1:59a Subj: HOT CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No C R E A M O F T H E C R O P I I OVER 654 MEGS New Shareware 4987 Files Dated '93' Dup Checked Virus Checked Files.BBS Support Multi Line Discription Mouse Support Menu 14Megs Prog Code Plus MORE !!! Only 200 prog Older Than April '93' - 10% Dup to NO10, Pier3, Software Gold DEALERS WELCOME....... PRICE - $25. ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759 Boris Osadciw ... Silver Xpress!...... Now 100% QWK Compatible! More bang for your bucks! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 10654 To: ALL Date: 01/01/94 1:59a Subj: NEW CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No A L L N E W C D "S O M U C H M O D E M M A D N E S S" 7,200 Files Over 600+ Megs BBS Ready Rip Graphics - BBS Doors - BBS Programs - Modem Utils - Ham Radio Desqview - Ansi Graphics - Programming - OS/2 Communcation - Comm Prgs Networking Utils - Netmail Progs - Win Communcation - Transfer Protocol and a whole lot more...... Price - $25.00 ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759 Boris Osadciw ... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NORM HILL Number: 10655 To: BOB CROCKFORD Date: 12/31/93 1:46p Subj: Re: Sb setup Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BC>Hi Geoff, BC> BC>GB >CONFIG.SYS & BC>GB >AUTOEXEC.BAT commands are for setting up an SBPRO with a Panasonic BC>GB >562b, please? I purchased these two separately and cannot get the BC>GB >SB to interface with the CD-ROM. I know I have all the programs to BC>GB >get them up and running, but I don't know the correct syntax BC>and/or GB >switches to use, and is there a jumper on the SB that needs BC>setting GB >to enable the CD-ROM controller??? BC> BC>You need a modified driver to achieve that... The 562 (OEM version) is BC>slightly different to the 563 which is what CL bundles in their kits. BC> BC>The drivers for the 562 start at address 300 and go up, the 563 BC>drivers use 220 or 240.. Get a modified CDMKE driver (the one that BC>goes in config.sys) BC>and that should fix your probs there. BC> BC>Cya! BC>Bob BC> BC>--- Ezycom V1.02 01fa0009 BC> * Origin: Sound FX/3, Melbourne 03-749-5556 (3:633/270) to add to that, the drive comes with a driver disk with cdmke43.sys on it. I have it working with this line in my config.sys: DEVICEHIGH=C:\CDROM\CDMKE43.SYS /SBP:220 /I:5 /N Norm Hill. --- MsgToss 2.0c! (r) * Origin: Intercity RBBS, Richmond VA.(21.6DS) (1:264/152) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NORM HILL Number: 10656 To: DAVID WATT Date: 12/31/93 1:52p Subj: Re: Return to zork memory Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DW>MsgToss (continued from LAST message) DW> DW>MSCMOUSE 13744 DW>FREE 64 DW>FREE 128 DW>FREE 585584 DW> DW>TOTAL FREE: 585776 DW> DW>Largest executable program size : 585424 DW>Ms Dos Resident in High Memory Area DW> DW> DW>Return to Zork says I need 5120 bytes more free memory. DW> DW>Does anyone have a smaller mouse driver or any other solutions to my DW>problem? DW> DW>Thanks DW>Davod DW>--- FMail 0.96Γ DW> * Origin: Empire BBS +61-3-591-0020, 592-5662 (3:632/530) make these changes: ADD THE SWITCH "/NOEMS" TO THE EMM386 LINE AND ALSO LOAD IT HIGH "DEVICEHIGH= " CHANGE THE STACKS STATEMENT TO STACKS=0,0 CHANGE THE DOS=HIGH TO DOS=HIGH,UMB ADD BUFFERS=20 SEE IF THAT HELPS --- MsgToss 2.0c! (r) * Origin: Intercity RBBS, Richmond VA.(21.6DS) (1:264/152) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NANCY DAVIN Number: 10657 To: DIANE PENCIL Date: 12/31/93 7:04p Subj: Encyclopedia Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No About a month ago when I started looking at encylcopedias on CD, I was strongly advised to stay away from World Book. I was shocked! World Book is by far the best encyclopedia in print as far as I'm concerned. I know that a complete printed set costs >$600. Since then, I've been reading this echo and find that the most respected encyclopedias on CD are Encarta and Grolier's. I still haven't made up my miind yet. I saw Encarta at Best Buy today for $85 (they only had Compton's and Encarta, though, so I don't know how cheap you can get Grolier's. Good luck. By the way, I heard that World Book doesn't have their encylcopedias on CD yet! --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Icarus BBS (1:283/657) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEVIN BRUNER Number: 10658 To: ALL Date: 12/31/93 12:57a Subj: Gabriel Knight CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Anyone played this one? Let me know your thoughts on it if you have, it looks kinda interesting. Plus, I liked KQ6, and this is Sierra's next attempt in the Multimedia market! Thanks. Happy New Year! -= Kevin =- ... If it's tourist season, how come we can't shoot them? ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Phantom's Lair BBS (904)286-5575 (1:3608/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JON SCHWARTZ Number: 10659 To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 12/13/93 9:00p Subj: ANY CDS FULL OF MOSTLY S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BF>>where is source to get all of these cd's BF> There are a few of us that post our price lists regularly in CDROM_SALE and BF>CFORSALE echoes. BF> * SLMR 2.1a * Stack overflow: too many pancakes. Eat some (Y/n)? BF>--- TMail v1.31.3 BF> * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) * OLX 2.1 TD * All wiyht. Rho sritched mg kegtops awound? --- GOMail v1.2 [DEMO] 01-16-94 * Origin: Big Bobber's BBS Sunrise, Fl (305)572-3357 (1:369/147) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT MARCUS Number: 10660 To: ALL Date: 12/31/93 8:07a Subj: CD-ROM/Soundcard Question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ladies and Gentlemen. I have on order an ATI soundcard and accompanying CD-ROM drive. I was told that the ATI card is compatible with Soundblaster. I ordered this in light that no Soundblaster 16 bit ASP cards were available in my area. Plus the cost of the ATI and such considerably less. However, Soundblaster can have an attachment called the Waveblaster. Can the ATI card also have a similar upgrade? Does anyone know anything about ATI as a brand, reliability, upgrading, etc.? --- WM v3.10/92-0182 * Origin: Dr Downloads BBS (305) 746-0795 (1:369/74) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB LEAR Number: 10661 To: GARY HUFF Date: 12/17/93 7:11a Subj: CD CARE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GH>BL> I've read lots of messages on this subject, mainly on toothpaste, vs GH>BL> rouge vs etc. I can see where this might be effective for a music CD, GH>BL> but isn't a scratch on a data CD going to mean some loss of data? Won GH>BL> even a few lost bits cripple a program beyond recovery? Can you posli GH>BL> the missing bits back in? I'll be glad to stand corrected on this. GH>I'm probably going to display my utter ignorance here (which wouldn't GH>be the first time, nor will it be the last), but the data on a CD-ROM GH>disk is not actually recorded on the physical surface of the disk. GH>There is a protective overcoat covering the substrate that holds the GH>data. Obviously if the scratch is very deep and wide, some data is GH>going to be lost. But if it's a minor surface blemish, it might be GH>enough to deflect the light beam (the laser) from reading the perfectly GH>good data residing under the scratch. Polishing out the scratch merely GH>restores the light path so the laser can read the data. Again, though, GH>if it's a real gouge, then data has been removed and can't be restored GH>by polishing. Thus, polishing scratches can restore SOME disks from GH>"unreadable" to "readable" status. Not all, but some. Gary, makes sense to me. Thanks for the reply. --- ■ SLMR 2.1a ■ --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: * 20/20 TBBS * 312-769-1227 @2400 * 275-1785 @9600 (1:115/769) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THE LAWMAN Number: 10662 To: JERRY THOMSON Date: 12/31/93 12:46p Subj: 6 DISK CHANGERS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> *** Quoting Scott Redman to Jerry Thomson dated 12-25-93 *** -> > I have a DRM-600A, and am most pleased with it. I beleive there are -> > different models of the Pioneer changer. The DRM-600A is a 800mS, -> > dis-continued. Still, you should be able to find one for < $700. Gr -> > drive for a BBS! Then, there's the DRM-604X - 250mS/600K Sec/XFER R -> > That's right! 600k SEC! That's quadruple-spin. It is alo a 6 disc -> > changer, and you can find one for about $1,200. Then, there's the -> > grandaddy of them all - The DRM-1804X. It is an 18-disc changer, -> > quadruple spin with the same specs as the 604X. MSRP is approx $3K! -> -> -> I just found a place that will sell me the DMR-600A for $741 whic -> everthing including the card, cables and case. Ready to hook right u -> that sound like an ok price? -> -> -> --- GEcho 1.00 -> * Origin: Twin Star HST/DS Node 1 (810)979-6139 (1:2202/5) Damn good price, mine was 785 plus 70 for the cable and 160 for the scsi-2 card --- WM v3.01/93-0705 * Origin: Emerald City (615) 754-4351 7 gigs, 5 nodes (1:116/39.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THE LAWMAN Number: 10663 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 12/31/93 12:50p Subj: Night Owl 10 Virus Re Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No -> GMJ>I think there's been a lot of unjustified "Night Owl Bashing" lat -> all -> GMJ>you bashers out there, instead of narrowing your attention span t -> files -> GMJ>take a deep breath and look at the other five-thousand-plus file -> CD -> GMJ>some of them are real excellent. -> -> On the whole, we're not complaining about *2* virus-infected files. -> is bothersome is that these types of problems are a recurring theme w -> Night Owl's products. Almost every single shareware CD they've relea -> has contained either viruses (yes, not only NO10), commercial applica -> copyrighted GIF's, or something along those lines. After dealing wit -> this situation for years with no sign of improvement, many dealers ha -> rightfully grown frustrated, and switched to other lines like Pier, C -> of the Crop, Software Vault, Powerbox, Shareware Studio, or others th -> equal or better in overall quality, and have {somehow} managed to kee -> their track records clean. -> -> GMJ>...Plus, the Butterfly (CRUSADES strain) virus isn't all that dan -> GMJ>anyway. -> -> Very fortunate for Night Owl's sake I would say. It could have easil -> a more destructive strain that may have exposed them to a whole new s -> of lawsuits. -> -> .\\ike -> -> -> * SLMR 2.1a * Picard and Riker in '96! -> -> --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 -> * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1: And on and on you complain, give it a rest why don't ya. You got your opinion and we have ours, I'll continue to buy nightowl products and so will others. Get a life! --- WM v3.01/93-0705 * Origin: Emerald City (615) 754-4351 7 gigs, 5 nodes (1:116/39.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE WONG Number: 10664 To: STEAN SNYMAN Date: 12/30/93 8:58a Subj: Return to zork cd 4 sale Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SS>21 Dec 93 16:53, Dave Wong wrote to Stean Snyman: SS>Nope.. Sorry.. Maby you can help me.. I'm stuck in East zanzibar.. I've SS>got the sword, playd survivors (watched the corny video in SS>the hotel :)) stole rebeccas house empty, got knocked out.. SS> Went down the cliffs, bonding plant almost died. (What do SS>you do at the bottom in the comedy club?).. I met pugney you're suppose to play the jokes to the audiences. (Have you shown joke book around to rebecca, mayor, witch Itac, blacksmith?) SS>at his farm, he gave me the box, put box in the incenorator, and get wire, cool with water, use wire to get in the general store. SS>I have the hay from the cow-shed put hay down near cow, light match at hay, warm hands and milk cow with thermos, drink milk twice. Get some more milk later for the bowman. SS> What do I do with the fairy/bowman in the forest, give milk to bowman, get bow and arrow, find fairy and she'll give you fairy dust SS>do I do in the whispering woods (I get blind).. drink milk to improve eyesight (look above) SS>Oh yea, got the sword cleaned up as well.. go back immediately to get "real" sword back, otherwise blacksmith will scam you with fake if the answers were too direct, let me know and I'll tone it down. ___ X OLX 2.1 TD X Speed Racer is the only way to go! --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Sea East PC Exchange (1:343/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE WONG Number: 10665 To: KENT TIMM Date: 12/30/93 9:05a Subj: 4SALE: Dream Girl game Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KT> Game For Sale: Dream Girl (PG version) CD-ROM I'll offer $20.00 plus $2.90 shipping for it, if you have no other offers. let me know here. ___ X OLX 2.1 TD X Speed Racer is the only way to go! --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Sea East PC Exchange (1:343/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES MARTIN Number: 10666 To: JOE RINEHART Date: 12/31/93 3:15p Subj: CREAM OF THE CROP II Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Joe i just got the disk CREAM OF THE CROP II you sent.. All i can say is WOW>...!!! Talk about a GREAT, AWSOME, OUTSTANDING... WHAT ELSE CAN I SAY ! I run Remote Access 2.01 and the Ra_CREAM convertion program is the BEST infact the ONLY one i've seen that WORKS. I won't need to use the the warrenty you promised.! IT's the BEST i've seen the file stuct. is GREAT (not guess on this disk) Just shove it in and RUN it... Thanks A VERY VERY satisfied customer, i'm looking forward to doing business with you. James Martin, Extensions BBS --- Gecho-Ra/PRO * Origin: (1:344/35) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF VAN SYCKLE Number: 10667 To: ALL Date: 12/31/93 11:12a Subj: Dracula unleashed Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Well, I'm hoping I didn't spend my money for nothing. I recently got Dracula Unleashed and got it running with a boot disk, but the sound is really funky. Some skipping and scratchy-sounding noise. Also at times it actually sounds like a record playing at fast speed. I'm running a 386-25, with 4 meg, a NEC single speed CD, and a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 sound board. I haven't had problems with any other Multimedia-type CD's. I'm a Dracula freak and am really hoping someone can offer some suggestions to get me up and running (hopefully short of buying a new sustem to play a $50 game!) Thanks in advance. Jeff --- DB 1.50/004225 * Origin: The Newtown Express BBS: 2400-16.8K 215-860-9724 5.1gigz (1:273/231) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM MILLER Number: 10668 To: TERRY GREENMAN Date: 12/31/93 1:21p Subj: Re: sony double speed cd- Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Greetings Terry ! In a message to Tom Miller <12/28/93> Terry Greenman wrote: TG| how many TOTAL drives do you have? And did you put the statement in you TG| config.sys. That might be your problem? I've got it working now Terry, I had a bad drive, it was replaced and is working fine. Thanks for the assistance. -=[Tom Miller]=- * WCE 1.5/2163 * Crawfish, Cajuns and beer...Heaven! --- WM v3.00/92-0228 * Origin: Miller's Crossing Slidell, LA. 14.4 (1:390/22.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS ROBINSON Number: 10669 To: AL BRATLIE Date: 12/31/93 7:45p Subj: Advice, please... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I looking at the same card and for the same answer as you. If you don't mind doing it, could you drop me a note if you find the answer? I'm more concerned with the sound card at present. I am also looking into this new wave (pardon the pun) of cards using wavetable synthesis. According to many articles (i.e. pg.38 Jan PCConnection) I'm hearing that these wavetable cards are the way to go yet are cheaper than the SB16 ASP SCSI-2. The cards talked heavily about are the Orchid Soundwave 32, Diamond Sonic Pro, and the Cardinal ????? (don't recall). Just thought I'd through more confusion your way, Al. After all, I don't want to face this alone...ha. Good luck and keep me informed. CR --- WM v3.10/92-0004 * Origin: The Computer Room-Pickerington, Oh (614)861-8377 (1:226/110) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAUL NALEY Number: 10670 To: ALL Date: 12/31/93 9:29p Subj: Return to Zork Upgrade Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have seen a few messages today that would indicate that there is a upgrade patch available for Return to Zork. Does anyone know if Activision has a operating BBS and if so the phone # for it. If Activision does not have a BBS then I would appreciate a FidoNet address that I may Freq the upgrade file from in the USA atleast at 14.4k baud. Thank you. --- WM v3.10/91-0058 * Origin: Little Rascals BBS - Pr. Frederick, Md. 301-855-9420 (1:109/538) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK NAY Number: 10671 To: JAMES ZMIJEWSKI Date: 01/01/94 11:37a Subj: Re: 7th quest Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No You can run into problems..This setting sets the bus speed of your i/o cards..for instance if you have a 33 mhz cpu with the /2 you would be running your bus at about 15 mhz..at /3 11mhz etc etc..some cards do not like being run at over 8mhz..you can run into problems..it is suggested that you run your bus at 8 mhz if you have older cards installed..anymore ?'s let me know.. --- * Origin: Ground Zero 813-849-4034 New Port Richey, FL NEC (1:3619/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROB BELANGER Number: 10672 To: ALL Date: 12/31/93 1:05p Subj: NEC 3XI/SB16SCSI-2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello out there, I am thinking of purchasing a Sound Blaster 16 ASP (SCSI-2) along with a NEC 3Xi to replace my current SBPRO/Sony 31a configuration. I was wondering if anyone out there has utilized this combination and would appreciate any feedback regarding this configuration. Also, if I were to purchase these two (2) items from two different vendors, would I need any additional items such as cables (audio/data) or would they be included with either the Cd-Rom or sound card? Thank you. --- T.A.G. 2.6f1 Standard * Origin: DownStairs Plantsville,Ct (203)621-1930 -<HST/DS>- (1:141/805) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SUMMERS Number: 10673 To: AL BRATLIE Date: 12/31/93 12:04p Subj: Re: Adult CD's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No While throwing darts at a picture of our "Commander In Chief", I heard Al Bratlie tell James Parker this: AB> most of them (80%+) were low resolution/quality and had BBS ads AB> As for the animations, I think there are only about 20 AB> animations out there You guys need to check out the FAO CD series. It's BBS ad-less and I'd say more than half of the GIFs are high resolution. As for the animation, they include a wide variety of "imported" .DLs which I've never seen before. You can use the MEGASEARCH program which is included on the CD which allows you to enter a keyword (a keyword which closely matches your fetish:) and it will search the entire disk, bringing up every file. Then you can even view them from MEGARSEARCH. The program allows you to path to your favorite GIF viewer and you can use it from within MEGASEARCH to view each file. It has a ton of adult games (both BBS and non-BBS) which are pretty good as well. It cost about $39.00, but they'll also throw in an extra adult CD called T&A for another $12.00, so you end up getting about a gigabyte worth of adult pics, games, and animation for around $60.00. If you run a board, they even have a door which is simple as all hell to set up. Here's the address and phone number: Profit Press 2956 N. Campbell Avenue Tucson, AZ 85719 (602)577-9696 They'll send it to you via express mail, and it took two days to get to my house. Check it out, you won't be disappointed. Dave Summers, Sysop Floating Rib BBS --- * Origin: The Floating Rib BBS -- 316-775-6611 (1:291/31) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WAYNE HENDERSON Number: 10674 To: JOE RINEHART Date: 01/01/94 8:58a Subj: Hi Joe Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Please send your catalog to: Wayne.Henderson@Deepcove.com or if you must by mail to: Wayne Henderson #1810 10620 150 Strasse Surrey British Columbia V3R 7K3 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Basic'ly Computers: Mooo-ing Right Along. (1:153/9) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON DADSWELL Number: 10675 To: SCOTT TEED Date: 12/30/93 5:45p Subj: Journeyman Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ST> Has anybody got a copy of The Journeyman running in OS/2 out ST> there. It won't work under os/2 or nt. It uses a special debug kernal and requires dos/win. If you do run it under dos I recommend a big cd-rom cache - 4 megs helps a ton. ___ X KWQ/2 1.2b X If at first you don't succeed, put out another version (KWQ 1.2). --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Live Via Satellite - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY PERRY Number: 10676 To: NORM HILL Date: 01/01/94 7:13a Subj: Cr-562 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Norm Hill wrote in a message to Lawrence Mintz: NH> Already tried IBM and Creative Labs, it seems that no one NH> can answer my question. I download the driver for OS/2 2.1 Make sure you have the below in your config.sys (and the associated files are in existence): BASEDEV=OS2CDROM.DMD BASEDEV=SBCD2.ADD /P:220 /N:1 DEVICE=D:\OS2\MDOS\VCDROM.SYS --- timEd/2-B10 * Origin: Code 3 BBS *Lewisville,TX* (214)436-8753/221-7139 (1:124/6106) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 10677 To: DAVE ELLISON Date: 01/01/94 12:12p Subj: Re: VIRUS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DE> Wrong. Mcafee's scanner v108 _was on_ the NO #10 disk and it found DE> Crusades (Butterfly) and Memory Lapse easily. Butterfly's been around DE> for months and almost any scanner in existence can DE> find it. Neither one DE> is very dangerous though, I don't really see what all of the hype is DE> about. Funny thing also, is SCAN is not the best choice in scanning for viruses, as it only scans for viruses already in existance. One needs something like Norton Antivirus that does this and also scans for CRC changes, etc. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: MAXspeed/ISDN BBS * 3775 cps..and accelerating!! (1:362/119) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 10678 To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 01/01/94 12:20p Subj: 6 DISK CHANGERS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BF> The DRM-600 was the original. There have been actually 5. While the 600 was the original, it was a 110v unit. There was also the 610 which was the 220v unit. These both were replaced by the 600A. BF> drive on the market (the NEC quad-spin drives BF> should EQUAL it once they are BF> released). Pioneer will be releasing another model of quadra spin drive this spring and also is releasing an 18 disc changer. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: MAXspeed/ISDN BBS * 3775 cps..and accelerating!! (1:362/119) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 10679 To: MIKE MORRELL Date: 01/01/94 12:26p Subj: CDROM Multichanger Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MM> I currently run a "CDROM" door here, and would like MM> to install a multi cdrom MM> system. My door program supports such a unit, but I MM> cannot seem to locate one. MM> I think Panasonic was the model mentioned and it MM> holds 6 cd's. Can anyone help? That's the Pioneer units that your thinking of. We sell all the models of the Pionner. If you like, give me a call after 5 EST at 615-339-0235 and would be glad to discuss them with you. We have real good prices on them. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: MAXspeed/ISDN BBS * 3775 cps..and accelerating!! (1:362/119) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 10680 To: DAVID SILVER Date: 01/01/94 12:29p Subj: Re: Night Owl 10 Virus!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Dave Reed to Benjamin Ortiz <=- DR> What's your involvement with Richard, anyway? Are you lovers? DS> Thanks for helping me to decide who NOT to buy from - namely, you... That's an idle threat to Dave since he is not selling CDs anymore <g>. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: MAXspeed/ISDN BBS * 3775 cps..and accelerating!! (1:362/119) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 10681 To: TONY SAUNDERS Date: 01/01/94 12:33p Subj: Return to Zork Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TS> ROMS. I paid $64.95 for my copy of RTZ and it came TS> in a standard CD case TS> with a 30 page book,whereas if you buy the fully boxed version (which TS> probably comes with a glow-in-the-dark full-sized TS> map of The Underground It pays to shop around sometimes <g>. We sell the fully boxed version for $44.95 and will have the OEM version for less than that shortly. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: MAXspeed/ISDN BBS * 3775 cps..and accelerating!! (1:362/119) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: VINCE SORENSEN Number: 10682 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/31/93 12:34p Subj: GOOD SHAREWARE CDS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> HC> This one allows you to stick it's main exe on the Hd and -> HC> the Database if you so desire, 4 megs or so installed. -> Like I said... on the cd. It does run off the CD... just slower. Are the listings on Cream of the Crop II single line? What sort of size are they? Vince --- The Mail Box [NR] * Origin: SUPERBOARD/CD-ROM WHOLESALERS (306)789-8682 (1:140/121) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SCOTT LOUDON Number: 10683 To: MIKE GERVASI Date: 01/01/94 7:52a Subj: Re: What to buy.. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Do you still have mother goose? let me know I would like it --- GOMail v1.1 [DEMO] 01-22-94 * Origin: ReeseCom BBS - Home of Reese's Computer Service 1:215/77 (1:215/77) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE BARONE Number: 10684 To: JOE RINEHART Date: 12/31/93 6:28p Subj: !free Cd catalog! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to All, Joe Rinehart said: > *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories > CATALOG!************* > For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW > catalog... > If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information > to us. > We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request. > CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles > available) > Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org > FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet > 18:711/176 > Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc. Voice: (216) 296-9831 - > 24 hours > P.O. Box 27 Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244 > Kent, Ohio 44240-0001 >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS > WELCOME<<< > --- MsgToss 2.0c > * Origin: Home of config.sys, Inc.-Discount CD's-Kent, Oh > (1:157/479) Please send me your latest catalog, i am interested in purchasing a double or triple speed drive, can u recommend any one in particular? thnaks George Barone 94 Ridgeview Place Cheshire CT 06410 --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Electronic Republic BBS Meriden, CT USA (N1PXN) (1:141/451) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE BARONE Number: 10685 To: BRYAN ANSLOW Date: 12/31/93 6:39p Subj: Windows and PC's Cr*p Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Bryan, I to am a mainframe programmer & have experienced the same type of problems. When my staff develop or use a PC & we try to enforce things such as standards, source library controls or normal audit procedures they all balk at them. My usual response is 'when PCs grow up to be like mainframes you will have to do things this way'. For some reason though, they still haven't grown up yet. Ah, the frustrations of a mainframe programmer...... --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Electronic Republic BBS Meriden, CT USA (N1PXN) (1:141/451) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE BARONE Number: 10686 To: ALL Date: 12/31/93 6:48p Subj: Triple Speed Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Could anyone recommend a good triple speed drive, I am looking for somehting that will not go out of date within 2 years like every other piece of hardware that I buy. Thanks --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Electronic Republic BBS Meriden, CT USA (N1PXN) (1:141/451) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 10687 To: JOHN GASKILL Date: 12/31/93 8:37p Subj: 7Th Guest & SVGA question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JG> Any particular reason? Care to substantiate that JG> warning? JG> I own and run both, a Trident w/512k on the BBS and JG> an Oak JG> on another machine, both work flawlessly under Dos, JG> Windows Because, in most cases pertaining to Video Cards, many of require that YOU have 512KBytes To Support the 640x480 resolution At 256 Simultaneous colors.. Furthermore, if you require more intense, or an increased amount of colors at that resolution, 1 MB is the next step, Briningin you (in most cards) to 640x480 /w 32,768 Simultaneos colors, or in newer cards, 65,536 colors at that rez. Understand?? or were you being sarcastic?? --- GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: Phone Henge [203-826-1153 HST16/V32b] New Britain,CT (1:142/212) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 10688 To: TONY WILLIAMS Date: 12/31/93 8:49p Subj: Freeing up space Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to All, Tony Williams said: TW> Does anyone know of anyway that I can access more upper TW> memory to load some other files so that I have more room in TW> conventional? My cd-rom that I just installed is running its TW> driver in upper memory putting other drivers and other files TW> running in conventional. This causes me to have limited TW> capacity for running programs requiring 512k or more of TW> convetional memory. Any ideas? TW> Thanx TW> Tony Tony, if you have a 386 or better, you can Get an Expanded memory manager Such as QEMM386, or if you have DOS 6 You can just type memmaker, and you're all set!! If you have a 286, then Your Beat!! But there is hope, My friend Runs a 286 amd He loads his drivers into Himem, using DR DOS 5 ( i beleieve) --- GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: Phone Henge [203-826-1153 HST16/V32b] New Britain,CT (1:142/212) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 10689 To: GEORGE BARONE Date: 01/01/94 3:05a Subj: Triple Speed Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to All, George Barone said: GB> Could anyone recommend a good triple speed drive, I am GB> looking for somehting that will not go out of date within 2 GB> years like every other piece of hardware that I buy. Thanks Go fer the NEC 3xe... 450Kbps, or i believe that there is a 600Kbps CD-ROM drive that costs around $800 --- GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: Phone Henge [203-826-1153 HST16/V32b] New Britain,CT (1:142/212) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 10690 To: MARK MAY Date: 12/31/93 1:11a Subj: Top 5? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MM>Just out of curiosity, what would you say the top 5 in terms of quality MM>currently are? Also, do you carry Cream of the Crop 1, I heard it had a lot MM>of the "classic" older files on it. Right Now? I would say these would be my top 5: Pier 3, CD Powerbox 2, Cream of the Crop 2, Software Vault Gold, and Monster Media '93. Don't handle Cream of the Crop 1 at this time, but I've heard it's a very nice disc. Later, .\\ike * SLMR 2.1a * I'm leaving my body to science fiction... --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 10691 To: ALL Date: 12/31/93 1:11a Subj: TOP 5 NEW CD-ROMS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No | Starvector Sales Bulletin #2: TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES | CD POWERBOX 2 * The newest of the new! Current shareware hits. BBS.....$29 DIGITAL DREAMS 2 * Newest all-original "R" CD. No dupes to 1! BBS......$29 REBEL ASSAULT * New and hot from Lucasarts. Great interactive game.....$49 HAM RADIO/SCANNER COMPANION * Lots of essential utilities for Hams.....$23 VIRTUAL REALITY STARTER KIT * The "next dimension" for your PC.........$49 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs. 509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) **** VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SLMR 2.1a * Dammit Jim! I'm a doctor, not a tagline! --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 10692 To: ALL Date: 12/31/93 1:11a Subj: NEWEST SHAREWARE CD! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No | Title: CD POWERBOX 2 Price: $29 | 1. CD Powerbox 2 + CD Powerbox 1.01 (no dupes!)........................$35 2. CD Powerbox 2 + CD Winbox 1.01......................................$45 3. CD Powerbox 2 + OS/2Box.............................................$45 SUPER SPECIAL: ALL FOUR DISCS (Powerbox 1 & 2, OS/2Box, and Winbox)....$55 600+mb of only 1993 files! Features Universal Graphic User Interface! STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs. 509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!) * SLMR 2.1a * Odo, is there any more jello in the fridge? Odo? Odo?? --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NICK FUNK Number: 10693 To: TONY COVIELLO Date: 12/31/93 5:00a Subj: animals cd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Dec 30 22:34>, Tony Coviello of 1:324/116 writes: TC> I AM TRYING TO GET 'THE ANIMALS <SAN DIEGO ZOO>' TO RUN, BUT I AM TC> GETTING "256 COLOR MODE REQUIRED" MESSAGE. I HAVE A VGA MONITOR, TC> WHY WON'T IT RUN? I got that message also. I had to upgrade QEMM and my video drivers (Genoa 8500vl local bus video card). After that no problems --- msgedsq 2.1 * Origin: LaPlace, LA Point (1:396/61.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOBBY POSEY Number: 10694 To: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE Date: 12/30/93 7:01p Subj: Looking for Movie Database CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hallo Leute ! > Are their any other CD's besides The Microsoft Cinemania 1994 > which can be recommended regarding Movies ? > Are there other CD's ? > thanx in advance... > Bye > Chris Chris their are about 4 that I know of but they are all for Windows. I looked at these disks from Best Buy and even thought about loading Windows but thought again and said no maybe someone will feel sorry for us die hard Dos people.. Bobby --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: The Mule Barn BBS (I'm Stubbern allright) 756-7565 (1:388/20) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOBBY POSEY Number: 10695 To: THOMAS GUILFOYLE Date: 12/30/93 7:08p Subj: CD ROM DISK CATALOG Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hi there Korene, > Thanks for the response as I am anxious in getting as many > sources I can for getting catalogs for CD's as I just got mine for use > with my board and need to get a good reliable source to get the most > current cd's for the board. Thanks for the help. Thomas I have a catalog for Freq here from one of the most reliable and helpfull dealers arround. You can Freq the file with magic name of CCI or request the file CCI.ZIP, CCI.ARJ eather way up to 16.8 23 hours daily. The name of the catalog is Consumer Club International. This catalog is regularly updated usually every week or two.. The FidoNet address is 1:388/20... Bobby --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: The Mule Barn BBS (I'm Stubbern allright) 756-7565 (1:388/20) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOBBY POSEY Number: 10696 To: DAVE CLARK Date: 12/30/93 7:16p Subj: cd's on Lantasti Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hay Dave I am also running Lantasti and have 10 cd's online at this time. I am running both mochines as setvers and have got a Pioneer 600a on one server along with 2 NEC drives. On the other Mochine I have 2 sony drives but the real question is how do you make the drives run as one single drive letter?? I would like to make the Pioneer run as one letter instead of 6 because I am running out of letters as well.. Let me know something as soon as possible and thanks very much for your time.. You can netmail me at 1:388/20 ... Bobby --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: The Mule Barn BBS (I'm Stubbern allright) 756-7565 (1:388/20) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOBBY POSEY Number: 10697 To: JERRY THOMSON Date: 12/30/93 7:24p Subj: 6 DISK CHANGERS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I just found a place that will sell me the DMR-600A for $741 which > includes everthing including the card, cables and case. Ready to hook > right up. Does that sound like an ok price? If you would let me know where this place is it would be greatly appreciated. All I need is just the 600a I allready have the cables and card. I am thinking about chaining 2 more of these drives with the one I have now.. Bobby --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: The Mule Barn BBS (I'm Stubbern allright) 756-7565 (1:388/20) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOBBY POSEY Number: 10698 To: SCOTT REDMAN Date: 12/30/93 7:44p Subj: 6 DISK CHANGERS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Sounds like a great price Jerry. About the cheapest I have seen for a > 600a is $729, and that's just the bare drive. If you're ready to take > the plunge, I'd dive in if I were you! <G>...BTW, where is this Yea Jerry share the info with the rest of the world!!! Bobby --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: The Mule Barn BBS (I'm Stubbern allright) 756-7565 (1:388/20) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT BENNETT Number: 10699 To: JOE RINEHEART Date: 12/31/93 4:50p Subj: CD-Catlog Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I would like a copy of your Catlog if possible? Robert Bennett 8134C James Court Tinker AFB Ok 73145 ... "The more RAM you have, the better", M. Chambers --- GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: Trinity ]I[ BBS -=[ Oklahoma City ]=- (405)691-2377 (1:147/2777) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHAD REID Number: 10700 To: DEREK STUTSMAN Date: 12/31/93 10:27a Subj: UFO CD Rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DS>I just picked up the "UFO" CD-Rom, and I have to say I am VERY VERY DS>disappointed with it! DS>It supposedly has 1200 "sightings" on disc, with video pictures, DS>animations, etc. However, the "search" interface is very clunky, and many DS>sightings have a 3-4 line description with no picture or video available. DS>The ones that do have a video clip mainly consist of a tiny blip flying DS>around at a very choppy rate (even on my double spin drive.) I want to DS>warn anyone who buys this to be _sure_ the store has a good return policy! Let me guess Derek, your store doesn't have a return policey? I was going to try it out, I guess I'll think twice this time. Chad * OLX 2.2 * I don't care who you are, get those reindeer off my roof! --- QM v1.31 * Origin: The Idiot Box RBBS-PC =+> 1-800-295-2943 (1:207/703.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN ECKBLAD Number: 10701 To: JOHN ULLMER Date: 12/30/93 10:21p Subj: Re: OMNI CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thank it worked Brian --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: The File Bank, Inc. (303) 534-4646 - Files, Files, Files (1:104/899) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN ECKBLAD Number: 10702 To: DONNIE RAYNOR Date: 12/30/93 10:21p Subj: Re: OMNI CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thank it worked Brian --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: The File Bank, Inc. (303) 534-4646 - Files, Files, Files (1:104/899) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN ECKBLAD Number: 10703 To: MARTIN ALBERT Date: 12/30/93 10:19p Subj: Re: OMNI CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thank it worked Brian --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: The File Bank, Inc. (303) 534-4646 - Files, Files, Files (1:104/899) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN ECKBLAD Number: 10704 To: ANDREW BARNHARDT Date: 12/30/93 10:21p Subj: Re: OMNI CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thank it worked --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: The File Bank, Inc. (303) 534-4646 - Files, Files, Files (1:104/899) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN ECKBLAD Number: 10705 To: NORM HILL Date: 12/30/93 10:21p Subj: Re: OMNI CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thank it worked Brian --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: The File Bank, Inc. (303) 534-4646 - Files, Files, Files (1:104/899) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEITH RITCHIE Number: 10706 To: JACK VOORHIES Date: 12/31/93 2:10p Subj: Re: cd rom's data capacit Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thanks Jack. I am still deciding on whether to keep it. What kind of sound quality do you get from the soundboard, or did you purchase the drive separately. Thanks and Happy New Year, Keith --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: Rosedale Data Line Rosedale, MD *USA* H16 410.866.4554 (1:2617/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEITH RITCHIE Number: 10707 To: STEVE CHAPMAN Date: 12/31/93 2:15p Subj: Ker--bussshhh Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The layer of white stuff is probably dissolved plastic from the CD. Nail polish remover contains acetone which dissolves plastic. The CD is unfortunately probably history. Contact the manufacturer since some have a replacement policy. Keith --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: Rosedale Data Line Rosedale, MD *USA* H16 410.866.4554 (1:2617/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL GUIDRY Number: 10708 To: JAMES SUMMERS Date: 12/31/93 3:59p Subj: Loom Cd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JS> Do any of you out here play the game Loom on Cd? I was very impressed wit JS>this game and like it very much. I have a few questions though, I have bbec JS>stuck and do not know what to do. If you are experienced at this game pleas JS>write me. I am stuck in the iron makers guild watching the man hammer away JS>the sword. I have listened to the coversation, I have no idea what to do. JS>Could it be something with the stick baskket up stairs? JS>James Summers You need to cast the dull spell [opposite of sharpen that you picked up from the scythe] to prevent the sword from being made. Don't remember what happens next. You should look for a program called the Universal Help System [UHS] that runs under windows. It's like a shell and you can get files that provide help for various games. I know they exist for loom and Sherlock Holmes. I saw it on GEnie. ... User Friendly: Never having to say - "I read the manual." --- WIN-MAIL "The Pointe System" for MS Windows - Beta/0.09A * Origin: Castle Guidrax -- New Orleans, Louisiana (1:396/1.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL GUIDRY Number: 10709 To: ERIC WARDS Date: 12/31/93 4:03p Subj: Loom Cd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 30 Dec 93, Eric Wards stated to James Summers: EW> EW>Hi, James.... EW> I have played the game a while, but you are farther than I EW> am at the part where the lamb is in the basket, sick, and t EW> woman there says I have to heal it? Do you know about this EW> Does any one know of this part and how to get around this? I don't remember the answer, but see the my answer to James about the UHS. ... User Friendly: Never having to say - "I read the manual." --- WIN-MAIL "The Pointe System" for MS Windows - Beta/0.09A * Origin: Castle Guidrax -- New Orleans, Louisiana (1:396/1.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE WONG Number: 10710 To: ALL Date: 12/28/93 6:44p Subj: NEW PRICES FOR CD DISKS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BRAND NEW CD-ROM FOR SALE MIXED UP MOTHER GOOSE $19.50 LOOM $15.75 ARTHUR'S TEACHER TROUBLE $21.00 THE ADVENTURE OF WILLY BEAMISH $15.40 CARMEN SAN DIEGO DELUXE $22.50 MAYO FAMILY CLINIC $21.00 ANIMALS, THE SAN DIEGO ZOO $19.50 CALL ME AT (206)644-5236 X2615 WORK (206)722-8154 HOME NIGHTS OR REPLY HERE OR MAIL M.O./CASHIER CHECK TO: 2504 S. FERDINAND SEATTLE, WA 98108 ADD $2.90 SHIPPING UP TO 5 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Sea East PC Exchange (1:343/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WILL HOWARD Number: 10711 To: JOE RINEHART Date: 12/31/93 7:34a Subj: !free Cd catalog! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!************* I have just purchased a CDROM drive. Please send me all available catalogs for CD's. D. Johnson 7627 Lynn Anne San Antonio, Tx 78240 --- PPoint 1.64 * Origin: Will's Point (1:387/404.25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WILL HOWARD Number: 10712 To: GEORGE VAISEY Date: 12/31/93 7:40a Subj: Battle Chess For Sale Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (25 Dec 93) George Vaisey wrote to All... GV> * Forwarded from "Cd-Rom For Sale Conference" I have just purchased a CDROM drive. Please send me all available catalogs for CD's. D. Johnson 7627 Lynn Anne San Antonio, Tx 78240 --- PPoint 1.64 * Origin: Will's Point (1:387/404.25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WILL HOWARD Number: 10713 To: BOB DUNN Date: 12/31/93 7:41a Subj: For The largest selection Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (23 Dec 93) Bob Dunn wrote to *********** Free Huge Cd-... BD> *F> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to u BD> *F> We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request. BD> *F> CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles avail I have just purchased a CDROM drive. Please send me all available catalogs for CD's. D. Johnson 7627 Lynn Anne San Antonio, Tx 78240 --- PPoint 1.64 * Origin: Will's Point (1:387/404.25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 10714 To: RICK SAMUELS Date: 12/31/93 11:24a Subj: Re: LANtastic & CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RS> 04 Dec 93, Hoang Pham writes to All: HP> Does anyone know how to make LANtastic 5.0 see a RS> CD-ROM drive over the HP> network? I've tried running MSCDEX with the /s RS> param, but that does not HP> work for LANtastic. Am running DOS 6.2. Thanks for any info. RS> The manual clearly explains how to do it. You have to RS> load MSCDEX after redir, but before server. You then have RS> to define it as a network resource with NET_MGR and define RS> it as a CD-Rom drive. That's it. This will indeed work, but from personal experience, I know that it is slow and will not work with many programs, such as Grolier's and Microsoft Bookshelf, unless you purchase the network versions of those softwares (MUCHO diniero!). However, there is a shareware solution on the Lantastic BBS itself that works much better, called CD-SHARE.EXE. I find this an excellent DOS based LAN solution. Of course, if you were using OS/2... <smile> Les --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: GUI? Ptui!!! --- Last Chance Pt 4 (1:387/800.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ULLMER Number: 10715 To: JERRY THOMSON Date: 12/31/93 12:28p Subj: Re: 8088 CD-ROM I/0 CARD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Jerry Thomson to All <=- JT> My question is: Can one put a CD-ROM and card in an XT JT> computer? Does anyone make an I/O card that will work and JT> if the XT is only 10mhz, would it be good for just storage JT> space? I just ordered a 6 disk changer for my 386 33MHZ, JT> but just wondered if I could put it in the XT instead.. I had a NEC 77 running from an XT back in ''89-'91 when I had a BBS. It ran fine, and users thought it was great to be able to d/l from a CD-ROM. BUT, I don't know what the configuration of the disk changer card is. You may need to check the specs when your diskchanger gets to you. ... SENILE.COM found . . . Out Of Memory . . . ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Thunderbird (1:387/603) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ULLMER Number: 10716 To: BERNARD ZEPHRO Date: 12/31/93 1:09p Subj: Re: New Nec Cd Rom Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Bernard Zephro to John Ullmer <=- BZ> Do you know if this NEC 3x drive will work using the new Soundblaster BZ> 16 SCSI-2 as the controller as opposed to using a separate SCSI BZ> controller. Creative Labs claimed it would work with all SCSI cd-roms. BZ> But that was before NEC 3x. I want to buy this combo if I know it will BZ> work well. Sorry on that question. I don't know. I DO know that I have to get a 16bit sound card so that all the sound from the game disks comes through the speakers. I was thinking of getting a SB Pro 16. That'll be sometime next week. My advice would be to buy the sound card, plug in the drive, and see if it flies. If it doesn't, then you know you need NEC's SCSI card. ... Mary had a little RAM -- only about a MEG or so. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Thunderbird (1:387/603) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ULLMER Number: 10717 To: CASE ZWART Date: 12/31/93 1:16p Subj: Re: New Nec Cd Rom Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Case Zwart to John Ullmer <=- CZ> John, lucky you! My grandchildren gave me a Pro Audio Studio 16 for CZ> Xmas which has "SCSI-Industry Standard CD-ROM interface". Does this CZ> mean that if I buy the NEC 3x internal that I will not require any CZ> extra cables or adapters? Case. As I told the previous message-er, I'd just plug in the Driver/Reader and see if it flies. If the CD-ROM Reader won't work, then you know you'll have to buy the card from NEC. I don't know if NEC follows the "industry standard" or if they have some proprietary stuff on their board. The tech at NEC (no pun intended) told me I'd have to upgrade to SB Pro 16 to get all the sound from game CD's to come through my speakers. So, at least the SB card and NEC's card are compatible, IF both are required. You might try NEC at 1-800-388-8888 (voice), 1-800-366-0476 (fax). I sure wouldn't trust the salesperson in the showroom to know the answer. ... I've got the answer; I just forgot the question. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Thunderbird (1:387/603) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ULLMER Number: 10718 To: JOHN SWANLAND Date: 12/31/93 1:23p Subj: Re: Panasonic Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting John Swanland to All <=- JS> I've just installed a Panasonic CR-562 CD ROM drive and a WDH-7001C JS> AT bus card using the default setup. However, when I rebooted, the JS> single CD drive was assigned 4 different drive letters (all refer JS> to the same drive) I can't find any settings to change this. JS> Any ideas?? Check your documentation for dip switch settings. There's usually a dip switch on the CD drive/reader that "tells" the computer whether there is one or more than one drive attached to the computer (daisy chained). It sounds as if you driver is set for multi drives, thus the extra drive letter assignments. Your docs should tell you what switch sets single or multi drives. ... Frustrated husband: "Honey, did you flick my dip?" ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Thunderbird (1:387/603) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ULLMER Number: 10719 To: SCOTT STADLER Date: 12/31/93 1:55p Subj: Re: seventh guest Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Scott Stadler to All <=- SS> How do you solve the cans in the cupboard puzzle? Thanks Scott I ain't gonna give you the answer, cuz, I don't have it yet myself. Hints: You need to make a sentence out of the letters on the front of each can. Obviously, you need words first. Notice there is only one vowel ("i") listed on the cans. However, "y" is variant of "i", which is why we have so many words that have no "regular" vowels, but do have "y" in them (y being a variant of i). What I'm doing is making a list of possible words from the letters available (tryst, pry, spy, try, etc.). Then I try to get a sentence from the available words. Good luck, Scott. ... Happiness is a solved puzzle. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Thunderbird (1:387/603) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ULLMER Number: 10720 To: BYRON KROHN Date: 12/31/93 2:00p Subj: Re: Sound Card Tech. Inf Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Byron Krohn to All <=- BK> I need some technical dope regarding 8 bit vs 16 bit sound cards. As BK> I understand it ALL sound cards convert digital sound with a 16 bit BK> D to A converter. Also 16 bit cards convert analog sound to digital BK> using a 16 bit A to D network. (ie 65,536 levels). But an 8 bit card BK> converts using only 2^8 bits or 256 levels. It seems to me that unless BK> a user is doing professional level AtoD conversion, (ie digitally BK> recording analog sound, NOT reproducing it only) that an 8 bit unit BK> would perform as well as a 16. When I ask others they all tell me that BK> 16 bit boards "sound much better". I don't think this qualifies as a technical answer, but some recent CD games (and more to come in the future) will not play their music over the speakers if the card is 8 bit. You have to listen to the music through earphones plugged into the front of the CD reader/player. Not exactly a convenient arrangement. For that reason alone, I'd go to a 16 bit. ... Why isn't everything 32 bit? ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Thunderbird (1:387/603) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ULLMER Number: 10721 To: BERNARD ZEPHRO Date: 12/31/93 2:10p Subj: Re: New Nec Cd Rom Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BZ> Do you know if this NEC 3x drive will work using the new Soundblaster BZ> 16 SCSI-2 as the controller as opposed to using a separate SCSI BZ> controller. Creative Labs claimed it would work with all SCSI cd-roms. BZ> But that was before NEC 3x. I want to buy this combo if I know it will BZ> work well. Sorry, forgot to mention NEC's tech support numbers. Maybe they can give you an answer: 1-800-388-8888 (voice) 1-800-366-0476 (fax) ... Cellular phones belong in the cellar. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Thunderbird (1:387/603) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JORGE GUTIERREZ Number: 10722 To: JOE RINEHART Date: 12/31/93 7:53a Subj: !free Cd catalog! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I would like to have a Cd Catalog also if you can send me one. My name and address is: George Gutierrez 11215 N.W. 6 Street Miami, Florida 33172-3558 Thak you very much and hope to get one. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Software Cuisine - Miami, FL, USA - v32bis/v42bis (1:135/57) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AL BRATLIE Number: 10723 To: JAMES PARKER Date: 12/31/93 3:05p Subj: Re: Adult CD's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JP> I'm sure it does have a long way to go. It's like the ads that JP> advertise 15 XXX videos only $10!! If it sounds to good to be true, it JP> usually is, and if youget anything at all, the quality is usually JP> terrible, and it's the same scene over and over.. Not that I"VE ever I think it was on CNN, or maybe a local channel trying to get their ratings up again, but I saw something about Huster and Penthouse, and others getting into the Adult CD market. Interactive 'adult' stories, movies, and the like. When that stuff hits the market place, I might take a look again, but the junk out there now isn't worth the time it takes to download. Later, Al ... This tagline is made just for James Parker ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- WM v3.10/91-0224 * Origin: City Lights <612-633-1366> <6 LINES> <16.8 D/S> (1:282/108) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AL BRATLIE Number: 10724 To: ALL Date: 12/31/93 3:16p Subj: New Sound Cards ? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I read something on Usenet about new sound cards that Creative Labs has in the works. One or more are rumored to be comming out later this year. I was wondering if anyone here knows anything about them. I plan on getting something new in the next year, and the SB16-ASP-SCSI2 was on the top of my list..but if something better is just around the corner I would rather wait. By the way, I am WELL aware that something better is ALWAYS around the corner in the world of computer hardware, and no matter how long I wait something better will still be just around the corner. I am just sick of getting burned everytime I buy a new piece of hardware ;0 Thanks, Al ... Mary had a little RAM -- only about a MEG or so. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- WM v3.10/91-0224 * Origin: City Lights <612-633-1366> <6 LINES> <16.8 D/S> (1:282/108) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEREMY RANDALL Number: 10725 To: JOE RINEHART Date: 12/31/93 8:54p Subj: !free Cd catalog! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!************* JR> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog... JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us. JR> We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request. Please send info to: Jeremy Randall, PO Box 1897, La Mesa, CA, 91944 (you can also f'attach the list? If so, please send to 1:202/125 - Thanks!) Jeremy The Cyber Chasm BBS 619-464-0776 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Cyber Chasm * 619-464-0776 v.32bis (1:202/125) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAUL WEST Number: 10726 To: ALL Date: 12/29/93 9:44p Subj: Happy 1994 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To all the great people in this forum I would like to wish you all a happy and very prosperous 1994. And, <devilish grin> if you vote for a Libertarian in 1996, I will guarantee you a very prosperous 1997. ;) Paul ... CLINTON: "I said 'No gnu taxes!' Do you see any gnus being taxed?" --- * Origin: "Analog Man" San Diego, Ca (619)497-0113 (1:202/1601) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE BROWN Number: 10727 To: BOB MILLER Date: 12/31/93 1:12p Subj: SB-16 and DOS 6.2 ? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >>> BOB MILLER wrote to ALL on 12-28-93 12:41 <<< BM>on a 486-33. I can run the installation on my machine with both my disk BM>and his diskettes, but I can't run the installation on his machine at al BM>keeps failing to recognise that diskette 2 has been inserted and keeps o BM>rquesting that disk 2 be loaded. I got rid of any mention of SMARTDRV i I could be the floppy drive isn't seating the disk properly. Try copying disk 2 to another floppy and then installing. I had a problem with my disk drive like that before until I bought a new one. * WaveRdr 1.01 # 101 * --- WM v2.05/91-0207 * Origin: The Byte Exchange, HST DS/16.8 504-735-0136 (1:390/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT WISE Number: 10728 To: ALL Date: 12/31/93 11:38a Subj: Toshiba CD-ROMS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I am looking for infomation on the Toshiba Model XM-3100B. If anyone has ever come across one of these, please let me know in this Echo or by NetMail. As far as i can tell these drives were made for IBM by Toshiba in May 1990. Thanks, Robert * SPITFIRE v3.4 (909) 794-4426 FAX/DATA --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: Valley of the Falls, Forest Falls, Ca. (1:207/206) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PETER VAN ELK Number: 10729 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 12/31/93 1:49a Subj: Night Owl 10 Virus Re Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No > Night Owl's products. Almost every single shareware CD > they've released has contained either viruses (yes, not only NO10), Do you have any information about virus infected files on NO-9? Names and such? --- Boe. (c) * Origin: The Twilight Zones; 5 Gigabyte! +31-70-3175273/3271262 (2:281/500) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HENRY PAUL Number: 10730 To: RICK NAY Date: 12/31/93 8:48a Subj: Re: DSP 16,Soundwave 32 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RN>Nope not kidding..It is available..But unfortunately only for the Cardinal a RN>Orchid boards..I have the Cardinal DSP16..If you read the original message y RN>can give Xing Technology a call and order it..It should be available soon at RN>CompUSA and other Computer stores and mailorder.. Ah, so it only works on those sound cards huh? Hmmmmm. Not too bad I guess. Thanks for the info! Henry * OLX 2.1 TD * Lennon of Borg. Imagine there's no assimilation.... --- GOMail v1.1 [92-0231] * Origin: Origin Line Not Defined In GOEDIT (1:152/103) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREGG KERNES Number: 10731 To: BOB MILLER Date: 01/01/94 10:13a Subj: Re: SB-16 and DOS 6.2 ? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No You may want to try booting up with no TSR's or ANYTHING loaded. To do this - when booting press the F5 key when the macahine says it it loading MS-DOS and then hold down the shift key. This will give you a totaly "clean" boot. I have been able to complete some instilations this way that would give me problems like you stated. The only problem with doing this is that if the install program needs to read what drivers you normaly have installed it can not do so as those drivers are not installed with this type of boot. Some install programs will allow you to tell it you have a mouse or whatever even if it doesn't find the driver for one. GOOD LUCK! --- Opus-CBCS 1.73a * Origin: Dr Rom II BBS (1:152/29.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB BREED Number: 10732 To: SAM FIGUEROA Date: 01/01/94 10:41a Subj: MOVIE CD REQUEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BB> Yeah, but that's based on Leonard Maltin's movie guide. The BB>printed version fails both movie tests -- and really is BB>incomplete on Sakall. (Gotta have something little more complete BB>-- although MS Cinemania is a pretty good product. SF> that it has clips of the movies and what not! Do you have any SF> recommendation on which Encyclopedia to buy? I'm in the market and SF> cannot decide whether to get Encarta, Groliers, or Comptons??? I got Encarta for Xmas. Very impressive demo of what Multi- media should be. MicroSoft finally did something right! It appears to be fairly decent in depth. As a test I had it look up the Rosetta Stone and Queen Nefertiti. (I'm a great one for testing these programs for depth -- these are two items about Egypt that should be mentioned.) Encarta passed both .. quite a bit of detail on the Rosetta stone, even a still picture. Nefertiti was covered, also with a picture of her and her King. (Not the picture you usually see of her tho..) The sound and motion clips are above average. The clip of Souza band playing the "Stars and Stripes" is great. I would say that it would cover a great many things for a 'quick look.' I belive that the other two Encyclopedia's cover things in more depth, but perhaps don't have the 'flash' of this program. Now if we could just get 'flash' AND depth -- wouldn't that be great. (We should live so long ;-)) If you have any 'test' subjects you would like me check-out, let me know and I'll give it a whirl and tell you what happens. The box says it's for ages 9 and up ... kinda leads me to believe that it is slanted towards school projects. The text portions are also slanted that way. Bottom line -- I like it! Probably some out there with more depth, but this IS a polished product that, if nothing else, really shows what the future of Multi-media can be. ... Didja ever wonder: why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets anyway?! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- ProBoard v1.31 [EVALUATION] * Origin: Alien Biker Kat BBS (619) 277-4140 (1:202/1010) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB BREED Number: 10733 To: STEVE KRAISLER Date: 01/01/94 10:41a Subj: MOVIE CD REQUEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BB> Yeah, but that's based on Leonard Maltin's movie guide. The BB>printed version fails both movie tests -- and really is BB>incomplete on Sakall. (Gotta have something little more complete BB>-- although MS Cinemania is a pretty good product. SK> I'm also looking for the "best" movie guide. When you have finished SK> your research and choosen a CD please let me know your choice. Thanks I have an idea that the only one that is going to have the depth will probably be a 'flat based' one. Right now, the Multi- media ones are more interested in adding film clips and sound bites, rather than add details to make a complete data-base. Maybe I'm asking too much, but I feel any 'guide' worth buying should at least cover academy award winners in depth. That is, even if a film wins a minor award, such as set decoration, then that movie should be covered in depth -- everyone who had a speaking part should be mentioned, as should the director, producer etc. S. Z. Sakall appeared in Casablanca -- a small part, but a talking one. Now Casablanca is not only an academy award winning film -- but is a movie legend! (Maltin calls it his 'best movie ever' yet doesn't mention Sakall as having a part in it?) If your going to make a claim to having a 'complete' movie guide -- I think even the janitor on the set should be mentioned on THAT movie [;-) (Well, that's a little much, but you get the idea?) ... Daddy? Why doesn't this magnet stick to these diskettes? ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- ProBoard v1.31 [EVALUATION] * Origin: Alien Biker Kat BBS (619) 277-4140 (1:202/1010) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB BREED Number: 10734 To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 01/01/94 10:41a Subj: KODAK PHOTOCD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BB> It runs under windows, and installs about 1.6 megs of files BB> on your HD when you run the 'setup' program. BB> This disk has 24 test images. They are in a format with a .PCD BB> extention. These images are huge!! The smallest one is 3.5 megs, BB> the largest is 5.7 megs. <Snip lots of good dope, and saved to file.> We're looking at this from two different viewpoints. You appear to have a 'professional' approach to what the CD should be. I'm just a guy taking snapshots of his grand-children and would like some way to quickly show these pictures without having to set up a projector, screen etc. It appears the CD fails both of us. You fault it for its lack of detail -- and I can only agree -- it will be many years before the computer screen/system can ever approach the detail in a photograph, for the very reason your message points out. (God, I cant image trying to store and display images in the giga-byte range!) I fault it for being MORE that what I require. I want something that approaches SVGA resoloutions, stores lots of images inexpensively, and shows them quickly on a un-cluttered screen. (Vpic has the slide-show down pat -- and the GIF format would fill MY needs. Heck, if I want true photo-quality pictures, why not just get prints?) I also have another concern -- how long is the CD disk going to last? When I first read about the disk, I thought "Oh boy, it should last FOREVER! No magnetic field to collapse, no head wear etc. -- gotta be THE answer to long-term storage for computers. Now I see this isn't true! Some folks are saying the disk will start to fail after as few as 6 or 7 years -- something to do with the reflective surface on the disk failing. (I don't know all of the details, but it sure sounds like the search must continue.) Thanks for your input. Any ideas about the rest of this stuff? ... When I was your age, floppys were as big as pizzas. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- ProBoard v1.31 [EVALUATION] * Origin: Alien Biker Kat BBS (619) 277-4140 (1:202/1010) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB BREED Number: 10735 To: DANNY WOFFORD Date: 01/01/94 10:41a Subj: LOOKING FOR MOVIE DATABA Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CS> 1994 which can be recommended regarding Movies ? CS> Are there other CD's ? DW> Yes there is, called Movie Select by Paramount Interactive and DW> may I say it is one of the better ones I have seen including Micrsoft DW> Cinemania......... Next time you have 'movie select' loaded, how about checking how many movies it lists a star named S. Z. Sakall appearing in? (I assume you can search by star?) Also, does it list "Easy To Wed,' and "Twice Blessed"? (Movies made in the 1940's that were less than best sellers.) Thanks. ... 'No Kidding' - a form of birth control. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- ProBoard v1.31 [EVALUATION] * Origin: Alien Biker Kat BBS (619) 277-4140 (1:202/1010) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAT RILEY Number: 10736 To: ALL Date: 12/29/93 1:05a Subj: CR-562B Controller Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Anyone have a Panasonic CR-562B Controller sitting around they don't use? If you do, please respond to me here, I need one. Thanks. --- GOMail v1.2 [DEMO] 01-30-94 * Origin: JAFO! BBS Granite City, Il. 618-797-1675 1:2250/26 (1:2250/26) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAWRENCE MINTZ Number: 10737 To: MIKE BILOW Date: 12/26/93 9:36a Subj: What's a "KZIN" Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BF> * SLMR 2.1a * Dare a kzin follow where a puppeteer leads? > What's a "kzin?" I can't find that in any dictionary. Not terribly surprizing. A "kzin" is a race of creature CREATED by Larry Niven in a series of science fiction stories, most noteably, "RingWorld." Larry --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: Mintz BBS, Silver Spring, MD (1:109/427.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAWRENCE MINTZ Number: 10738 To: AL BRATLIE Date: 12/26/93 9:53a Subj: Advice, please... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Then of course I have the same questions as > other newbees to this > realm. SCSI or not SCSI ? I have been told by several > people that SCSI is the > way to go, but no one has told me why. I already have > 2 IDE hard drives on > my system, so I don't know if the normal CD adapter > cards will work. Once you have ONE SCSI controller in your system, you can place seven (7) devices on that controller, including hard drives, tape drives, CD-ROM drives, etc. That is the advantage of SCSI. SCSI controllers do get along with IDE controllers, ie, you can have both in the same machine. Hard drives on the SCSI controller may not be bootable drives if an IDE controller and drive exist on the same machine. Even the proprietary standard CD-ROM controllers work with IDE controllers and drives. > I see double, and tripple speed drives on the > market now. Just how > fast are these things going to get ? I would hate to > be stuck with something > that 'just meets' the demands of todays software, but > will become obsolete > in a year. Are any of these drives upgradable ? Drives are typically NOT upgradeable, except by replacement with new, faster, units. On the speed issue, there will always be a better, faster, cheaper, solution coming in a few months or years. Why then are you not waiting for the release of Intel's 80686 machine with it's 128 bit wide data paths, 1 megabyte internal cache, etc? Please note that the above specifications are ficticious (I have no inside knowledge as to the NEXT Intel microprocessor,) but are used as an example. Twenty years ago, computers were not consumer products. Twelve years ago, IBM introduced the first PC with a whopping 64k of RAM and an Intel 8088 microprocessor. Today's desktop PCs come with 1 or more megabytes of RAM, 80486 family microprocessors or Pentium (aka 80586) microprocessors, etc. The technology advances all the time, and the rate is increasing. If you need it now, don't worry about what will be obsolete in a year or two, but buy what you need now, when you need it. Larry --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: Mintz BBS, Silver Spring, MD (1:109/427.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC KRICHBAUM Number: 10739 To: CARL REEK Date: 01/01/94 2:49a Subj: Mitsumi/Windows NT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * Replying to a message originally to Thomas Wardman on Dec-29-93 CR>I'll try not to get too far off topic. It's worked extremely CR>well for CR>my needs and I was very impressed with the network tools, CR>security, and CR>the overall robustness. Not happy with the limitations of CR>hardware, but CR>the same was true for OS/2. Hope something will be done soon CR>for CR>drivers to run current hardware (namely my Mitsumi CDRom). CR>Thanks for CR>the note and happy CDing. Happy Holidays! CR> CR> CR>--- WM v3.10/92-0004 CR> * Origin: The Computer Room-Pickerington, Oh (614)861-8377 CR>(1:226/110) I saw a driver for the Mit under NT on Compu$erve. Just FYI to anyone running NT. Eric --- SuperBBS 1.17-3 (Reg) * Origin: The Tek Room BBS Node 3 (304) 292-4744 (1:277/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VAISEY Number: 10740 To: CHRIS SOBOTKIEWICZ Date: 01/01/94 9:44a Subj: ENCARTA CD ENCYCLOPEDIA Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > HEELLPP! Im having problems with my ENCARTA 94 CD. I cant Search > for text, (except for contents), search for animations, videos, or > audios, OORR Images! I says stuff like enc94i2.dll cannpot be accessed, > or MVMCI2.dll cannot be accessed, and when trying to search topics, it > says could not create the bneccessary file for searching. Does anyone > have encarta? Or know what the problems might be? I have those two files > in the Windows, Windows\System and the \encarta directory! But nothing > works! Help! Please! Yeah I got it. I have had NO problems with it. ENC94i2.DLL -- I don't have it and mine works fine. MVMCI2.DLL -- Windows\System ONLY! It sounds like you have a problem with the CD its self. Have a nice day. --- GEcho/786 1.01+ :-) * Origin: LakeShore Lmtd. (Rochester, NY * USA) (1:2613/353) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 10741 To: WEE YUNG Date: 01/01/94 9:41p Subj: Tripple speed CDROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I would like information on the NEC 3xi internal CD-ROM drive: It is 195ms and has 256K cache... What is the maximum capacity in Megabytes that the drive can read? Does it come in a caddyless model? Will it work with the SB16ASP-SCSI-2 interface? Will it work under OS/2 2.1? Thanks for answering my questions... Chris --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: DomTech OS/2 BBS, Aylmer PQ (819)682-5400 HST/DS (1:243/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC ENGELMANN Number: 10742 To: ALL Date: 01/01/94 12:56p Subj: MS-Access Shareware CDROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the 4th edition of its Access CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants extensive databases and search programs to help them find exactly the products they need FAST. The December 1993 CD-ROM has 251 products and the best directory database and search program in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of the 137,000 record PC products database. Voice:+1(301)924-3594, Fax:+1(301)963-2708. --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: Infinite Perspectives (1:109/519) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON WAGNER Number: 10743 To: ALL Date: 12/31/93 8:12p Subj: JourneyMan Project Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Happy New Year everyone!!! I've been reading a lot about 7th Guest in this echo... I have all intention to purchase it, of course, but wonder about all lf its compatibility (or lack thereof)... I have a 486DX2-66 with 8MB RAM and an STB 32-bit card. I will soon have a Mitsumi DoubleSpeed CD-ROM, and either a GUS or a SB (16ASP or Pro, I can't make up my mind here)... Does anyone have a similar setup and have any input for me? Does the game seem to run fine? Now, about Journeyman... How is it? I got it two days ago, but since I don't yet have the CD-ROM I can't play it. I did, however, admit myself to the local hospital after suffering a major heart-attack after looking through the manual!!! Since when does this game turn my PC into a Silicon Graphics Personal Iris Indigo!?!? <G> Seriously, I keep reading "Requires Windows 3.1 or above in 640x480 VGA mode..." So if I run in 1024x768, will I have to change resolutaions everytime I want to run it?!? Or can I run it in 1024x768 full screen (or even not full screen, just as long as I don't have to change resolutions, restart windoze, etc, etc)? Thanks everyone, and enjoy '94! Jason ... Indifference error, press any key. Or don't. See if I care. --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: The Analog Gate *(16.8kbs HST/DS)* (602) 458-0451 (1:309/9) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON WAGNER Number: 10744 To: JOHN ASCENZO Date: 12/31/93 8:18p Subj: ker--bussshhh Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JA> Nail polish remover is almost pure Acetone, which is a strong JA> solvent for other organics, such as polyester and acrylics. The JA> "white stuff" is the residual of dissolved plastic from the JA> surface of your disk following the evaporation of the acetone. JA> It may be possible to recover the disk by polishing the surface JA> with a (very) mildly abrasive compound and restoring the shine. JA> I can't suggest a suitable polish to use but others might. It may also be possible that the acid ate into the CD in an uneven pattern, thus making the CD rough and "rocky..." ie no longer perfectly flat. This may have an adverse affect on its reflective and/or read properties.... A ROM reader cannot read off of a pitted and eaten disc, can it? Just a theory, so someone please prove me wrong so I can learn! <G> Jason ... RAM DISK is NOT an installation procedure! --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: The Analog Gate *(16.8kbs HST/DS)* (602) 458-0451 (1:309/9) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON WAGNER Number: 10745 To: LOYD CRAFT Date: 12/31/93 8:22p Subj: CD Format Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No LC> In the desktop video world, there IS a recordable Laserdisk, which LC> makes cdrom recorder drives look cheap ($38 - 40K). It's also an LC> erasable/rewritable technology. Sort of takes the place of a frame LC> accurate VCR. Noone has hooked one of these up to a computer for LC> storing files like CDROMs do. Interesting... I've seen data stored on VCR Tapes, but never on Laserdisc. That's really cool. Buy 40 Grand for it? Ha! "So what'll it be, man, the 1994 Black Lexus with leather interior or a Laserdisc ROM drive?!?" ;-) Jason ... Anytime things go better, you have overlooked something. --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: The Analog Gate *(16.8kbs HST/DS)* (602) 458-0451 (1:309/9) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON WAGNER Number: 10746 To: RICK BYERS Date: 12/31/93 8:25p Subj: CD Format Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RB> Evev large computer companies have a limit of about 2 Gig on a disk, RB> NCR for example has two (optical I think) drives, with a "jukebox", RB> which is a disk changer, with a max of 140 ( I think ) disks. So I RB> think if a higher capasity drive was available, they'd be using it RB> instead of a slow changer for 280Gig. True, true... But what individual could possibly make use of 280GB of data storage? Geez! I could back up my hard drive... what... 307,200 times on that!?<G> Jason ... It isn't what they say about you, it's what they whisper. Errol Flynn --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: The Analog Gate *(16.8kbs HST/DS)* (602) 458-0451 (1:309/9) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON WAGNER Number: 10747 To: JOE SITKO Date: 12/31/93 8:26p Subj: Lots 'O Questions! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JS> Some CD's do, like games for example. If the CD is strictly a JS> database type CD like Colossal Cookbook or any of the various JS> Shareware CD's, then you really won't put anything on the hard JS> drive. JS> Hope this helps..................... Yep. That definetely helps... Thank a lot! Jason ... Hello. I am part number |||#|##|#|||#|#|#||#|# --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: The Analog Gate *(16.8kbs HST/DS)* (602) 458-0451 (1:309/9) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON WAGNER Number: 10748 To: RICK BYERS Date: 12/31/93 8:27p Subj: Lots 'O Questions! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RB> Ok, often times, the makers of the program that's on CD will install RB> some files on your hard drive. It depends on the program. Sometimes RB> they will give you the option. I have a mitsumi also, and it's serving RB> me fine for the moment. The Encyclopedia that I have installed 550K on RB> my hard drive wich isn't bad, but I think it gave me the option of RB> either the slower method (installing just the necasary files), which is RB> what I did, or the quicker method of installing everything but the data RB> files. Hmmm... The option thing really appeals to me. I hope all manufactures end up giving the user the option of whether to run a slow program that unpacks, or a fast one that takes up drive space... Would be nice to actually have an option... TTYL Jason ... "Clinton" - The Chia-Pet of cheif executives everywhere! --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: The Analog Gate *(16.8kbs HST/DS)* (602) 458-0451 (1:309/9) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WEE YUNG Number: 10749 To: ROBERT BRIGGS Date: 01/01/94 1:01a Subj: MSCDEX and Dos 6.x Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RB>Does anyone know where to obtain a (more current) copy of RB>MSCDEX that does not require the use of SETVER under DOs RB>6.2 ? I could use the extra memory... It come with Dos 6.0 or 6.2 and it is in your Dos directory. Just copy over your cdrom directory * OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240 --- Maximus 2.00 * Origin: Long_Island RB (310) 370-4113 VAX EC (HST 16.8K/V32b) (1:102/138) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WEE YUNG Number: 10750 To: KEN DUKE Date: 01/01/94 1:01a Subj: LU005 Mitsumi CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KD>What is the best Sound card to buy with a CD-ROM interface built on the card KD>for this type CD-ROM drive? The SB16 MCD and the Sound Galaxy would have it build in. All brand new with manufacture warranty. Sound Galaxy NX Pro w/speakers, SB Pro, covox, Disney comp.....$109 Sound Galaxy NX 16 + headphone w/o mic.........................$139 Sound Blaster 16 MCD with Pana/mitsumi/sony controller.........$169 Magnetic Shielded Multimedia Stereo Speaker system $9 Tower twin Speakers w/emplified and volume control.............$15 Dynamic stereo 25W emplified speaker with AC adapter build in..$49 MIDI cable for any sound card with Joystick port...............$29. Price does not included shipping. Internet WEE%ghs.UUCP@USC.edu Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC 16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra * OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240 --- Maximus 2.00 * Origin: Long_Island RB (310) 370-4113 VAX EC (HST 16.8K/V32b) (1:102/138) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WEE YUNG Number: 10751 To: GREG PIGOTT Date: 01/01/94 1:01a Subj: Cdrom \ Sound Kit Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GP>I am going to purchase both a sound card and a CD-Rom drive and am GP>considering a kit. One of my primary concerns is the speed of the If you want the fastest on market then get the SB16 SCSI and the NEC 3Xi The SCSI is faster than AT type on transfer rate All brand new with manufacture warranty. Sound Blaster 16 with SCSI-2 Controller build in w/MIC.........$179. Sound Blaster 16 with SCSI and ASP.............................$209 NEC 3Xi Tripple speed 445k/s 195ms.............................$489 Creative Lab Discovery 8. D spin CDROM+SB Pro+2CDs+Speakers....$359. Creative Lab Discovery 16.D spin CDROM+SB 16 +2CDs+Speakers....$419. Creative Lab Digitalege D spin CDROM+SB16 ASP+4CDs+Speakers/mic$649 Media Vision Pro 16 + NEC 55J D spin 350ms+speakers............$429. Media Vision Fusion Double16. PAS16+NEC D spin 350ms+speakers..$599 Media Vision Pro 16 + Toshiba 3401B+speakers+6 titles..........$599 Price does not included $10 shipping. Internet WEE%ghs.UUCP@USC.edu Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC 16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra * OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240 --- Maximus 2.00 * Origin: Long_Island RB (310) 370-4113 VAX EC (HST 16.8K/V32b) (1:102/138) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WEE YUNG Number: 10752 To: MIKE CONVRY Date: 01/01/94 1:01a Subj: Nec 3x drives????? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MC>All right all you lucky folks who were nice this year and Santa brought MC>you a cd-rom drive. I'm looking to get some feedback on the NEC 3xi/e It is fast and have control panel to run Music CD on front instead of use software to run. I sell it for $489 * OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240 --- Maximus 2.00 * Origin: Long_Island RB (310) 370-4113 VAX EC (HST 16.8K/V32b) (1:102/138) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR Number: 10753 To: ALL Date: 12/28/93 9:01p Subj: Freddy Pharkas Frontier Pharmacist Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi All! This is especially to all the Sierra Gamers out there... How do I fill up Penelope's prescription in the above game?! Thanks in advance to everyone. TTYL __________________________________ Giuliano Maciocci Jr (AKA Raver) FidoNet : 5:7211/1.78 InterNet: Maciocci2@mango.apc.org ---------------------------------- CP 2.00 [GM] ■ ... So it is Written, So Let it be Done! --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: DREAMLAND (The House Of RAVE 5:7211/1.78) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR Number: 10754 To: JUAN LUIS PASTOR Date: 12/29/93 9:52a Subj: Re: SB PRO + CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Juan! On dark and windy Tuesday December 21 1993, Juan Luis Pastor bellowed: JLP> I've just bought a SB PRO and a CD-ROM Sony 31A-03. I know the CD-ROM JLP> can't be controlled by the sound card, but does it exist any adapter JLP> to connect it to the SB connector? Another thing, can the SB PRO JLP> control the Panasonic 562B CD-ROM? Don't know about the first question, but the answer to the second one is a definite, loud and echoing YES!! I have that combo and it's great! TTYL __________________________________ Giuliano Maciocci Jr (AKA Raver) FidoNet : 5:7211/1.78 InterNet: Maciocci2@mango.apc.org ---------------------------------- CP 2.00 [GM] ■ One night I came home very late. It was the next night --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: DREAMLAND (The House Of RAVE 5:7211/1.78) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR Number: 10755 To: RICKY BOOTH Date: 12/29/93 9:55a Subj: Re: CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Ricky! On dark and windy Friday December 24 1993, Ricky Booth bellowed: >> I'd Recommend the Mitsumi..... RB> Mitsumi's are cheap. I'd reccomend a philips over a mitsumi any day. RB> Panasonic, NEC, or Pioneer are the best. I'd again recommend a Panasonic CR562b (OMNICD, Lasermate...) 'cause I have it and it's really cool. Runs the 7th Guest smoothly, and it's easy to install. Plus it looks nice with the tray and all :-) TTYL __________________________________ Giuliano Maciocci Jr (AKA Raver) FidoNet : 5:7211/1.78 InterNet: Maciocci2@mango.apc.org ---------------------------------- CP 2.00 [GM] ■ Violinists do it with long strokes. --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: DREAMLAND (The House Of RAVE 5:7211/1.78) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR Number: 10756 To: RICKY BOOTH Date: 12/29/93 9:57a Subj: Re: Good Shareware Cds Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Ricky! On dark and windy Friday December 24 1993, Ricky Booth bellowed: >> Night Owl (Can remember the newest version...) Pheniox 4 is RB> You're kidding right? Night Owl is crap. And Pheonix is worse. Cream RB> of the Crop or Pier is the way to go! "CRAP?!" What the hell are you talking about? Did you come here to join the "Night Owl Bashing Contest?" I really DO NOT believe you have the CD. Well I have it and it's EXCELLENT, the only thing you gotta do is not unzip the 2 infected files (even if you do, there's little danger of infection if you have a virus shield, otherwise those files are useless anyway). Please stop talking about what you do not know. I've used the CD for months, and am still finding new stuff. If you're a cry baby who goes around saying "mommy mommy the CD has **2** viruses" than it means that a--you use Windoze and Windoze only b--you believe every rumour you hear and do not bother to check whether it's true. Regards. Giuliano Maciocci Jr (AKA Raver) CP 2.00 [GM] ■ Holy Smokes!...."the church is on fire!" --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: DREAMLAND (The House Of RAVE 5:7211/1.78) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR Number: 10757 To: JOE SITKO Date: 12/29/93 10:05a Subj: Re: 7Th Guest & SVGA ques Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Joe! On dark and windy Tuesday December 21 1993, Joe Sitko bellowed: JS> I've found a guy who is selling a used Trident SVGA card with 1 meg of JS> memory for $40 delivered. The best price I could find in Computer JS> Shopper for this board was $54 plus shipping, so I think I got a JS> fairly good deal. DO NOT BUT A TRIDENT!! I have one, the 8900C, and it's painfully slow at hi-res. Go for the et-4000, like I'me about to buy one. TTYL __________________________________ Giuliano Maciocci Jr (AKA Raver) FidoNet : 5:7211/1.78 InterNet: Maciocci2@mango.apc.org ---------------------------------- CP 2.00 [GM] ■ Curiosity kills more mice than cats. --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: DREAMLAND (The House Of RAVE 5:7211/1.78) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR Number: 10758 To: NORM HILL Date: 12/29/93 10:12a Subj: Re: Reveal Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Norm! On dark and windy Thursday December 23 1993, Norm Hill bellowed: NH> they also have computer shows where you can get Panasonic CR-562's NH> that work great with the SB Pro's. Be warned that there is no USA NH> support for them until March 1994. 290ms seek time 300kbps transfer NH> rate. $230 is the going price...very good drive! 290ms ? Aren't they supposed to be 320ms? Info, please? TTYL __________________________________ Giuliano Maciocci Jr (AKA Raver) FidoNet : 5:7211/1.78 InterNet: Maciocci2@mango.apc.org ---------------------------------- --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: DREAMLAND (The House Of RAVE 5:7211/1.78) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR Number: 10759 To: JOHN ALEXANDER Date: 12/29/93 10:19a Subj: Re: Great Games??? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi John! On dark and windy Friday December 24 1993, John Alexander bellowed: JA> DOTT is an excellent game. I loved it. It was a fun game. It didn't Thanks for the advice, I think I'll go for it! TTYL __________________________________ Giuliano Maciocci Jr (AKA Raver) FidoNet : 5:7211/1.78 InterNet: Maciocci2@mango.apc.org ---------------------------------- You can't teach people to be lazy - either they have it or they don't. --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: DREAMLAND (The House Of RAVE 5:7211/1.78) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR Number: 10760 To: CLIVE CARMOCK Date: 12/29/93 10:21a Subj: Re: Panasonic 562B Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Clive! On dark and windy Monday December 20 1993, Clive Carmock bellowed: CC> Does anyone know if software to enable audio CD's to be played in a CC> Panasonic 562B CD ROm drive exist, and if so where I might be able to CC> get them? The sound blaster software package has a decent CD player for DOS.Try it. I also got another, memory resident one, with the CDROM drive, together with the drivers. CC> When using this drive with a Soundblaster 16 is CDMKE40.SYS the CC> correct driver? YEECH!! I have CDMKE43.SYS. Yours is kinda old, I'm afraid. TTYL __________________________________ Giuliano Maciocci Jr (AKA Raver) FidoNet : 5:7211/1.78 InterNet: Maciocci2@mango.apc.org ---------------------------------- CP 2.00 [GM] ■ Fools rush in where Fools have been before! --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: DREAMLAND (The House Of RAVE 5:7211/1.78) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEAN SNYMAN Number: 10761 To: MIKE GERVASI Date: 12/29/93 10:14a Subj: T7G Maze Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mike! 25 Dec 93 22:14, Mike Gervasi wrote to Stean Snyman: MG> I noticed when I was doing the Chess puzzle (the one with the bishops) MG> that the rug in front of it has a map of a maze on it. Could this be MG> for the one you're speaking of? I figured out this IS in fact the map to the maze you have to walk through.. (After you solved the CAN puzzle in the Kitchen you can access the maze through the door next to the cupboard.).. But the maze you walk in is NO-WHERE the same proportions than the one on the floor, don't ask me why!... Adios Stean --- Gotcha v1.01 RT * Origin: Where Keyboards Cry, The Electro, CT, RSA (5:7102/114) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANDREW BARNHARDT Number: 10762 To: VINCE SORENSEN Date: 12/30/93 5:01p Subj: SHAREWARE CDS.. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No )) Vince Sorensen to Andrew Barnhardt about 'SHAREWARE CDS..'; VS> If you'd like to maximize the number of CDs your shareware appears VS> on, the best idea is to distribute it widely. To do this, you'll VS> probably want to contact Ray Kaliss @ the SDN Project. SDN is a VS> non-profit network that distributes shareware only. The BBS number is VS> 1-203-634-0370. Download a file called (I believe the latest is) VS> SDNKIT9.EXE... that will contain all the details you need. Thanks for the info Vince, I think I'll give that number a call. I've briefly heard about SDN before but was not aware of it's purpose. = Andrew B. --- PTQWK 1.05 (Reg.) * Origin: The Prime Directive, USR DS 16.8, Node *2 905-894-2504 (1:247/305) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MTRAFFIC Number: 10763 To: ALL Date: 01/01/94 2:35a Subj: Traffic Report! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ********************************************************************* * Birdsoft Poster Record for Area: CDROM * * Messages received by Robotech BBS (1:3600/7) * * Mon, Nov 1, 1993 - Fri, Dec 31, 1993 * ********************************************************************* Posts Name Average Size Address ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 43 Chris Zito 1053 1:141/333 40 David Silver 807 1:369/8 38 GEORGE DASWANI 1086 1:207/225 38 Andrew See 885 3:712/218 37 Ed Duchek 572 1:387/635.1 30 Stean Snyman 882 5:7102/114 30 Chad Reid 1243 1:207/703.0 30 Rick Nay 604 1:3619/25 28 Tony Stott 1204 3:714/906 27 Leslie Rhorer 788 1:387/800.4 27 Rick Pedley 929 1:249/1 25 Marcus Lee 1311 3:640/203 25 CHET HART 1148 1:363/69 24 Poe Lim 874 3:623/630 24 William Schneider, Jr. 1021 1:215/60 24 Mike Bilow 1441 1:323/107 24 Phil Trevorrow 725 1:322/736 24 Dave Wong 480 1:343/15 23 Arnie Gross 794 1:141/950.1 22 Laurie Batt 1144 3:640/532 22 Steve Kraisler 767 1:273/941 21 John Alexander 1016 1:170/604 21 Lawrence Mintz 1100 1:109/427.1 21 Tim Helton 673 1:133/515.0 20 Chris Conklin 695 1:383/25 (truncated for brevity) [Sorry. Screwed up and forgot to reset in November] Total = 3929 by 1024 authors. --- SLMAIL v3.0 (#1540) * Origin: Robotech BBS +HST+ *MODs/GIFs/Demos* 904-758-9477 # (1:3600/7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM MILLER Number: 10764 To: JOE RINEHART Date: 01/01/94 3:04p Subj: CREAM OF THE CROP II Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Greetings James ! In a message to Joe Rinehart <12/31/93> James Martin wrote: JM| I run Remote Access 2.01 and the Ra_CREAM convertion program is the BE JM| infact the ONLY one i've seen that WORKS. Will this CD work well on a Wildcat System? * WCE 1.5/2163 * Always be sincere, even if you don't mean it. --- WM v3.00/92-0228 * Origin: Miller's Crossing Slidell, LA. 14.4 (1:390/22.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOUG WARREN Number: 10765 To: ALL Date: 12/31/93 8:11p Subj: Panasonic 562/563 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No i would like to know the difference between the panasonic 562 and 563 cdroms. i heard the 563 (creative labs omni) is the only panasonic that will interface to the sb16 mcd card. i would like to know if this is correct since i have a sb16 multicd card and want a drive that will hook directly to it. thanks for the help. doug warren --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Kludger's Konnection BBS(915)653-5115 (1:383/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOMMY VOSS Number: 10766 To: DAVE ELLISON Date: 12/30/93 5:51a Subj: Re: Virus Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> With some of the stuff I've seen you say recently, I wouldn't be sayi -> You know absolutely SQUAT about viruses and you're trying to pass you -> as some kind of virus expert! Wow, you have a collection of what, tw -> viruses? Oops, three if there's one in FUTURE1.EXE or whatever it's -> Dude, call up a VX, get yourself some viruses, play with 'em a while, -> your hard drive, THEN you can come back and tell us what you know. U -> keep your trap shut and quit making a fool of yourself! -> Well Dave... That looked really rude... I like it! HAHAHA... hey I've done my share of playing with viruses as well as programming them... hey dont worry people I've never distributed one of the ones I made just like to see what I can do! :) I didn't read the message this was replieing to but what do you know about viruses... anything worthwile? TOM --- WM v3.01/92-0026 * Origin: The Programmers Attic (713) 894-4429 (1:106/462.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 10767 To: DOUG BARTHOLOMEW Date: 01/01/94 12:32a Subj: BUNDLE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DB>Do you have a Night Owl bundle with all of the Night Owl series CD's? I am DB>looking for Night Owl 4 thru 10. Also, what is the price? Doug, We have a N.O. 6,7,8, and 10.1 bundle for $79. 9 is hard to get right now, and the previous releases have long been out of production, but we do still have these left. Call if you're interested. Later, .\\ike STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs. ORDERS: 509-457-2892 * FAX: 509-457-2966 * BBS (14.4): 509-457-0206 * SLMR 2.1a * I still miss my ex-wife, but my aim is getting better. --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 10768 To: ALL Date: 01/01/94 12:32a Subj: NEWEST CD-ROM TITLES..... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No | Starvector Sales Bulletin #1: NEW CD ARRIVALS | CD POWERBOX 2 * The newest of the new! Current shareware hits. BBS.....$29 HAM RADIO/SCANNER COMPANION * Lots of essential utilities for Hams.....$23 OCEANS BELOW * Fantastic multimedia exploration of undersea life.......$27 PROPHONE 1993 4TH QTR * Latest update of the 7-CD phone directory.....$109 REBEL ASSAULT * New and hot from Lucasarts. Great interactive game.....$49 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs. 509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!) * SLMR 2.1a * If it's British, it leaks. --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 10769 To: ALL Date: 01/01/94 12:32a Subj: NEW CD PACKAGE SPECIALS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No | Starvector Sales Bulletin #5: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS | 1. CD Powerbox 1 2. Pier 2 3. MVP Game Jamboree CD Powerbox 2 Pier 3 House of Games Pier 3 Monster Media 93 Gameware Collection ------ ---------------- ------------------- $49 $59 $49 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs. 509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!) * SLMR 2.1a * I think my data transmission is low on fluid. --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THE LAWMAN Number: 10770 To: TIM SCHOOLER Date: 01/01/94 4:20a Subj: Re: CDROM DRIVE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> JM> I might Be interested in buying your offer if that *125.00* is -> JM> $125.00 i am looking for a cd-rom for my network/bbs -> -> -> Thanks Jeremy, but I sold it last week. -> --- Sqed/32 0.87/r15033 -> * Origin: You Are What You Is (1:3803/1.4) I still have 2 mutsumi's left and both are new (one is 2 months old and the other is 6 months old, still have the box and all materials). Just bought and hooked up the pioneer 600-a unit. I guess I'll sell mine to another sysop for 125 if you pay shipping, was wanting 150 since they were new. I had paid 219 and 199 resspectively. Helps me out room wise now, I can add the 2 gig scsi where the 3 cd drives were. May add that now since I can get one now for $1000. You can call me at the office at 615-333-0295, if not there leave a message and I'll call ya back. --- WM v3.01/93-0705 * Origin: Emerald City (615) 754-4351 7 gigs, 5 nodes (1:116/39.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THE LAWMAN Number: 10771 To: MIKE MORRELL Date: 01/01/94 4:32a Subj: CDROM Multichanger Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I currently run a "CDROM" door here, and would like to install a mult -> system. My door program supports such a unit, but I cannot seem to lo -> I think Panasonic was the model mentioned and it holds 6 cd's. Can an -> -> Regards -> Mike -> -> --- QScan v1.03b -> * Origin: Fleet BBS (216) 646 0655 (1:157/583) Yep, for a bbs, and for price considerations the DRM-600a is just fine, just put mine in yesterday and works just fine. The scsi card works ok too with the 2 ide drives (which I'll soon replace with a 2 gig scsi drive). Kinda like the idea of diasy chaining 7 devices when as needed. Price isn't bad either, mid $700 w/o the controller, saw one somebody said had the cable ($70) and controller ($160) and the 600-A for $600 and something but didn't say who was selling this so cheap. --- WM v3.01/93-0705 * Origin: Emerald City (615) 754-4351 7 gigs, 5 nodes (1:116/39.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEVIN O'BUCKLEY Number: 10772 To: ALL Date: 12/30/93 3:58p Subj: Labyrinth of Time Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Has anyone out there played Labyrinth of Time CD? This is an excellent new game by Electronic Arts, but I am having trouble. I can't seem to go anywhere! I'm unable to go anywhere in a mine shaft, and there are a bunch of locked door I can't break through. If you haven't seen Labyrinth, I suggest you take a look at it! It has great sound and graphics, but it doesn't have speech. Thanks. Kevin --- VPurge [DOS] V4.07 * Origin: The School Board [Hornell, NY, USA] (1:260/650) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM WEISS Number: 10773 To: SCOTT CATO Date: 12/30/93 8:26p Subj: Re: Rebel Assualt Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To fix your joystick problem, there are 1 of two things you can do that I know of. One-call Lucas Arts BBS and get the 1.4 patch. It is a rewritten ASSAULT.EXE that corrects the joystick problem. Two, there is a much shorter file out there called RAEASY.EXE which allows you to edit joystick parameters directly for every mission, along with changing a whole bunch of other stuff. I highly reccomed this over anything else!! --- * Origin: The Blue Oyster BBS - 315-732-8598 (1:2609/502) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY NOLES Number: 10774 To: ED WELCH Date: 12/30/93 11:27p Subj: RE: TOSHIBA_VS PANASONIC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No EW>hey gary! EW>i've got a SB PRO and i'm thinking of getting the panasonic 2x for it EW>i've got a 486dx 33 4meg ram, 130 hd, svga 1meg, 64k cache EW>is this good enough to run he cr-rom? EW>are there any other faster drives compatible with my SB PRO? EW>should i upgrade my ram to 8megs, get another hd, upgrade my cache? Sorry to but in, but that sounds almost exactly like my machine and I added a Panasonic 2x this year. It works great with the system, now if I only had a little faster video card to push the graphics!!! SBpro and the 2x work great together, but I do have 5 meg onboard and want to go up from there. In answer to the question, yes you have enough to run the system, but check and see if your video card is high performance and consider upgrading memory (who doesn't, but until prices drop ...) and they will help you get the most from the drive. Gary ... Buy a 486-33 you can reboot faster * Noles * --- WM v3.10/93-0102 * Origin: The Dateline BBS (205) 747-4194 (1:3607/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HIPPS Number: 10775 To: ALL Date: 01/02/94 12:00a Subj: Panasonic 563's problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I'm running a Windows BBS with software called Excalibur, the problem I'm having with the Panasonic 563's drives are read errors when accessing the two drives I have chained together. If I go to file manager and read/access the drives before entering the BBS software I have no problems at all. It's only when I access the BBS software before reading the drives, is when the problem occurs. I was using a couple of scsi drives before the Panasonic's with no problem, so I don't think the BBS software is the culprit here. Strange, any ideas anyone? --- * CmpQwk #UNREG * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY VQWK 6.20 [Rev D - 11/14] --- VFIDO 6.10.05 * Origin: Futura (1:379/501) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEAN SINICO Number: 10776 To: DIANE PENCIL Date: 12/31/93 10:39p Subj: Re: Scsiworks Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Diane Pencil Said this and Now I'm doing something <=- DP> I would hope the software would be considerably less than DP> 70-80 since the t-130b card with scsiworks sells for 89.00. That is rather susprising, since the software itself cost $60.00. And that was the cheapest I could find after 1.5 hours of calling different mail order places. If you could give me the name and number of the place that sells both of these items for $89.00 I would greatly appreciate it. thank you Sean Sinico ... "Actually, Artoo has been known to make mistakes..." -- C3PO ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: B.E. Home of AUTORACE Echo! 413-499-1327 (1:321/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEAN SINICO Number: 10777 To: JOE RINEHART Date: 12/31/93 10:41p Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Joe Rinehart Said this and Now I'm doing something <=- JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!************* JR> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog... JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us. Yes, I would love to get a copy of your list. Sean Sinico 4 Cooper Road Great Barrington, MA 01230 Thanks, Sean ... Don't worry: The answer's at the back of the book. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: B.E. Home of AUTORACE Echo! 413-499-1327 (1:321/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON KULHA Number: 10778 To: ALL Date: 12/31/93 7:11p Subj: Multimedia Authoring Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Since I haven't seen much discussion of it here I was wondering if there were any echos where discussion of multimedia tools, authoring, title production were held. I'm also interested in front ends for organizing and delivering info on CD. Info primarily would be graphics files....pcx/gif/avi...reccomendations/info on licensing/etc. much appreciated. DCK --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Sonoma Online (1:125/7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS ZITO Number: 10779 To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 12/31/93 3:20p Subj: Doom on a GUS? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No AB> Hey Chirs, hows it going having talked to you in a while, well I have AB> played the game and love that sound aswell, well I had some problems AB> getting the music to work but I fixed it, well TTYL. AB> Ashwin Hi Ashwin, did you try the game with headphones? Isn't Focal Point 3D? I heard some people even finished a level with their eyes closed because the GUS 3d sound was so good, they could tell where everything was coming from. As for problems at first, yeah, me too, but I got the patch and everything works fine. The Problem was with IRQ's I think, and will be eliminated from all future versions of DOOM. iD did one hell of a job with the game though. --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Ascii Neighborhood - The place to be. (1:141/333) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TED THOMPSON Number: 10780 To: WALTER CHISENSKI Date: 12/28/93 7:07a Subj: "video" games Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> .. BUT It's also woth picking up the PC CD-ROM for it's advantages. -> 7th Guest and some other good stuff on CD-ROM) It will be interesti -> all this is reallly gonna go...? My son has a Sega video system (no cd) and I was trying to find some games for my NEC CDR-74 that he might find fun. Are you basically saying that anything I might get him for the PC on CD will be second rate to the Sega video games? Can you suggest anything he might enjoy for the PC? He's ten but in all accellerated classes in school and seems to master the Sega games very quickly, too quickly I sometimes think. --- ■ RM 1.2 00125 ■ Is this yours? Your dog left it on my lawn ... --- Mosaic v0.99/l * Origin: HH Info-Net BBS, New Hartford, Ct (1:142/335) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANDREW SEE Number: 10781 To: TONY SAUNDERS Date: 12/30/93 11:28a Subj: Return to Zork Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TS>Anyway,I quite like the game even if I do find the interface a TS>little clunky and crude when you compare it to an interface like the TS>Lucas Arts' "SCUMM" system. I actually thought the interface was one of the better aspects of the game, but then I haven't really played the Lucas games much. TS>The sound drivers are very odd.I ended up using the SB16 option even TS>though my Sound Galaxy NX Pro 16 is not supposed to support it.The TS>Windows Sound system and Disney sound source didn't work even though The sound drivers with RTZ are the industry standard Miles drivers with the extension *.adv, the sbdig.adv or adlibfm.adv driver with this game is exactly the same as the corresponding driver that ships with other games using these drivers (7TH guest, Seal Team etc). Interestingly, RTZ only supports the SB/Pro/16 as adlib for music. * CmpQwk #UNREG * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- EzyQwk V1.02 * Origin: 500cc: 12 Gigs, 16+ Lines In Early '94 02-550-4317 (3:712/218) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY STOTT Number: 10782 To: TONY SAUNDERS Date: 01/01/94 11:07a Subj: T/l Graphics Card Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 12-26-93, in a colourful display of the English language, Tony Saunders said to Tony Stott:- TS>Hi Tony,I noticed that you have a TSENG LABS graphics card.I had one o TS>those in my 486DX33 computer when I bought it 2 months ago but I had t TS>change it to a ACTIX Prostar VL card with Cirrus Logic chipset because TS>a TS>lot of games I tried had the wrong colors displayed.Mostly red where TS>black should be plus a lot of other colours. TS>The games it was most noticable on were Comanche,Alone in the TS>Dark,Certain scenes in Syndicate. TS>Have you had that problem or do you have a slower computer? The TS>Comanche readme.doc mentions the T/L card may miss I/O commands when running in a 486 computer causing wrong colours I have a 486DX33 and only notice some wrong colours very rarely.. Maybe mine is from a different batch? --- ■ WinQwk 2.0 B4 #220 ■ I was on a roll till I slipped on the butter --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Coastal Communications Multiline BBS (02)977-6820 (3:714/906) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SHERREE JOHANSSON Number: 10783 To: ARTHUR OLGUIN Date: 12/29/93 9:28a Subj: Sausages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No AO> I am new to this cooking board. I like what I see. AO> Anyway, what I would like to ask everyone for my first request for a AO> receipe is sausages. I am looking for all kinds of Welcome Art, I like what I see in here too, I am forever retyping recipes people are so wonderful to pass on. Here are a few sausage recipes. And to anyone else who likes them, I apologise for not putting them in Mealmaster format but I do not have Mealmaster. Software shops are sparse here and I havn't seen the program. CZAR'S PEASANT SAUSAGE 500 gms lean pork, hind leg (knuckle) or back (blade) 300 gms lean beef 200 gms back bacon fat or belly without skin 20 gms salt 1/2 tsp finely ground white pepper 1/2 tsp finely ground nutmeg 1 tsp marjoram 1 tbsp milk Mince meat mass and fat through 10mm disc, then mix in all other ingredients for 5-10 mins. Fill pork casings and twist into 150mm lengths. ************* MONASTERY HERBAL SAUSAGE 400 gms lean pork 400 gms lean beef 200 gms green pork back fat or fatty pork belly without skin 20 gms salt 2 level tsps finely ground white pepper 1 tsp thyme 1 tsp marjoram 5 pieces pimento 1 piece finely ground cinnamon Mince pork, beef and fat through 8mm disc. Mix herbs and spices and sprinkle over meat mass and mix all together by hand for 5-10 mins. Fit funnel to mixer and fill pork casings. Twist into length of choice. ****************** Cont.. ___ X RM 1.2 X Eval Day 13 X RoboMail -- The next generation QWK compatible reader! --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Paradise BBS, Australia's Gold Coast, +61-75-971717 (3:640/937) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: VICKI CRAWFORD Number: 10784 To: ROBERT HAWORTH Date: 12/29/93 8:04a Subj: Legality of X CDs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Dec 25, 1993>, Robert Haworth wrote to All: RH> I wonder if anyone knows what has happened about the legality of RH> X or porn CDs in Australia. I understand there have been big RH> probs in the states with some BBSs being busted,etc. Nothing RH> like censorship in a democratic society! This information is only applicable to Australia. Why don't you ring and ask your local Attorney General's Dept.? At present there is NO classification on computer-generated graphics. BUT that is being looked at by the relevant A.G. Depts. and new proposals are being formulated. Ask if the "white paper" has been released yet and if you can have a copy? The other issues being looked at are computer/video games violence. Vicki --- msgedsq 2.1 * Origin: Computer Connection - Adelaide, Aust. (08)326 2388 (3:800/809) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: VICKI CRAWFORD Number: 10785 To: ANDREW SEE Date: 12/29/93 8:07a Subj: Re: CDROM echo In Aust Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Dec 25, 1993>, Andrew See wrote to VICKI CRAWFORD: VC>>Withdrawal of financial support is the reason the echo is not VC>>coming into Aust. anymore. VC>>Writing won't help, send money is the positive reply. AS> Who to? The Salvation Army? No seriously, I think most of us here AS> are financial contributors to various BBS's, I personally AS> subscribe to 2. This is a fair contribution to the "system" AS> I feel. Your subscription to 2 BBS's doesn't get to the mail importers at all. Your payments are exactly to the 2 bbs's you support. That helps pay SOME of the expense those BBS's have. Your subscription does not go any further than the immediate area. The main mail importers reply on sponsorship/donations from business/sysops/friends, or they carry the main costs themselves. Most sysops wouldn't even know how the echos even arrive here in Oz. They just know "that some-one does it and feeds it to the Oz backbone". Majority of sysops certainly don't send any of their users subscriptions to the mail haulers. Vicki --- msgedsq 2.1 * Origin: Computer Connection - Adelaide, Aust. (08)326 2388 (3:800/809) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANDREW SEE Number: 10786 To: TED HARPER Date: 12/30/93 11:54p Subj: Cdrom Echo In Aust Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TH>There is NO cost-recovery system for Fidonet echomail in Australia. TH>We sysops do not pay into any "slush fund" for mail importation or TH>movement. Those that move large volumes of mail around the country do TH>so out of their own pocket, or through some private sponsorship TH>scheme they may have with their company. TH>Dave Hatch was bringing in a huge volume of mail into the country and TH>acts as the "zone gate" for virtually all international netmail TH>between Australia and the rest of the world. TH>Fidonet as an entity does not contribute one red cent to his costs. TH>Due to necessary and suddenly enforced belt-tightening, he has TH>dropped about a dozen of the international echos which he was TH>importing, but didn't have a direct personal interest in (remember TH>this is a *hobby* and an expensive one for some of us) - CDROM is TH>just one of those. TH>Any money you pay in subscriptions to Fidonet BBSs in Australia goes TH>to the upkeep, care and feeding of that system _only_, not any of the TH>infrastructure which actually provides the value to the overall TH>network. Other networks may have some form of echomail cost-recovery TH>mechanism, but the metering, billing and actual collection and TH>distribution of the money cause huge problems in most cases. TH>There is no "system" for you to contribute to, other than directly TH>supporting the person whose STD and ISD bills make the echos you like TH>possible. You could also possibly set up an international link TH>yourself, only needing to find a reliable overseas feed and a lazy TH>couple of hundred dollars a week every week to bring in the echos you TH>feel you may now be missing out on. Ted, having read thru your explanantion above, I feel that the fidonet mail cost system is inadequate. Surely a *much* better, more reliable system would be to get a small contribution from all participating sysops, then pool the money for importation of mail. The reliability of a system which places the financial burden on one dude is low, however if it is distributed among hundreds, the loss of any one contibutor won't make a difference. Do they have fido-sysop meetings/conventions etc? This should be considered. I believe this is what the GTnet does. --- Fmail.96+/RA2+/IM2.25+ * Origin: Galen BBS "A Happy Heart is like Good Medicine" (3:711/920) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROD SPEED Number: 10787 To: DAVID ADKINS Date: 12/30/93 7:48a Subj: SB16s and Panasonic 562 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Where from tho ? The Creative Pacific BBS only has that one now and -> quick look around on Compuserve couldnt even find that, just the OS/2 -> one. DA> Where can the OS/2 one be got from I know a friend who is looking for DA> this. Both the Creative Pacific BBS on 02 906 8392 and Compuserve have that one. Its available on some of the OS/2 specific BBSs too. --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Ten Minute Limit (3:711/934) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE MANN Number: 10788 To: KYLE MACHULIS Date: 01/01/94 10:00a Subj: Trouble... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Kyle Machulis wrote: > Havin problems.... I'm tring to run the SOFTWARE TOOLWORKS > MULTIMEDIA ENCYCLOPEDIA 1992... And when I try to run video.. > It says INSUFFECENT MEMORY.... Yet i have QEMM running, and > have 645k free... How do I get this to run right? It is not the amount of free DOS base memory that is important but the amount of free memory (and resourses) in Windows. If you create a swap file for virtual memory your problem should be solved. VFW seems to require a lot of memory. I am also assuming this new CDROM echo link (Aust./US) is bi-directional otherwise I'm speaking to myself. Cheers, Steve. --- msgedsq 2.2b * Origin: ENCOM Support - 3:711/440 (3:711/440) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE MANN Number: 10789 To: TONY MARTIN Date: 01/01/94 10:13a Subj: Goliers V6 and MS Encarta Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tony Martin wrote to Simon Chung: > I have both encyclopedias and I rate Encarta the best > because of its huge amounts of multimedia extras. There are ... > I don't think the quality of the text differs a great > amount between the two so I'd go for Encarta. Many, including myself, would disagree with you. They're both excellent but most agree the depth of information is better on Groliers. Cheers, Steve. --- msgedsq 2.2b * Origin: ENCOM Support - 3:711/440 (3:711/440) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DANIEL PEACOCK Number: 10790 To: SHERREE JOHANSSON Date: 01/01/94 3:59p Subj: Sausages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 29 Dec 93 at 09:28, Sherree Johansson of 3:640/937 wrote: AO>> I am new to this cooking board. I like what I see. AO>> Anyway, what I would like to ask everyone for my first request AO>> for a receipe is sausages. I am looking for all kinds of SJ> Welcome Art, SJ> I like what I see in here too, I am forever retyping recipes SJ> people are so wonderful to pass on. SJ> Here are a few sausage recipes. And to anyone else who likes SJ> them, I apologise for not putting them in Mealmaster format but SJ> I do not have Mealmaster. Software shops are sparse here and I SJ> havn't seen the program. SJ> CZAR'S PEASANT SAUSAGE SJ> 500 gms lean pork, hind leg (knuckle) or back (blade) SJ> 300 gms lean beef SJ> 200 gms back bacon fat or belly without skin SJ> 20 gms salt SJ> 1/2 tsp finely ground white pepper SJ> 1/2 tsp finely ground nutmeg SJ> 1 tsp marjoram SJ> 1 tbsp milk SJ> Mince meat mass and fat through 10mm disc, then mix in all SJ> other ingredients for 5-10 mins. Fill pork casings and twist SJ> into 150mm lengths. SJ> ************* SJ> MONASTERY HERBAL SAUSAGE SJ> 400 gms lean pork SJ> 400 gms lean beef SJ> 200 gms green pork back fat or fatty pork belly without skin SJ> 20 gms salt SJ> 2 level tsps finely ground white pepper SJ> 1 tsp thyme SJ> 1 tsp marjoram SJ> 5 pieces pimento SJ> 1 piece finely ground cinnamon SJ> Mince pork, beef and fat through 8mm disc. Mix herbs and spices SJ> and sprinkle over meat mass and mix all together by hand for SJ> 5-10 mins. Fit funnel to mixer and fill pork casings. Twist SJ> into length of choice. ****************** I sorry but I'm lost 2 the realivance 2 this echo? Why did it end up here? Daniel --- Msgedsq 2.2e * Origin: "Don't knock 386's running at 7Mhz" Stale Castle BBS (3:640/531.20) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEPHEN PRICE Number: 10791 To: DON PUGH Date: 12/30/93 9:55p Subj: Comment from Stephen Price Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Don, Just having a bit of a browse... I was wondering what version of the AMINET cd you have... I have on load the June '93 AMINET CD, and it's very good. Also, I have a bunch of Fred Fish CD's (the Hypermedia ones, that I had troubles with, if you remember me...) I was wondering if you buy used CD's? Doesn't matter if you don't, I have been thinkin gof advertising, but havn't yet. Hypermedia have forgotten me again. I managed to get the latest CD's out of them 6 months ago, and they have just sent me the latest "UPGRADE NOW!!" notices.. <sigh> Fred Fish is now putting his PD library out on CD. If you are interested in getting them direct from Fred Fish, his address is: Fred Fish 1835 East Belmont Drive Tempe, AZ, 85284 USA He'll be producing a "1000 disk CD", a monthly and a quarterly CD, each for $19.95US (not bad, eh?) plus $5 postage & handling. I'll probably odred direct, but I thought you might like his details, seeing you are the CD BBS in town. :-) Regards, Stephen Price (AmigaLynk Sysop) --- msgedsq 2.2b * Origin: CD_ROM SUPPORT BBS,(3:690/750) Perth, 10Gb Files (3:690/750) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DANIEL TSUI Number: 10792 To: TED HARPER Date: 12/29/93 8:34a Subj: CDROM echo In Aust Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > There is NO cost-recovery system for Fidonet echomail in > Australia. We sysops do not pay into any "slush fund" for mail > importation or movement. Those that move large volumes of mail > around the country do so out of their own pocket, or through > some private sponsorship scheme they may have with their > company. Under normal circumstances, to be a node in net 640 fidonet you must pay something like $7 or so a month. Whatever the figure, there is a fee. daniel --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Daniel's Domain * Brisbane, OZ * (3:640/297.10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KIRKBY Number: 10793 To: STEVE MANN Date: 01/02/94 9:23a Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KM> I am also assuming this new CDROM echo link (Aust./US) is KM> bi-directional otherwise I'm speaking to myself. KM> KM> Cheers, Steve. KM> --- msgedsq 2.2b KM> * Origin: ENCOM Support - 3:711/440 (3:711/440) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ALEXANDER Number: 10794 To: KEVIN BRUNER Date: 01/02/94 1:39a Subj: Gabriel Knight CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * Replying to a message originally to All on 12-31-93 > Anyone played this one? Let me know your thoughts on it if you > have, it looks > kinda interesting. Plus, I liked KQ6, and this is Sierra's next > attempt > in the Multimedia market! Thanks. Happy New Year! > Well, a friend of mine got it and we tried it out. It had many bugs. I have KQ6CD and had no problems with it, but this one has some bugs. It uses DOS/4GW, and requires that you have no memory managers loaded. The game was ok, but it kept calling errors on my 386DX/40. We took it back today. --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: KFS Programming -HQ- ...Mail Only... (1:170/359) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: IRA WILSKER Number: 10795 To: JASON WEST Date: 01/01/94 7:27p Subj: Caches Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JW>Just wondeing if anybody out there uses a software cache >for there cd rom. I saw a program in the stores called >"Lightning" and was wondering how well it worked.. I tried >the CacheAll if it was totally worthless.. so if anybody >has seen one working well please let me know. I have the version of PCKWIK with the CDROM cache, and it seems to work fine. The only problem with the PCKWIK CDROM cache is that the order in which it is loaded is critical, and QEMM Optimize likes to load it in the "wrong" place. i.e., an address higher than the CDROM driver. ___ X QMPro 1.51 X Milk of Magnesia and Vodka - a Phillips Screwdriver --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: BackStage (1:3811/140) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BARRY MISHKIND Number: 10796 To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 01/01/94 6:12p Subj: Re: Bookshelf Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Do you remember a year or so ago, when there was a discussion >> on how to make earlier versions of MS Bookshelf (the WIndows >> 3.0 version) run properly in Windows 3.1? It seems to me it >> required the dumping of part of an .INI file or something and >> re-running setup. BO> Wish I could Barry, but I really don't remember the text of the BO> conversation. Thanks for the reply. Boris. The problem was at the changeover from Win 3.0 to Win 3.1, something in the setup for MSBfW didn't like the new arrangement. But it was relatively simple to bypass... BO> Anyway, you might want to reconcider the option as it may cause copyright BO> problems displaying such information on a BBS. I don't think it would ... it's just how to make a 3.0 app run in 3.1. BO> Sorry I couldn't be of any further help... No problem ... appreciate the response. Regards, Barry --- msged 2.07 * Origin: Barry's Point - Tucson, AZ - (1:300/11.3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL MOORE @ 903/5 Number: 10797 To: LOUIS DIGGS Date: 12/30/93 1:30p Subj: Games for sale Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LD>Mike, I'm very interested in giving you an offer on several of the LD>CD-ROM games you have for sale, but can you tell me if they are LD>compatable with my Macintosh? LD>Appreciate hearing from you. Hmmm, as far as I know, programs written for a PC are not compatable with a Macintosh, unless you have some special hardware or software. Perhaps some others in this conference can shed more light on the subject. If you are still interested, let me know. Thanks for the response. -MDM CmpQwk #UNREG UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- OverMail v0.82b # Origin: Cavern of Cyborg, Albuquerque, NM (505) 268-1669 (8:903/5) * Origin: Gateway System to/from RBBS-NET (RBBS-PC 1:10/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 10798 To: JASON WAGNER Date: 01/01/94 11:14p Subj: Re: PANASONIC 562 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JW> .... Isn't this thread in the January issue of Car Audio JW> And Electronics?!?!? JW> If not, PUT IT THERE! This is CD-ROM <Imagine that>. JW> Sorry to be so blunt, JW> but 20 pages of Car Audio chit chat is not too appealing in this echo! The thread was about a CD-ROM. Admittedly, it wandered about a little, and did indeed include references to car audio, bit it was *NOT* about car audio. I also had not noticed that the moderator's position had changed hands to you. Perhaps I should read the echo more often. Or perhaps you should let the moderator do his job and stomp on my messages if he sees fit. Les --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: GUI? Ptui!!! --- Last Chance Pt 4 (1:387/800.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE REED Number: 10799 To: DAVID SILVER Date: 01/01/94 9:43a Subj: Night Owl 10 Virus!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello David! Thursday December 23 1993 08:41, David Silver wrote to Dave Reed: DR>> What's your involvement with Richard, anyway? Are you lovers? DS> Thanks for helping me to decide who NOT to buy from - namely, you... Not a problem. I don't sell to the retail market. ;-) Later, Dave ... I have the heart of a liberal... in a jar on my desk! --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219+/46DK3 * Origin: The CrossRoads BBS * Ephrata, WA * (509)246-0548 (1:344/79) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN DESSENT Number: 10800 To: WEE YUNG Date: 01/01/94 9:47p Subj: Tripple speed CDROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey Wee, On Friday December 31 1993, Wee Yung wrote to All: WY> CD-ROM Toshiba 4101b SCSI D spin, 300k/s 320ms, 256k cache $269. Is this a typo? Is this really the internal 3401? Is that price correct? Brian --- Gecho 1.01+ * Origin: Brian's Board: Durham, NC @ v32bis/ZyXEL 19.2k (1:3641/202) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE ELLISON Number: 10801 To: CHAD REID Date: 12/31/93 4:13p Subj: Virus Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Chad, CR> I don't know what he said but I think he said that the virus's were CR> dangerous or something. I have the Butterfly virus and have fooled hehe, knowing him, he probably did say something to that effect! <g> I basically flamed him (like 5 times, hehe) because he was "ripping" on others for being wrong about the 2 viruses, and then "correcting" them with his totally incorrect virus "facts." CR> around with it and it's not to dangerous, as long as you don't have Yeah, both were basically harmless runtime file infectors, and perfectly safe to play around with. Neither one has any bomb or anything, and both are easily cleanable in the case of an infection. Just make sure you have a good AV program (e.g. Thunderbyte, F-Prot) around so things don't get out of hand. Lapse 366-A has one interesting characteristic, but other than that neither one is very exciting. CR> something in memory where it tries to hook itself into. I'm not sure CR> what memory location that is right now but I could look it up. This guy Actually, neither one is a resident virus but if you run 'em a few times in some cases fragments of the virus may be left in memory and it occasionally sets off the memory scanner in F-prot. The Butterfly variant is just a lame hack of the Butterfly virus done by a virus programmer who calls himself "Deathboy", so almost anything in Print about the old B-fly virus should hold true to the Crusades.Com variant on the NO disk. The main difference is that the new one infects COM and EXE files while the old one only goes after COMs. CR> has been saying a lot of stuff lately, most people just arn't paying CR> that much attention to him anymore when it comes to virus's. hehe, I'd be surprised if they listened to his advice on -anything- after this virus incident! I know I won't! Luckily most of the people in here aren't as arrogant or egotistical as he is, though I imagine his opinion of himself has decreased here in the last couple of weeks. I haven't seen a whole lot of posts from ol' Benjamin here lately, maybe he finally figured out why everyone was flaming him! Happy New Year! Dave --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Outland BBS (1:382/59) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK POLANSKY Number: 10802 To: DAVID WAGNER Date: 01/02/94 11:46a Subj: Dell Sound Blaster CDROMs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No THe Dell FActoty outlet store located in Austin, TX has the Sound Blaster CD ROM drives for $99.00. I bought the cables at Altex in Austin, the power being a standard 40 pin IDE andthe audio, a custom 4 pin that had to be ordered through Altex for $12.50. I got the drivers off the Creative Labs BBS that come compressed with full installation instructions for installation. Also you will need to buy a CD caddy that cost about $ 6.95. All in all it was an ok deal for a single speed CD ROM. If your interrested call Dell FActory outlet at 512-339-5656. (ask them for their toll free number) --- WM v3.10/92-0288 * Origin: *Enterprise BBS* Austin, Tx. 1-512-453-5079 (1:382/81) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON FLETCHER Number: 10803 To: DAVID SILVER Date: 12/31/93 12:31p Subj: KODAK ON A 1X??? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DS>Hi Gordon, DS>Tuesday December 21 1993 11:05, Gordon Fletcher wrote to David Silver: DS> GF> David here's the info: Lazerquick > GF> 2959 SW Cedar Hills Blvd. > GF> Beaverton, OR 97005 David, I just noticed your message came through Heidelberg. Ah Heidelberg! What fond memories! In August 1945, I was there on detached duty with SHAEF. Every evening was spent in the Molkekur Club on the Schlossberg overlooking the Nekar. I'm looking at one of their ashtrays, that I appropriated as a souvenir, to check the spelling. Is the club still there? Are you in Heidelberg itself or nearby? It's New Years Eve now. I wish you a happy and prosperous New Year! Fletch. --- ■ OLX 1.51 ■ ftmg --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: C.F.O.N.J. TBBS 2.2M - All HST 16.8/V.32B 908-486-2956 (1:107/932) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CLIFF MEDINA Number: 10804 To: JOE RINEHART Date: 01/01/94 10:46p Subj: !FREE CD CATALOG! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JR>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!************* JR>For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog... JR>If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us. JR>We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request. JR>CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available) JR> Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org JR> FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176 JR>Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc. Voice: (216) 296-9831 - 24 hours JR>P.O. Box 27 Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244 JR>Kent, Ohio 44240-0001 >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<< JR>--- MsgToss 2.0c JR> * Origin: Home of config.sys, Inc.-Discount CD's-Kent, Oh (1:157/479) JR> Please send a catolog to...... Cliff Medina 1275 Rock Ave KK5 No. Plfd. NJ 07060-3561 --- ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ If this were an actual tagline, it would be funny. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: MicroFone 14 Gigs 16 Lines V.32b 908-494-8666 (1:107/331) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CLIFF MEDINA Number: 10805 To: RICHARD MONTOYA Date: 01/01/94 10:46p Subj: SBLASTER/CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RM>I was reading in the Sound Blaster manual that it can be used as an RM>interface for a CD-ROM. Apparently some special instructions and/or RM>hardware are needed as I could not get it to work. The CD-ROM drive is RM>an older Mitsumi and came with its own card. It worked reasonably well RM>but I would like to eliminate one card from my computer just in case I RM>ever need the extra slot. Does anyone out there have any experience with RM>this subject. If so, any help would be appriciated on my part. The bord RM>is a Sound Blaster Pro. Thanks. RM>--- GEcho 1.00 RM> * Origin: Health Professions *ZyXEL* (915) 590-9798 (1:381/61) RM> If You call creative labs they will tell you that the scsi port is designed for a panosonic drive, I believe the CDR-563, which means that the port is proprietary and you are risking a disaster to your drive or SBlaster!!! --- ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: MicroFone 14 Gigs 16 Lines V.32b 908-494-8666 (1:107/331) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE WONG Number: 10806 To: ALL Date: 01/01/94 12:00a Subj: Cd-Rom Disk For Sale Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Brand new CD-ROM disk for sale: Mixed up Mother Goose $19.50 Loom (by Lucus Arts) $15.75 Arthur's Teacher Troubles $21.00 The Adventure of Willy Beamish $15.40 Carmen San Diego Deluxe $22.50 Maya clinic Family Health (interactive) $21.00 Animals, The San Diego Zoo $19.50 $2.90 shipping. Reply here * OLX 2.1 TD * GO SPEED RACER GO, SAID TRIXIE --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Sea East PC Exchange (1:343/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE BROWN Number: 10807 To: JOE SITKO Date: 01/01/94 3:28p Subj: Rebel Assualt Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JS>I suspect the joystick IS working properly. The response and feel of JS>Rebel Assault is quite different than, say, X-Wing. It takes a while I've found that it's much smoother with the mouse disabled. * WaveRdr 1.01 # 101 * --- WM v2.05/91-0207 * Origin: The Byte Exchange, HST DS/16.8 504-735-0136 (1:390/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE Number: 10808 To: CHAD REID Date: 01/02/94 12:08a Subj: Re: Police Quest Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Chad Reid@1:207/703.0 meinte am 29.12.93 zum Thema "Police Quest": CR>LW>Anyone know when Police Quest IV for CD-ROM is coming out?? CR> CR>LW>Lane Weiss CR> CR>It will be out in January, I believe towards the middle of January. I CR>already have the disk version and it's a great game, I'm already stuck, CR>beating two other Police Quest series I though I new it all, after three CR>hours I'm lost. I'm stuck too, you could probably help me. I've got 91points and don't know what to do next. How can I give the report of the dead kid, to his parents since I don't know where they live. I can't take the munition over at the police academy, what do I have to do, pearhaps you could fill me in ? But you're right, a great game it is ! Bye Chris --- CrossPoint v2.92 * Origin: How is my writing : Call 1-800-EAT-SHIT (2:242/401.10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE Number: 10809 To: ALLE Date: 01/02/94 12:11a Subj: Movie Select by Paramount ? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hallo Leute ! Can someone fill me in , on how goot Movie Select by Paramount is ? Does it run under Windows or DOS ? What are the features ? How is it compared to Microsoft Cinemania ? How much space is occupied on the CD ? How much does it cost ? I live here in Germany , and have never ever heard of that CD, so please could you give me a full run-down on the programm ! thanx in advance Bye Chris --- CrossPoint v2.92 * Origin: How is my writing : Call 1-800-EAT-SHIT (2:242/401.10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PHIL TREVORROW Number: 10810 To: JERRY MURPHY Date: 12/31/93 8:09p Subj: Virus Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JM>Obviously, you pick and glance at only a very few of the messages posted JM>here. Or perhaps your system only receives a small portion of those JM>available. This message is a direct attempt to get your attention, and JM>to cause you to read the following: Well, I seem to not be the only one spreading rumors then as quite a few people also say those 3 files are infected. I could care less what you think. When I see 10 or more different people all saying the same thing then it lends me to believe there might be some truth to it. This conversation is really getting nowhere. The bottom line is, whether there are 2, 3, 4, or a dozen, the CD is infected. I don't own it nor do I ever plan to own it. If you like it, more power to you. Don't try to convince me it's a good disk because in my eyes, a virus infected CD is not good. In your eyes, it obviously is. --- Squish v1.00 * Origin: ■ LinkUSA ■ Gateway BBS ■ (508)772-4236 ■ (1:322/736) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PHIL TREVORROW Number: 10811 To: GARY HUFF Date: 12/31/93 8:14p Subj: Re: panasonic 562 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GH> No AC current is AC unless it has a return path. Thus, if you want to GH>define it as such, then the 115 volts in your household electrical GH>sockets is not AC until you plug something in. That's arguing GH>semantics, and I think you understand that. Audio that is not AC is GH>not audio at all... it's nothing. Once it becomes audio, then quite GH>obviously it has a return path... it can't be audio without one, and at GH>that point it is simultaneously AC. .... Unless you are somehow GH>insinuating that audio can exist in a spiritual sense? Well, let me say thay I am an Electronics Technician. I've been one since 1978. I've worked on everything from Radar to computers. What you are saying is bizarre. Yes, Audio is heard. When we hear audio, we are hearing just that. We don't hear AC. If I walk up to you and say hello, that's audio. That's not AC. When you talk audio spectrum, you are not correct. When you talk electronics, you are correct. --- Squish v1.00 * Origin: ■ LinkUSA ■ Gateway BBS ■ (508)772-4236 ■ (1:322/736) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PHIL TREVORROW Number: 10812 To: BENJAMIN ORTIZ Date: 12/31/93 8:18p Subj: Re: virus Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I was just passing the info on what several other people said. I myself don't have the CD. It could be you are correct and there is no virus in that file at all. I am just relaying the information I saw in several other messages. --- Squish v1.00 * Origin: ■ LinkUSA ■ Gateway BBS ■ (508)772-4236 ■ (1:322/736) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLFF Number: 10813 To: GEORGE VAISEY Date: 12/31/93 5:00p Subj: ENCYCLOPEDIA Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Quoting: George Vaisey (12-29-93 10:58) To: Diane Pencil Subj: ENCYCLOPEDIA > I think World Book puts out a pretty good CD, I would go with > them. They are the best Encyclopedia company around. GV> If I might jump in on this conversation..... I just purchased GV> MICROSOFT ENCARTA for $87.00 TOTAL! It is the best on that I GV> have seen, built in movies, animation, sound clips, AND an GV> atlas. If you are interested I got it at EGGHEADS. Have a nice GV> day.. Hi George! What makes everybody's personal choice the best? I don't get it? They all have movies, animation, sound clips, and many even have an atlas. --- PPoint 1.74 * Origin: A Professional (Windy City) Point System (1:115/769.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK PEDLEY Number: 10814 To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 01/02/94 12:17p Subj: Lantastic & cd-rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LR> This will indeed work, but from personal experience, I know LR>that it is slow and will not work with many programs, such as LR>Grolier's and Microsoft Bookshelf, unless you purchase the LR>network versions of those softwares (MUCHO diniero!). However, LR>there is a shareware solution on the Lantastic BBS itself that LR>works much better, called CD-SHARE.EXE. I find this an LR>excellent DOS based LAN solution. What does CD-SHARE offer that Lantastic by itself won't do? I have version 4.1 BTW, is this a 5.0-specific utility? Thanks for the info. Rick * DeLuxe2 1.26b #9691 * --- InterPCB 1.52 * Origin: CrossRoads * Kingston, Ont. Canada (1:249/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK PEDLEY Number: 10815 To: DON WEIR Date: 01/02/94 12:17p Subj: A hard year Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SM> CD FAILED. We have been trying to get this cd for SM> some time. DW>Anything coming up on Bach? Yes, but they're Bach-ordered, urk, urk, urk :) Rick * DeLuxe2 1.26b #9691 * --- InterPCB 1.52 * Origin: CrossRoads * Kingston, Ont. Canada (1:249/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK PENTOJA Number: 10816 To: DONNIE RAYNOR Date: 12/31/93 4:08a Subj: Re: OMNI CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Re: OMNI CD * 29 Dec 93 03:52:00 * FROM: Donnie Raynor DR> Brian Eckblad wrote * DR> ********************************* DR> ***I have a Omni CD-ROM, I can not get it to load the driver MSCDEX DR> "or ***something like that" When I try to load the driver is says NOT DR> ENOUGH ***DRIVE LETTERS AVAILABLE. Well I can not get in touch with DR> Creative ***Labs Tech Support and their BBS does not answer. I have my DR> HDD ***sectioned in three parts C: D: and E: I am trying to get the CD DR> ROM to ***be Drive F:. I have set up MSCDEX like this MSCDEK "PATH" DR> /d:MSCD001 ***/L:f etc I ahve tried many different combinations. It is DR> driving me ***nuts. I have a SBPRO card and the CD is hooked to it. I DR> think it is ***installed properly because SBCD.sys reconizes it during DR> boot up. Well ***HELP! HELP! DR> ***Thanks DR> *** DR> ********************************* DR> Brian you will have to use the lastdrive command in your config.sys DR> file. Just look in your DOS manual and it will explain. LASTDRIVE=F DR> Whoop!...There it is. Try this also. MSCDEX /d:MSCD00? Where "?" is the number of HARDDRIVELETTERS + 1. In your case /d: MSCD004 /L:230 Mine is setup as the following MSCDEX /d:MSCD001 /L:230 The address for a 230h. Although I have a Sound Blaster 16ASP. Anyways... I'm hoping anything helps. --- Blue Wave/TG v2.12 [NR] * Origin: The OtherWhen BBS (1:203/601.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK PENTOJA Number: 10817 To: MARTIN CLEAVER Date: 12/31/93 4:11a Subj: Re: CD-I Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CD-I * 27 Dec 93 09:29:08 * FROM: Martin Cleaver MC> Hi All, MC> I stuck a CD-I disk in my CD-ROM drive recently and it was a readable MC> DOS disk. Next question: Is there any CD-I emulation available for MC> CD-ROM drives? MC> Bye, Martin. Not likely, processors for both IBM and Panasonics (is it them?) CD-I are diffrent in all likely respects. Therefore instructions would be diffrent for each processor. You would not only have to write a program to read the files correctly but build a adaptor board to address the correct instructions. Anyway, spend the $400 and you can get the real deal. --- Blue Wave/TG v2.12 [NR] * Origin: The OtherWhen BBS (1:203/601.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK PENTOJA Number: 10818 To: WIN TRAFTON Date: 12/31/93 4:18a Subj: Re: AT bus, SCSI, and the ProAudio Spectrum Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No AT bus, SCSI, and the ProAudio Spectrum * 27 Dec 93 23:38:36 * FROM: Win Trafton WT> Could someone please fill me in on how I can best utilize my ProAudio WT> Spectrum 16 as far as connecting a CD_ CD_ROM Drive to it. Someone WT> tried to sell me a a Mitsumi drive saying it is a SCSI drive but from WT> what I have been reading, it seems that it may be an AT bus drive WT> without the ability to piggy back more SCSI devices in the future. My WT> ProAudio manual says that I can get a SCSI cable driver kit to connect WT> a CD_ROM drive up to it without a separate interface card. Does this WT> all make sense and what should I do? My gut feel is to by a bare WT> drive and get the cable kit from Mediavision as they suggest. Is this WT> the right thing to do or am I headed down the wrong path. All I want WT> is to be able to play the current CD_ROM software and prepare myself WT> for full motion video, photo CD, and whatever else comes along in the WT> near future. Please shed some light on this or I'm afraid I'll end up WT> with something that won't take advantage of what I currently have or WT> limit me in the future. I'll be brief. All CD-ROM drives require a SCSI interface. Whether you can find it on a sound card (i.e. Sound Blaster 16ASP, SB Pro or Pro Audio 16... etc they'll advertise on box, SCSI for CD-ROM or SCSI-2..) If you opt against purchasing a new card with a SCSI interface, then you'll need to purchase a $15 card that connects your CD-ROM to the motherboard. To meet MPC 1 standards, the CD-ROM must have 150k/sec transfer rate and be around a 450ms access rate. I believe. MPC 2 is 150k/sec 350ms whatever... anyways, Kodak Photo-Session compatible for Photo-CD is nice Full motion video is depending on the CD-ROM software you get and you should get a CD-ROM capable of 300kb/sec transfer at MPC 2 standards.. Remember, sometimes MPC 2 standards recommend a 486-25, doublespd CD-ROM, 4 megs of Ram, SVGA monitor... well that's just the minimum for some CD-ROM discs. You could get buy with a 386-?? 2 megs etc.. but you'll be limited. --- Blue Wave/TG v2.12 [NR] * Origin: The OtherWhen BBS (1:203/601.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANDY THOMAS Number: 10819 To: ROBIN JACKSON Date: 01/01/94 12:28p Subj: Mediavision cd-rom bundl Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RJ> I am happy with my Fusion Double CD kit, including the NEC RJ> drive. Thanks for the input.... :> -Andy In San Francisco, CA on 01/01/94 @ 11:07 === * RM 1.2 00593 * Drink Evian? Are you naive? * The PC GFX Exchange * San Francisco, CA * (1:125/217) --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: The PC GFX Exchange * San Francisco, CA * (1:125/217) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANDY THOMAS Number: 10820 To: RICK POTTS Date: 01/01/94 12:28p Subj: Mediavision cd-rom bundl Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RP> Depending on what sort of prices you're seeing in your part RP> of the country, the Reveal or Creative Labs kits (that RP> include the Panasonic drives) are probably a better deal RP> than the ones that include the Philips drive. RP> Just my opinion. <g> And thank you for it! (Sorry about the late reply :>) -Andy In San Francisco, CA on 01/01/94 @ 11:07 === * RM 1.2 00593 * Survival Tip #37 - Never play leap frog with a unicorn * The PC GFX Exchange * San Francisco, CA * (1:125/217) --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: The PC GFX Exchange * San Francisco, CA * (1:125/217) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PETE MCDONOUGH Number: 10821 To: ALL Date: 01/02/94 7:22a Subj: New CD-ROM? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi All! What should I lOOk for in a new (first time) CD-ROM for my computer? I heard about a double (spin?) and a faster one coming out. All tips appreciated! Thanks! Pete ... Be glad you don't get all the government you pay for. --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 * Origin: The Microline OS/2 BBS Sacramento, CA 916-641-6930 (1:203/529) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE MACHULIS Number: 10822 To: JEFF KEY Date: 12/31/93 1:21p Subj: Re: Trouble... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jeff Key wrote ╒═══════════════════════════════╕ ▐▒░How much extended memory do you have total? You're probably running ▐▒░out of TOTAL memory, not conventional.. ╘═══════════════════════════════╛ I fixed it, I just didn't have Video for Windows installed... --- ■ TLX v3.30 ■ ╠════════════════TAGLINE═EXTENDER════════════════╣ --- D'Bridge/GEcho/RA * Origin: ] The Altered Reality - iNsaNiTY [ (1:3815/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE MACHULIS Number: 10823 To: KEITH RITCHIE Date: 12/31/93 1:27p Subj: Re: Cd rom's data capacity Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Keith Ritchie wrote ╒═══════════════════════════════╕ ▓░▌I just purchased a Reveal multimedia upgrade kit that included a ▓░▌double speed CD rom made by Matsushita. My qusetion is the specs say ▓░▌that it has a data capacity of 540MB...won't this make CD's like 7th ▓░▌guest or large shareware CD's with greater than 600MB worthless. After ▓░▌a half hour on hold with Reveal's technical assistance they stated ▓░▌that it would run all CD's and that the 540MB was a "minimum #". ▓░▌Before I braek the seal on the packages would someone give me some ▓░▌input as to whether this is true or am I being fed a line. Your help ▓░▌will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Keith ╘═══════════════════════════════╛ There are 2 modes on a CD-ROM drive (atleast on mine). One for 540meg and one for 600. The one for 600 is faster, and they change automatically. I think this is what happened, and they forgot to put it in the manual. --- ■ TLX v3.30 ■ I am Yogi Bear's Greatest Fan! --- D'Bridge/GEcho/RA * Origin: ] The Altered Reality - iNsaNiTY [ (1:3815/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE MACHULIS Number: 10824 To: SCOTT TEED Date: 12/31/93 1:34p Subj: Re: Journeyman Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Scott Teed wrote ╒═══════════════════════════════╕ ▐▄▒Has anybody got a copy of The Journeyman running in OS/2 out there. ▐▄▒ ╘═══════════════════════════════╛ Hi... I can't answer your question on OS/2 (I'm running Windoze). But I can tell you a bit about the game. You have just bought a copy of the easiest game on the face of the earth. I finished it in 14 hours flat. It has great graphics and sound, but the plot is not to great. Right now I'm writeing a walkthrough for it, so if you have any questions, just ask. --- ■ TLX v3.30 ■ 59 Call me Ishmael. I won't ANSWER, but.. --- D'Bridge/GEcho/RA * Origin: ] The Altered Reality - iNsaNiTY [ (1:3815/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE MACHULIS Number: 10825 To: JOHN ULLMER Date: 12/31/93 1:36p Subj: Re: Lots 'O Questions! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Ullmer wrote ╒═══════════════════════════════╕ ▌▒█All the games I have require at least 10 Meg. on the HD. Two ▌▒█of them take close to 20 meg. The only CD I ever saw that ▌▒█didn't require files on the HD was a PC-Sig shareware disk I ▌▒█got a few years back. ╘═══════════════════════════════╛ A few games I've played, like The Journeyman Project and Sherlock Homes, just have save files on the HD. They are not that big either. --- ■ TLX v3.30 ■ Guns don't kill. Fast-moving projectiles do. --- D'Bridge/GEcho/RA * Origin: ] The Altered Reality - iNsaNiTY [ (1:3815/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE MACHULIS Number: 10826 To: SEAN SINICO Date: 12/31/93 1:42p Subj: Re: The Magic Death9 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Sean Sinico wrote ╒═══════════════════════════════╕ ▓▌▓Hello everyone, ▓▌▓I'm wondering if anyone out that has heard of a CD-ROM game called the ▓▌▓magic death? ▓▌▓ ▓▌▓From what I've seen you have 6 hours to solve a murder mystery. I am ▓▌▓looking for a copy of this game. ╘═══════════════════════════════╛ Sounds alot like WHO KILLED SAM RUPERT.... I think it's on Joe Rinehart's CD-LIST though. Oh. Here it is... Magic Death, Macintosh, $39.14 Only lists it as a Mac game..... --- ■ TLX v3.30 ■ "He's dead Dave, everyone's dead, everyone is dead Dave!" --- D'Bridge/GEcho/RA * Origin: ] The Altered Reality - iNsaNiTY [ (1:3815/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE MACHULIS Number: 10827 To: LANCE HOLLON Date: 01/02/94 1:34p Subj: Re: Privateer Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Lance Hollon wrote ╒═══════════════════════════════╕ ▐▒▄Okay, I know this is the wrong area, but don't kill me. (and if you ▐▒▄do, answer the question first. :) I've got WC Privateer, But I was ▐▒▄wondering if anyone has some cheats out there? If so, could you give me ▐▒▄the number of a BBS that has them? (and maybe a short desc. of the ▐▒▄cheat) I'm mainly looking for something to add credits to saved games, ▐▒▄give invulnerability without voiding the mission, etc... I've looked on ▐▒▄all the BBSs in my area but couldn't find any. Thank you for your help. ╘═══════════════════════════════╛ Try Bat CAve BBS. 918-333-6905. There are about 4 cheats there.... Now, so this won't be off topic.. My birthda yis coming up soon, and I'm looking for a good CD-ROM to ask for. Any ideas? --- ■ TLX v3.30 ■ Daddy, what's that weird-looking man doing over there? --- D'Bridge/GEcho/RA * Origin: ] The Altered Reality - iNsaNiTY [ (1:3815/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PIOTR ADAMIAK Number: 10828 To: JOE RINEHART Date: 12/30/93 11:26p Subj: !free Cd catalog! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi! > *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories > CATALOG!************* Saw your Ad here :) Please send me a copy of the catalogue to the following address: Piotr Adamiak Sewastopolska 4/9 02-758 Warsaw, POLAND Please include bulk discounts and wholesale prices information as well if that is possible with some info about the methods/costs of transportation :))))))))) Best regards, `Crazy Madness' --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: ICYE BBS - Fifty-three more things to do in Zero Gravity (2:480/45) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PIOTR ADAMIAK Number: 10829 To: GEORGE VAISEY Date: 12/30/93 11:31p Subj: Battle Chess For Sale Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi! I would like a copy of your CD catalogue if that is possible :) My address is: Piotr Adamiak Sewastopolska 4/9 02-758 Warsaw, POLAND Thanks in advance :))))) Best regards, `Crazy Madness' --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: ICYE BBS - Fifty-three more things to do in Zero Gravity (2:480/45) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PIOTR ADAMIAK Number: 10830 To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 12/30/93 11:50p Subj: CDROM Systems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi! > **************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E Do you have a catalogue/price list with shipping costs/bulk discounts ? :) My address is: Piotr Adamiak Sewastopolska 4/9 02-758 Warsaw, POLAND Best regards, `Crazy Madness' --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: ICYE BBS - Hey! I am a floating point co-processor! (2:480/45) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 10831 To: JULIEN PIERRE Date: 12/26/93 8:53p Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JP>No, that's not so bizarre in fact; Li'll bbs is known for being a mailgate a JP>is transporting *lots* of mail for other BBSes interested (and then the syso JP>have to pay, of course). But the mail often doesn't stay on lill's (or TLV's JP>Bubulle's) hard disk, because it's much too large. It just goes to the other JP>BBSes (like ChaOS/2) and that's it. JP>That was a bit of Fidonet technogoly. I suspect there will be a new game in town once Planet Connect starts BBS network service to Europe (which is expected soon). Essentially _all_ of FIDO, Intelec, Ilink, etc. etc (about 15-20 networks) will be available by satellite downlink, at a quite reasonable cost (like 200FF/month, once you buy the equipment for about 4-5KF). This is going to eliminate (or at least greatly reduce) these monopolies and power plays. What's more, it will be the first really interesting alternative (price/timeliness/capacity) to CD-ROM for geographic-scale mass software distribution. JP>As for PCBoard/Wildcat, why do you insist on them ? My BBS runs Maximus, and JP>works (well, I haven't redisigned the menus fully , but for english-speaking JP>people like us, that's ok). If you choose the 'french' option, you get in fa JP>a bizarre mixture of french and english menus ;-(( Don't do that. I use PCBoard and Wildcat BBSes exclusively because of their compatibility with Robocomm... I simply don't have enough time to do online BBSing. And I don't really want to have to switch to Intellicom. JP>Why not try it ? It's not so far from Paris, ya know ! You're welcome on JP>ChaOS/2, Gordon. I appreciate the welcome! At the moment, my time is (more than) fully consumed trying to keep up with the BBSes I already frequent, combined with the projects I have for the company I work for. And I'm planning on putting up a BBS of my own here sometime soon. It will be a way for people without access to a CD-ROM drive (yet?) to be able to download from a large shareware software collection. JP>And despite of its name, my BBS is not entirely devoted to JP>OS/2 : you can find one hundred conferences here; and if I try to get all JP>possible OS/2 conferences; there are all other standard Fidonet echoes too. JP>even some Usenet ones very soon ...! It would be interesting if somebody would make a combined list of which BBSes have which CD-ROM software collections online for download, and which BBSes carry which conferences. There's not a lot of reason why all sysops ought to put the same CD-ROMs online. JP>I'm not sure you have access to netmail. Is it okay for me to route the mess JP>to Gordon Peterson at 2:320/203 (if yes, reply by netmail to 2:320/215) ? If I don't have access to Fido netmail at the moment, but supposedly you can send me Internet mail via gordon.peterson@Top50.cld9.com. I've not received any such mail yet, so I'm not sure it works... but I believe that that's the right address. I used to have netmail access via Li'll, before the sysop there decided to break his access promises to me. :-(( And of course, there's always the normal telephone (remember, Alexander Graham Bell invented it a long time ago... and it still works!) (1) 47.07.66.48. * SLMR 2.1 * --- WM v2.07/92-0654 * Origin: CAD Connection - Montesson, FR 33 (1) 39-52-98-54 (2:320/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 10832 To: BRYAN ANSLOW Date: 12/26/93 9:29p Subj: Corel Problems???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BA>I recently ordered a CD_ROM Bundle which, amongst other things, was to BA>have included the; BA>"Corel Professional Photo-CD Sampler with Corel CD Audio Player and BA>Corel Photo CD Access Software" BA>It seems that there is some legal bunk in the U.S. over this CD BA>because it includes some pictures of women in Swim Suits which has BA>been called "degrading" and therefore Corel have apparently scrapped BA>the CD. They offered to send me the "Kodak Photo CD Access" instead. I have a copy of the disc in question... Obviously, some people find it "degrading" to women to show them in an attractive light. Maybe the solution is to simply ban the sale of any photos of attractive women, along with the makeup, lotions, fashions and whatever that allow them to thus "debase" themselves for the sleazy pleasure of the male animal. ;-)) What about it?? Anyone here that would be interested in purchasing a CD-ROM crammed full of photos of ugly women!? * SLMR 2.1 * --- WM v2.07/92-0654 * Origin: CAD Connection - Montesson, FR 33 (1) 39-52-98-54 (2:320/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 10833 To: MAX GREEN Date: 12/27/93 12:39a Subj: cheap imitations Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MG> NOT TRUE, in your case or by any other clone maker. The cards may MG> emulate (Webster: "strive to equal, by imitating - imitate, esp. in MG> excellence") the genuine Soundblaster. So I suppose you plug your sound board into a "genuine", "non imitation" true-blue IBM personal computer, Max? (You remember IBM? The company that once upon a time abandoned their millions of ISA-bus customers in their hopes of creating an "all new" and heavily-patented clone-proof MCA bus architecture?) MG> If these other cards were so MG> good wouldn't they have their own standards established? Not necessarily. Not everyone is after name recognition, or patent protection of a monopoly position, or to set "yet another standard". Some companies are happy to follow existing de facto standards (sure wish MORE companies were, here), happy to simply provide their customers with standard, easily-spare-replaceable equipment at better prices. Personally, I think that's a laudable approach. MG> Granted MG> there may be a feature or two which is better that the Soundblaster MG> however, for overall compatibility, reliability, support and easy of MG> use NO ONE can beat the Soundblaster. You didn't mention the prize-winning ( :-) ) parrot software that the "genuine" Soundblaster came with. My Master Boomer, on the other hand, came with a really fine program called Trax, which is actually USABLE for something. :-) And I've never found ANYTHING which the SoundBlaster does better (or even differently) than the Master Boomer does. Plus, I'm getting Master Boomer boards for $37 each. Meanshile, while you're talking about standards, don't you think it pretty dumb for the SoundBlaster people to come out with a proprietary, non-standard way to hook a CD-ROM drive to their sound card? One that later probably won't hook to any other board ever made? MG> FYI, I am just an end user but MG> have had 4 different brands installed in my system and I have came MG> back to the Soundblaster each time. So to all of you who think that MG> you are going to save a buck or two - good luck. Is it really only "a buck or two"? I take it that means you get genuine SoundBlasters for less than $40? I think it's YOU to whom I'm going to wish the good luck, Max. * SLMR 2.1 * --- WM v2.07/92-0654 * Origin: CAD Connection - Montesson, FR 33 (1) 39-52-98-54 (2:320/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 10834 To: HOWARD RICE Date: 12/27/93 12:45a Subj: Mitshumi Dual & sound Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No HR>What is the best sound card to use with a Mitsumi Dual speed? HR>Aztec's Pro16 does not support the dual speed and they claim they do HR>not intend to. The Mitsumi Dual Speed ought to work with ANY sound card (as long as you don't expect to replace the Mitsumi's interface board with some kind of proprietary sound-card interface thing). Why is it that so many people seem to be so hung up on hooking their CD-ROM drive DIRECTLY to their sound board, for heaven's sake??!! * SLMR 2.1 * --- WM v2.07/92-0654 * Origin: CAD Connection - Montesson, FR 33 (1) 39-52-98-54 (2:320/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JULIEN PIERRE Number: 10835 To: DAVE REED Date: 12/31/93 4:33p Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Dec 25 16:35, Dave Reed of 1:344/79 wrote: DR> Hello Julien! DR> Thursday December 23 1993 02:38, Julien Pierre wrote to DR> Gordon Peterson: JP>> + Origin: ChaOS/2 BBS near Paris, France - +33-1-30472762 JP>> (2:320/215) (2:320/215) DR> Many of us have done the same thing... you may want to DR> check your configuration and remove your node number from DR> the Origin line, as the software automatically puts it in. DR> As you can see, you have two of them. ;-) Yes, but I am using lots of different software ... MsgEdSq/2, GoldEd/2, Squish/2, Max/2... All have different ways of handling origin lines ... I think it's fixed now. Julien --- msgedsq/2 2.2b * Origin: ChaOS/2 BBS near Paris, France - +33-1-30472762 (2:320/215) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JULIEN PIERRE Number: 10836 To: HUGH CRAIG Date: 12/31/93 4:34p Subj: Re: Rebel Assault Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Dec 25 20:33, Hugh Craig of 1:106/2000 wrote: HC> I finally got it working fine here also. However when I HC> quit Rebel the screen goes blank. To get back to the WPS I HC> have to hit Cntl ESC. At the Task List Rebel Assault is HC> shown as active. Any attempts to kill the process fail. Of HC> course when I do a normal OS/2 shutdown that fails as well HC> as OS/2 can't kill the process. HC> Cntl Alt Del still works! HC> Have you seen similar symtoms on your end? Yes I did see it once .. Very strange. Sometimes the game works wonderfully for several hours. Sometimes it exits the VDM (at _any_ point of the game) with an "Invalid instruction" error ... (and as I have AUTOFAIL=ON, I don't even see the message : I return to the WPS automatically. What a surprise when you're fighting .. <grin>) Julien --- msgedsq/2 2.2b * Origin: ChaOS/2 BBS near Paris, France - +33-1-30472762 (2:320/215) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JULIEN PIERRE Number: 10837 To: KEVIN BRUNER Date: 01/01/94 5:21a Subj: Re: Rebel Assault Patch Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KB> Hmm... it seems to work no problems for me. 99% of the KB> lockups were on the Star Destroyer scene, and I can see now KB> the software looks like it's about to lockup (it pauses for KB> about a second) as I make another attack run at the side I KB> started on, but it keeps going. KB> JP>> ! Origin: ChaOS/2 BBS near Paris, France - +33-1-30472762 JP>> (2:320/215) KB> Wow, Paris! I had no idea this was an international echo! KB> Since you're in France, you might be able to help me... I KB> believe COKTEL VISION is a French company, and Sierra KB> distributes their games in the US... do you know if INCA CD KB> is any good? I'm listening to the soundtrack CD as I type, KB> and it's GREAT! Yes, I know about cocktel vision. I personally didn't like Inca (the floppy version) so I didn't buy the CD-ROM .. That's certainly a matter of taste, though, because they make quality games. (do you know gobliins ? I'm not sure Sierra sells it under the same name however) AFAIK there is an Inca II too (it was probably already released for Xmas) Julien --- msgedsq/2 2.2b * Origin: ChaOS/2 BBS near Paris, France - +33-1-30472762 (2:320/215) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARC EVENS Number: 10838 To: MASSIMO GENTILINI Date: 12/30/93 11:22a Subj: Rebel Assault Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Bonjour Massimo ! Massimo Gentilini wrote Saturday December 11 1993 à All : MG> I'm experiencing some problems with the Rebel Assault CdRom game. If you MG> enter game and use FALCON as a pass code to start level 4, after flying MG> some time around the imperial destroyer the game locks up. The keyboard MG> doesn't work and I need an Hard Reset to restart. I also have this problem. Sometimes it works very well sometimes it locks up. I have a 486/33, 8 Mb Ram, an SB Pro 2 Deluxe and Sony CDU31A CDROM MG> Does LucasFilm have some kind of BBS support site in the Usa to call and MG> see if some fix is available??? If you have some news, I hope that you'll warn me! MG> Besides this problem the first three stages are REALLY WONDERFUL, here we MG> have a game that is really at the top. I think so. It's very fun to fly in the canyon or in the asteroids field. Good Bye, Marc. --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Easypc: Lillois Belgium (2:291/712.122) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEAN SNYMAN Number: 10839 To: DONNA MC LAUGHLIN Date: 12/31/93 8:38a Subj: T7G Maze Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Donna! 26 Dec 93 23:46, Donna Mc Laughlin wrote to Stean Snyman: DML> The maze isn't as hard as it seems. In the room with the DML> bishop puzzle, there is a rug on the floor. When you look at the DML> rug, you will notice that it is the map to the maze. I took a DML> clear stencil and traced the rug, so that when I went into the DML> maze, I sort of knew where I was. One hint though, concentrate DML> on completing the right side of the maze only. That's where DML> you'll find the exit. Got it right, thanks.. BTW: The exit IS shown on that map, its just a little difficult to make out.. Have a look to right side of the in-door :) Now i'm stuck at the house fliiping picture, and the bottomless block falling well 123 stuff.. I think I know how.. Gotta try it again :) Adios Stean --- Gotcha v1.01 RT * Origin: Where Keyboards Cry, The Electro, CT, RSA (5:7102/114) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEAN SNYMAN Number: 10840 To: JASON WAGNER Date: 12/31/93 8:41a Subj: Lots 'O Questions! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jason! 27 Dec 93 16:30, Jason Wagner wrote to All: JW> on the HD (I know games might need to put save games and such JW> on...)??! Normally 20 meg is outragous.. The 7th Guest takes about 5 meg, Return to zork about 2 meg (or 42 meg if you wan't it real fast). My encyc takes about 500k, GWOTW takes 400k, atlas takes about 300-500k I think... Not too big if you think of all the data on the CD! Adios Stean --- Gotcha v1.01 RT * Origin: Where Keyboards Cry, The Electro, CT, RSA (5:7102/114) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CINDY GALLEGOS Number: 10841 To: MICHAEL ROBBELOTH Date: 01/01/94 1:42p Subj: Creative Labs Phone # Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Max, -> The number for Creative Labs BBS is (408) 428-6660. Supports spee -> up through 14.4k. Hello, The phone number for the Creative Labs Inc BBS is incorrect. They have moved to Oklahoma. The new number is 405-742-6660. The number for the Tech-Support has also changed. That number is 405-742-6622. Just a little info. They will not support an OEM product. I hope this information helps! Cindy --- GOMail v1.1 [DEMO] 01-19-94 * Origin: Origin Line Not Defined In GOEDIT (1:215/58) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 10842 To: VINCE SORENSEN Date: 01/02/94 11:03a Subj: GOOD SHAREWARE CDS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Vince Sorensen wrote in a message to Terry Blount: VS> It does run off the CD... just slower. The shell for Cream of the Crop runs directly off the cd and it does take 3 to 5 seconds to load the listings... but since they are loaded in memory there are no delays from then on. Searches are instant and there is no delay when you want to copy or uncompress a file to your hard drive. VW> Are the listings VS> on Cream of the Crop II single line? They are multi line. VS> What sort of size are they? I don't know if you are asking about the size of the descriptions or the size of the files? The disc contains 654 megs and almost 5,000 files. I haven't done the math to calculate the average file size. The main thing that is selling this disc is that the files are no older than April 93 and there is no wasted space with graphics, cartoons, fonts and pictures.... AND about 100 megs MORE than other disc that have files during this period. Call 205-824-2552 and pick it up for $29 + $5 for shipping and c.o.d. charges. Thanks Let us be glad and rejoice, for the marriage of the Lamb is come,(Rev.19:7) --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 10843 To: JAMES MARTIN Date: 01/02/94 2:01p Subj: CREAM OF THE CROP II Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No James Martin wrote in a message to Joe Rinehart: JM> All i can say is WOW>...!!! Talk about a GREAT, JM> AWSOME, OUTSTANDING... WHAT ELSE CAN I SAY ! JM> I run Remote Access 2.01 and the Ra_CREAM convertion JM> program is the BEST infact the ONLY one i've seen that JM> WORKS. I'm the guy who wrote that utility and in case you didn't know there are two minor bugs that you need to correct with your file base editor. First you need to go to the directory for the text editing files and change "Edit" to "Editor" that was a mistake in the control file. Second you need to create a new area and point it to the Business directory... then load the bbs listing in a text editor then block and chop it where the z's end and the A's pick up again. The Business file listing was appended to the bbs listing. Again this was caused by an error in the control file. Sorry for these two bugs. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY MORENO Number: 10844 To: JOE RINEHART Date: 12/29/93 3:54p Subj: Re: 1100+ CD Catalog Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Please send me a copy of your list. Johnny Moreno 535 N. San Gabriel Ave. #1 Azusa, CA 91702-2939 Thank You ■ CmpQwk #UNREG■ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: THE BAD DOG BBS (818) 332-0100 Covina, Ca (1:218/903) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY MORENO Number: 10845 To: JEREMY ROLLINGS Date: 12/29/93 3:54p Subj: Good Adventure CD's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Jeremy, I just read your post today, so I'm sure you have had a few sugguestions. I would recommend Day Of The Tentacle CD from LucasArts. I a cartoon-like adventure with complete charater talking and using the iMuse interface. Funny, too! And now the kicker, if it gets too hard, there's a hint book in the box. It's one the few CD I've seen that was actually worth the money as commerical games go. I would also recommend you stay away from games that use windows. These games are usaully ported from the Mac and are TOO slow. ■ CmpQwk #UNREG■ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: THE BAD DOG BBS (818) 332-0100 Covina, Ca (1:218/903) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY MORENO Number: 10846 To: CHRIS CONKLIN Date: 12/29/93 3:54p Subj: Re: Best Prices Around Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Chris, I would like a catalog please. Johnny Moreno 535 N. San Gabriel Ave. #1 Azusa, CA 91702-2939 Thank You ■ CmpQwk #UNREG■ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: THE BAD DOG BBS (818) 332-0100 Covina, Ca (1:218/903) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY MORENO Number: 10847 To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 12/29/93 3:54p Subj: CD Catalog Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Jim, Please send me a catalog, Johnny Moreno 535 N. San Gabriel Ave. #1 Azusa, CA 91702-2939 Thank You. ■ CmpQwk #UNREG■ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: THE BAD DOG BBS (818) 332-0100 Covina, Ca (1:218/903) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY HUFF Number: 10848 To: ED WELCH Date: 12/30/93 8:38a Subj: RE: TOSHIBA_VS PANASONIC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No EW> i've got a SB PRO and i'm thinking of getting the panasonic 2x for it EW> i've got a 486dx 33 4meg ram, 130 hd, svga 1meg, 64k cache EW> is this good enough to run he cr-rom? More than adequate, Ed. EW> should i upgrade my ram to 8megs, get another hd, upgrade my cache? Nah. What you've got is more than enough. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: Capitol City BBS (909)931-0533 HST14.4DS : (1:218/201.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY HUFF Number: 10849 To: MIKE MAZZOLA Date: 12/31/93 6:11p Subj: Re: Panasonic 562/AT Bus interface card Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MM> UPS picked up the AT bus card that had the 25(?) pin out on the back. MM> replacement is a 16bit with nothing on the backplane but a mono out RC MM> plug(?). Since I'm using it on a BBS I'd like to have the ability to MM> chain. Guess I'll try to find a card with the 40pin out on back. If the card you have is the same as mine, you don't need a 40 pin socket on the back of the card. You can daisy chain up to 4 drives via the 40-pin cable. That's how I've got 2 drives daisy chained now... I have them stacked in a tower case, and I made up a 40-pin cable with one 40-pin plug on one end (to plug into the card), and two 40-pin plugs on the other end of the cable, spaced about 3 or 4 inches apart (to plug into the backs of the drives). I have one drive set as device 0 and the next drive set as device 1. The single card and single software driver access both drives with ease. And, I could stack two more drives if I wished, in the same manner... but my tower case is full right now, and I'd have to try to find a taller tower with more available slots. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: Capitol City BBS (909)931-0533 HST14.4DS : (1:218/201.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY HUFF Number: 10850 To: TRANE FRANCKS Date: 12/31/93 6:12p Subj: Re: Good ShareWare CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting - Gary Huff to Trane Francks, 26 Dec 93 07:35 -=> Subject - Re: Good ShareWare CD TF> international shipping, do you know of anybody that is reputable? GH> wasn't ordering CD-ROMs back then. :-) Therefore, I don't have any GH> information on American dealers who are reliable when it comes to GH> international shipping. But it's no big deal to ship overseas... TF> Well, I know. I guess I'm just a bit paranoid, is all. I don't TF> know who is or isn't reliable period, and am just looking for a TF> little information to let me relax a little. ;-) Well, despite how we squabble about the Nightowl disk, Mike Shannon of Starvector has proven to be a very reliable dealer for me. I ordered the Pier 3 disk from him, and he shipped it no-nonsense in just a couple of days. Perhaps if he's reading this, he might accommodate you. When he tells you how lousy the Nightowl disk is, just tell him, "yeah, yeah... ship it anyway." :-) --- QM v1.00 * Origin: Capitol City BBS (909)931-0533 HST14.4DS : (1:218/201.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY HUFF Number: 10851 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 12/31/93 6:14p Subj: Re: Virus Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No GH>OK, I can live with that, and that's a more reasonable approach. GH>Incidentally, can you give me a recommendation? I currently have the GH>Nightowl 10 and the Pier 3 Cd's on-line. What would be a good third GH>one to add that wouldn't duplicate the existing two? Or would I be MS> Give Powerbox 2 a try. Only about a week old, with file dates as late MS> mid-November. 8% dupes to NO10, and 13% dupes to Pier 3. In stock at MS> if you're interested, or you can get release 1 and 2 together for $35. MS> Later, MS> .\\ike Sounds like what I'm looking for, Mike. It's New Year's Eve right now, and I'm sure you're not open, but I'll call you Monday. BTW, please read my previous message to Trane Francks, and see if you can help him. He lives in a suburb of Tokyo, and is looking for someone to ship a disk to him there. Can you accommodate him? --- QM v1.00 * Origin: Capitol City BBS (909)931-0533 HST14.4DS : (1:218/201.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HANK ANDERSON Number: 10852 To: BRIAN ECKBLAD Date: 01/02/94 1:07a Subj: OMNI CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BE> have a Omni CD-ROM, I can not get it to load the driver MSCDEX "or BE> something like that" When I try to load the driver is says NOT ENOUGH BE> DRIVE LETTERS AVAILABLE. Well I can not get in touch with Creative BE> Labs Tech Support and their BBS does not answer. I have my HDD BE> sectioned in three parts C: D: and E: I am trying to get the CD ROM to BE> be Drive F:. This is in your CONFIG.SYS file. By standard, DOS allows you to have 5 Drives (A&B (Floppys) C, D, & E (usually hard drives, or CD!). In this instance you have all 5 occupied (I'm assuming) and you need to tell DOS you want 1 more! Do the following with your favorite editor... edit CONFIG.SYS and type the following... LASTDRIVE=F <---or G or which ever you want! This should clear up the problem with MSCDEX and allow your CD ROM to run just fine! Hope this helps you out! Hank Anderson * OLX 2.2 * Message from - APS Software Solutions 13:13/0 - --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: FidoNet(tm) : The Pentagon 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE RINEHART Number: 10853 To: ALL Date: 01/02/94 6:40a Subj: !free Cd catalog! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!************* For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog... If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us. We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request. CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available) Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176 Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc. Voice: (216) 296-9831 - 24 hours P.O. Box 27 Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244 Kent, Ohio 44240-0001 >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<< --- MsgToss 2.0c * Origin: Home of config.sys, Inc.-Discount CD's-Kent, Oh (1:157/479) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE RINEHART Number: 10854 To: ALL Date: 01/02/94 6:40a Subj: Cd-rom Drives+ Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ********* Refurbished Hitachi Model 3600 CD-ROM DRIVES $130 ********* ********* Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $120 ********* ********* Refurbished SCSI NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $130 ********* These units are also available needing refurbished at 50% off! Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs! Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176 Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc. Voice: (216) 296-9831 - 24 hours P.O. Box 27 Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244 Kent, Ohio 44240-0001 >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<< --- MsgToss 2.0c * Origin: Home of config.sys, Inc.-Discount CD's-Kent, Oh (1:157/479) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE ELLISON Number: 10855 To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 01/02/94 6:42p Subj: Re: VIRUS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Doug, *** Doug Carpenter said this to Dave Ellison on 01-01-94 12:12 *** DC> Funny thing also, is SCAN is not the best choice in scanning for DC> viruses, as it only scans for viruses already in existance. One needs True, and -reputable- rumor has it that John Mcafee waits far too long to add new signatures for the new viruses. DC> something like Norton Antivirus that does this and also DC> scans for CRC changes, etc. CRC checking is an excellent feature, but Norton AV is one of the worst AV programs out there. Check out the following test. It's a test done monthly on anti-virus programs by a guy named Bill Lambdin. I've tested most of the AV programs (with 1100+ different viruses) and had almost the exact same results. (Reprinted without permission, of course ;) LAT 9312 December 16, 1993 +--------------------------+----------+---------+-----------+-----+ | SCANNER | COMMON | POLY- | ZOO |FLAGS| | | | MORPHIC | | | | | | | | | | |38 |56 |2026 | | +--------------------------+----------+---------+-----------+-----+ | F-Prot 2.10C |38 100% |56 100% |2014 99.4%| S | | TBAV 609 |38 100% |56 100% |2011 99.3%| GS | | Integrity Master 211 |38 100% |56 100% |1958 96.6%| GS | | | | | | | | Scan 109 |38 100% |52 92.9%|1844 91.0%| S | | Dr Sol A-V toolkit 6.56 |38 100% |51 91.1%|1821 89.9%| C | | VIRx 2.91 |36 94.7%|35 62.5%|1764 87.1%| S* | | | | | | | | NAV 3.0 |38 100% |53 94.6%|1644 81.2%| C | | MSAV w/DOS 6.0 |28 75.7%|17 30.4%|1088 53.7%| D | +--------------------------+----------+---------+-----------+-----+ Notice where NAV 3.0 ranks (and the fact that it missed almost 400 viruses out of 2000 in the third category, while the best only missed 12). :) Even the highly acclaimed (in this conference at least) SCAN ranks fourth. The most ironic thing about the results is that the #1 scanner is absolutely ***FREE*** for personal use. NO strings attached! A lot of the BBS distributed viruses fall into the "ZOO" category, which is Norton's weakest point. One other problem with Norton's CRC checking feature is that the CRC record files it uses are specifically targeted (deleted) by the Groove virus when it's resident. No CRC record, no CRC checking. TBAV is an extremely valuable CRC/scanning program, and has another valuable feature called heuristics, which traces executables and searches for virus-like code. It'll tag -most- unknown (non-variants) viruses as infected even without a CRC value. I know you didn't ask, but I've seen several people get infected while using Norton, so I figured what the heck! C-YA! Dave BTW, the above test is released monthly around the same time and can be found in most virus echos, including Fido VIRUS_INFO, and Wildnet Virus. It's also totally unbiased, unlike VSUM's crappy "certifications", which are done using the -MCAFEE- virus collection (gee, I wonder why SCAN always does so well, hmmm, maybe because John "forgets" to pass on the new viruses that SCAN can't find? ;) ... Okay, now, joke's over. Where's President Bush? ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 10856 To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 01/02/94 8:47p Subj: Re: CDROM Systems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BO> US Express Mail ( Cheaper & Trackable) Cheaper to ship than Fed Ex and UPS for sure, but not easier to track. I sent the 4th huge order I have had from a gentlemen in Italy and it didn't show up after 2 months. I contacted the US postal service to track it and they didn't even have the number on file. They sent a request to Italy to find the shipment, and the Italian govertment returned the shipment with no explanation and wasted $78 of the customer's money. I had another shipment sent to Sweden and had to run a trace on it and never got an answer from the US postal service after 5 requests to the Sweden postal service. The customer was able to track it down from his end sitting in the airport, again for no reason. Fed Ex and UPS are definitely outrageously more expensive sometimes, but I wonder if it is not worth it sometimes also <g>. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: MAXspeed/ISDN BBS * 3775 cps..and accelerating!! (1:362/119) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 10857 To: BOBBY POSEY Date: 01/02/94 8:58p Subj: cd's on Lantasti Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BP> I am running both mochines as setvers and have got a Pioneer 600a on BP> one server along with 2 NEC drives. On the other I have 2 Pioneers on my first server and I log them onto my second server by saying net use i: \\servera. That logs all of servera with one drive letter on the second machine and all the drives on servera show up as subdirectories. Dunno if that helps, but it works pretty good. You can also log on serverb as one letter also from servera and that will help a little bit. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: MAXspeed/ISDN BBS * 3775 cps..and accelerating!! (1:362/119) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 10858 To: BOBBY POSEY Date: 01/02/94 9:00p Subj: 6 DISK CHANGERS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No We sell the 600A for $689 cash price bare of $709 for credit cards plus shipping.....615-339-0235 if interested. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: MAXspeed/ISDN BBS * 3775 cps..and accelerating!! (1:362/119) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOUG BARTHOLOMEW Number: 10859 To: JAMES SUMMERS Date: 01/02/94 2:57p Subj: Smartdrv and CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hello- > I have but one question. Can DOS Smartdrv Cache a CD-rOm? MSDOS 6.2 will. Be sure and load the MSCDEX that comes with DOS 6.2 before loading SMARTDRV. Doug Bartholomew --- GEcho/Frontdoor * Origin: Hog Country *Home of the ARKANSAS Razorbacks* (1:391/1180.9) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 10860 To: KYLE MACHULIS Date: 01/01/94 5:36a Subj: COMMERICIAL CD ROMS? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boy is that a bad game.... How the h*ll are you supposted to figure > out that you have to put a swimsuit toghther with DENTAIL FLOSS!!!! I thought that was what held MOST current "nice" swimsuits together? 8-) * SLMR 2.1a * Purrverse (n): a poem about a Cat. --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 10861 To: KYLE MACHULIS Date: 01/01/94 5:38a Subj: FASTER CDROMS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >▓▐█I am quite interested in the NEC player witch has rom for 6 discs, > The only one I know that is that way is the Panasonic Jukebox It's a Pioneer, NOT a Panasonic. > and it's around $2000..... Even the DRM-604X (the high performance highest COST one) is widely available RETAIL for under $1400, and only LISTS for $1595 as I recall. * SLMR 2.1a * Door (n): Item that the Cat wants on the other side of. --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 10862 To: GARY HUFF Date: 01/01/94 5:41a Subj: PANASONIC 562/AT BUS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >The Matsushita/Panasonic 562 is not a SCSI drive. It's a variety of IDE. Nope. The Matsushita AKA Panasonic drives are a PROPRIATARY interface. 40 pin cables do NOT "IDE" make, by a LONG shot. On the other hand, they are rumoured to be working on, or have come out with, a SCSI VARIENT on that drive.... * SLMR 2.1a * Congress: Don't Do Something, Stand There! --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 10863 To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 01/01/94 5:47a Subj: CD ROM INFO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >I criticised IBM and Intel HEAVILY for not >providing a 32 bit wide data structure in 1980 Excessive - complaining about being 8 bit instead of 16 bit I would have agreed with, but NO microcomputer was 32 bit (data width) THAT far back. >the 32Meg hard drive limit The PC didn't HAVE a hard drive in 1980. The XT didn't show up 'till late '81 or '82, and had an 8 Meg limit per partition (32 Meg limits didn't show up 'till DOS 3.x and the AT). * SLMR 2.1a * Don't look at me, I was hired for my brains. --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 10864 To: JOHN ULLMER Date: 01/01/94 5:48a Subj: 7TH GUEST WITH SONY Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > box there is a long list of "requirements" to run the program: Conform to > MPC1 standards (multi-spin) MPC1 does NOT have a "multi-spin" requirement - that is the MPC 2 specification. * SLMR 2.1a * You can have Peace, OR Freedom. Don't count on both. --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 10865 To: JOHN BARTA Date: 01/01/94 5:51a Subj: WANTED BEATLES CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > JB> Beatles Hard Days Night CD-RoM !!!! RK> Do you know if CD-ROM carries Top >Gun or the Fatal Attraction CDs RK> yet? >We were talking about CD-ROM's for computers. Might you be you talking >about LASER disks? Don't know about the other 2 titles offhand, but Hard Day's Night has been out on a CD-ROM (for Macintosh, as I recall) for a month or three now.... * SLMR 2.1a * ...the Song is over. Thought I'd something more to say... --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK LOGSDON Number: 10866 To: TONY COVIELLO Date: 01/02/94 3:15p Subj: animals cd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to All <30 Dec 93 22:34> Tony Coviello wrote: TC> I AM TRYING TO GET 'THE ANIMALS <SAN DIEGO ZOO>' TO RUN, BUT I AM TC> GETTING "256 COLOR MODE REQUIRED" MESSAGE. I HAVE A VGA MONITOR, TC> WHY WON'T IT RUN? Are you running in Windows? If so, you need to load and enable the 256 color video driver. --- XRS 4.50+ * Origin: Control the media and you control the people. (Quick 1:231/30.30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL DAUM Number: 10867 To: BRIAN ECKBLAD Date: 12/29/93 10:47a Subj: OMNI CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BE>I have a Omni CD-ROM, I can not get it to load the driver MSCDEX "or s BE>like that" When I try to load the driver is says NOT ENOUGH DRIVE LETT BE>AVAILABLE. Well I can not get in touch with Creative Labs Tech Suppor BE>their BBS does not answer. I have my HDD sectioned in three parts C: D BE>I am trying to get the CD ROM to be Drive F:. I have set up MSCDEX lik BE>MSCDEK "PATH" /d:MSCD001 /L:f etc I ahve tried many different combinat BE>is driving me nuts. I have a SBPRO card and the CD is hooked to it. I BE>is installed properly because SBCD.sys reconizes it during boot up. We BE>HELP! BE> Do you have a statement in your config.sys that says last drive=E or something. If not, add Last Drive=G. --- ■ WinQwk 2.0 a#0 ■ Unregistered Evaluation Copy --- FLAME v1.0/b * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 10 lines, 100,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PHIL ESPINOZA Number: 10868 To: ALL Date: 01/01/94 10:24p Subj: Inca Hints Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I need help with the Inca CD GAme. I am in the level just past qcquiring the 2nd jewel on the tumi. I am battling the conquistidor ships and cannot get through them even after using my missiles on them!! Does anyone know a secret code in which I can surpass this one level? Or how can I definitely passs this level. Leave a message here. I appreciate it!. Phil --- QScan v1.04b * Origin: OmniScope PCBoard * 704-864-2282 * v.32bis (1:379/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HIPPS Number: 10869 To: KEN KIRKLEY Date: 01/03/94 2:03a Subj: Getting Out Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To:Ken Kirkley @1:3652/5*4 KK>Just checking to see if this confenece is turned on. Have not been KK>receving any messages for the last week. Please send me a message if KK>this gets to anyone. Thanks, Loud and clear in Shelby,NC.<g>. --- * CmpQwk #UNREG * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY VQWK 6.20 [Rev D - 11/14] --- VFIDO 6.10.05 * Origin: Futura (1:379/501) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE BROWN Number: 10870 To: CHRIS ROBINSON Date: 01/03/94 12:42a Subj: Advice, please... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >>> CHRIS ROBINSON wrote to AL BRATLIE on 12-31-93 19:45 <<< CR>to many articles (i.e. pg.38 Jan PCConnection) I'm hearing that these CR>wavetable cards are the way to go yet are cheaper than the SB16 ASP CR>SCSI-2. The cards talked heavily about are the Orchid Soundwave 32, CR>Diamond Sonic Pro, and the Cardinal ????? (don't recall). Just thought I would go with the SB16. Then you could add a midi daughterboard or external midi module later on. I am planning to get a Turtle Beach RIO (when it comes out) which plugs in the midi socket on the SB16. I believe the RIO is pretty much just the midi part of a TB Monterey with 4MB ROM, 256k RAM expandable to 4MB, and effects processor. The MSRP is $249. The Soundwave has 1 MB ROM and the Sonic has only 512k ROM so the RIO should sound much better. With the SB16 when something better comes out you only have to replace the WTS part instead of the whole thing. <g> * WaveRdr 1.01 # 101 * Somebody! PLEASE! STOP ME before I upgrade again!!! --- WM v2.05/91-0207 * Origin: The Byte Exchange, HST DS/16.8 504-735-0136 (1:390/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NANCY DAVIN Number: 10871 To: BOB BREED Date: 01/02/94 9:24p Subj: MOVIE CD REQUEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On the encyclopedias, do you know what kind of a price these companies are offering for upgrades? For instance, if I purchase Encarta this year and in several years they come out with an even flashier version, do I pay the full price for upgrade? Do you happen to know if these prices vary greatly from company to company? Just curious if Encarta and Grolier's are very different. I believe I've narrowed my choices down to these two. Thanks for your input. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Icarus BBS (1:283/657) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOBBY POSEY Number: 10872 To: DAVE CLARK Date: 01/02/94 7:37p Subj: cd's on Lantasti Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hay Dave I am also running Lantasti and have 10 cd's online at this time. I am running both mochines as setvers and have got a Pioneer 600a on one server along with 2 NEC drives. On the other Mochine I have 2 sony drives but the real question is how do you make the drives run as one single drive letter?? I would like to make the Pioneer run as one letter instead of 6 because I am running out of letters as well.. Let me know something as soon as possible and thanks very much for your time.. You can netmail me at 1:388/20 ... Bobby --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: The Mule Barn BBS (I'm Stubbern allright) 756-7565 (1:388/20) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS ANSELL Number: 10873 To: LEON PATSIATZIS Date: 01/02/94 12:05a Subj: Rebel Assult Patch?? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Leon, my name is Chris Ansell and i was planning on getting a cd rom drive plus rebel assault later in march. I have watched rebel assault a few times on various setups at shops, and i have noticed that it hangs on the odd occasion. This would be very annoying if you owned it and it kept hanging. I sympathise with you and wanted to ask you what kind of cd rom drive you have, coz i was thinking about getting one of those multimedia oacks with the SB 16 card and the double speed panasonic cd rom. If this is your cd rom, could you pass on any opinions you have on it? Also, in the rebel assault manual, i noticed they provide an ideal config sys setup to run rebel assault. Even with this config of theirs, does your copy still hang? If you could find some time to reply, i would greatly appreciate it. regards, chris ansell --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Bush Telegraph - Sydney - Australia (3:711/454) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANDREW PIDGEON Number: 10874 To: ALL Date: 12/31/93 5:38p Subj: HAPPY NEW YEAR! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No A little birdy prompted Andrew Pidgeon to wish everybody a very happy and prosperous 1994. Best wishes, and I'll type to ya soon, Andrew (put the cat amongst 'em) Pidgeon. ... Weather forecast for tonight: dark. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: Common Ground (12 lines - 9600) Tel +61-8-223-2131 (3:800/816) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS ANSELL Number: 10875 To: SCOTT GRAHAM Date: 01/01/94 10:39p Subj: Rebel Assault Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Scott, my name is chris Ansell. i am from australia and although i am sure you have seen rebel assault by now, if you hadn't then i thought i might tell you it is awesome. The sound is spectacular, the graphics second to none, but there is one downfall. The game plays the same everytime, you are only in charge of shooting, the driving is done by the computer. Although this limits your access to the game, the other aspects of it tend to make you forget about it's downfalls. If you are a star wars nut like i am, you will go bonkers over it. If you have seen , would you be able to tell me what happens in the snowwalker bit, as it is my fav bit in the whole trilogy of movies. Also, since you have called Lucasarts before, would you be able to do me a small favour. I would love to find out what the next mission disk for X-wing will be. I heard it will be a special 486 deluxe tour that is only available to 486 owners coz it has huge battles and is very fast. I know Tiefighter is coming out in july, but that is ages away. Oh well, catha later mate. regards, chris ansell. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Heaven's Door * 61-2-440-8937 * 2 lines * T.PEP V32bis (3:711/927) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TED HARPER Number: 10876 To: POE LIM Date: 01/01/94 7:20a Subj: Return to Zork Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Poe: [ re: Return to Zork CDROM update patch 1.0->1.1 ] > TH> but /doesn't/ allow you to keep your existing savegames. > ^^^^^^^^ > Arrgh! Well, almost done anyway, so I'll persevere > with the old one. It's kind of a major omission isn't it. I for one wouldn't have minded a slightly longer download for the upgrade if there had been a "migrate saved game" utility included as well. I'm not nearly as far through the game as you, so I didn't mind working back through from the start. BTW, the sound isn't really all *that* much better than 1.0 was (on my SBPro at least). ted.h. --- * Origin: Ted's Skiing Substitute, Sydney +61-2-686-4192 (3:713/306) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAURIE BATT Number: 10877 To: TONY SAUNDERS Date: 01/01/94 7:28a Subj: CD-ROMS for sale Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No G'day Tony Saunders, In a message on <Dec 26>, you said : TS> I have the following CD-ROMS for sale TS> DAY of the Tentacle $50 (fully boxed version) Tony please ask Your SYSOP to check his config files. All you messages are being sent with 0/0 identification Laurie --- Msgedsq 2.2e * Origin: The PNG Connection, Cairns Tropical Nth Qld, OZ (3:640/532) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 10878 To: ROB BELANGER Date: 01/03/94 12:19a Subj: NEC 3XI/SB16SCSI-2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I cannot help you on this matter but I am asking this same ? wherever I go... I just purchased my SB16ASP-SCSI-2 today and it really does sound great... The only thing I can tell you is that in the installation manual for the SCSI-2 interface, they have a listing of CD-ROM drives that are supported by the card and the NEC 3xi isn"t there. I guess its a little too new... Anyway, if you ever get info on this combo ( that I hope to get soon, i.e. the drive ) please let me know what the turnout is... I will give you more details if I find information out for myself as well.... See ya later Chris --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: DomTech OS/2 BBS, Aylmer PQ (819)682-5400 HST/DS (1:243/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 10879 To: JAMES SUMMERS Date: 01/03/94 12:25a Subj: Smartdrv and CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Yes, if you have DOS 6.2, the smartdrive cache will enable a CD-ROM drive and believe me, my 350 ms access time CD-ROM drive turned into at least a 300ms access time. Not much but when loading big progs, helps a lot Have a nice day! Chris --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: DomTech OS/2 BBS, Aylmer PQ (819)682-5400 HST/DS (1:243/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 10880 To: TOM MILLER Date: 01/03/94 7:26p Subj: CREAM OF THE CROP II Refer: 13250 Read: NO Private: No -> JM| I run Remote Access 2.01 and the Ra_CREAM convertion program i -> JM| infact the ONLY one i've seen that WORKS. -> -> Will this CD work well on a Wildcat System? Any CD can be used with Wildcat. The only requirement is for the description files to be consistently formatted. tim co-moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 10881 To: DON KULHA Date: 01/03/94 7:30p Subj: Multimedia Authoring Refer: 13264 Read: NO Private: No -> Since I haven't seen much discussion of it here I was wondering if -> were any echos where discussion of multimedia tools, authoring, title -> production were held. -> -> I'm also interested in front ends for organizing and delivering in -> Info primarily would be graphics files....pcx/gif/avi...reccomendatio -> licensing/etc. much appreciated. Call me and I'll talk to you about this... tim 404-621-9210 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 10882 To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 01/03/94 8:06p Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: 13317 Read: NO Private: No -> I suspect there will be a new game in town once Planet Connect starts -> BBS network service to Europe (which is expected soon). Essentially -> _all_ of FIDO, Intelec, Ilink, etc. etc (about 15-20 networks) will b -> available by satellite downlink, at a quite reasonable cost (like Planet Connect is taking over the world.... The U.S.A. is already a done deal and the other continents are next |). tim PLANET_CONNECT moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 10883 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 01/03/94 8:08p Subj: GOOD SHAREWARE CDS Refer: 13328 Read: NO Private: No -> Let us be glad and rejoice, for the marriage of the Lamb is come,(Re That line accomplishes nothing beyond the spreading of your brand of religious dogma. Take it elsewhere, as it's not welcome here. tim co-moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 10884 To: JOE RINEHART Date: 01/03/94 7:56p Subj: Cd-rom Drives+ Refer: 13340 Read: NO Private: No -> ********* Refurbished Hitachi Model 3600 CD-ROM DRIVES $130 ******** -> ********* Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $120 ******** -> ********* Refurbished SCSI NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $130 ******** Use them 10 lines ;)... tim co-moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL GUIDRY Number: 10885 To: ERIC WARDS Date: 01/02/94 6:34p Subj: Loom Cd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 01 Jan 94, Eric Wards stated to Michael Guidry: EW>MG>EW> EW>MG>EW>Hi, James.... EW>MG>EW> I have played the game a while, but you are farther t EW>MG>EW> am at the part where the lamb is in the basket, sick, EW>MG>EW> woman there says I have to heal it? Do you know abou EW>MG>EW> Does any one know of this part and how to get around EW> EW>MG>I don't remember the answer, but see the my answer to James abou EW>UHS. EW> EW> EW>Yes I have UHS, but I am unable to find any files. You said GEnie EW>them, but I have no access to the board. Do you or anyone know of EW>boards that supply the files for UHS? I am very interested in the EW>system and advancing in Loom! Thanx for the help. Tell ya what. If your willing to spend 50 cents, you can download it. I'm the sysop of the French Quarter, a bbs for the New Orleans Atari club [most of the members have pc's now.]. I'll post it and the help files for Loom and Sherlock in the Windows games file area. New callers get 2 downloads without need for any validation. The phone number is 504-891-1388. ... User Friendly: Never having to say - "I read the manual." --- WIN-MAIL "The Pointe System" for MS Windows - Beta/0.09A * Origin: Castle Guidrax -- New Orleans, Louisiana (1:396/1.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIRK REEVES Number: 10886 To: ALL Date: 01/01/94 10:48p Subj: curse of enchantia Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello, I just brought CURSE OF ENCHANTIA and the game won't install Has anybody else had this problem? --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Barristers' BBS, Portland, Or. V32b (503) 228-5866 (1:105/31) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT WESTER Number: 10887 To: JOE RINEHART Date: 12/31/93 12:06p Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No (1:126/1081) ╒═══════════════════════════════╕ ▌█▀Joe, on my last message to you, I forgot to give you my address. It ▌█▀is: Louis Diggs ▌█▀1114 Arunah Avenue ▌█▀Catonsville, Maryland 21228-3124 ▌█▀Thanks. ▌█▀ ▌█▀-!- ▌█▀ ! Origin: Catonsville Comm College, Balto. County, MD (1:261/1081) ▌█▀ ▌█▀ Send a catalog to me also Robert Wester 151 E. Forest Ln. Houston, TX 77015 --- ■ TLX v3.30 ■ ; #FN@ First name in TO: Field of new message ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: PSL Online Houston, TX (713)442-6704 1:106/6256 (1:106/6256) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE PARDUE Number: 10888 To: JOE REINHART Date: 12/31/93 2:34p Subj: !free Cd catalog! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I would appreciate a free copy of your CD catalog.. George Pardue 5010 Indigo St Houston, TX 77096 Thanks ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: PSL Online Houston, TX (713)442-6704 1:106/6256 (1:106/6256) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DANNY WOFFORD Number: 10889 To: BOB BREED Date: 01/02/94 9:09a Subj: LOOKING FOR MOVIE DATABA Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Bob Breed wrote in a message to Danny Wofford: BB> Next time you have 'movie select' loaded, how about BB> checking how many movies it lists a star named S. Z. Sakall BB> appearing in? (I assume you can search by star?) S. Z. Sakall is listed 5 times, Lullaby of Broadway, My Dream is Yours, Romance on the High Seas, It's a Date, & San Antonio...... BB> Also, does it list "Easy To Wed,' and "Twice Blessed"? BB> (Movies made in the 1940's that were less than best BB> sellers.) Neither movie title you asked about was in it........... Have a fine one, Danny --- timEd-A10c * Origin: The StarGazer * Home of a 1931 Ford Roadster (1:106/131) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRAD FALCONER Number: 10890 To: ALL Date: 01/01/94 10:34p Subj: Under a Killing Moon Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Has anyone heard any release/porting rumors about the DOS CD-ROM, Under A Killing Moon? Will it be available for the Mac? Thanks.... Brad -> Alice4Mac 2.3b1 E QWK Eval:30Dec93 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: * MacSavvy BBS * Dallas, Texas * (214)250-4479 * (1:124/1208) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEREK STUTSMAN Number: 10891 To: CHAD REID Date: 01/01/94 6:32p Subj: UFO CD Rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CR>Let me guess Derek, your store doesn't have a return policey? I was CR>going to try it out, I guess I'll think twice this time. Luckily, the store was good about the return, and I was able to get Rebel Assault instead. (Which I _do_ recommend!) Derek Stutsman * Wave Rider 1.01 [NR] * ... UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- Blue Wave/Maximus * Origin: Code 3 BBS *Lewisville,TX* 214-436-8753/221-7139 (1:124/6106) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEREK STUTSMAN Number: 10892 To: RALPH LINDEMANN Date: 01/01/94 8:30p Subj: VIVID CD Kama Sutra Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RL>Hello everybody! RL>I got the Vivid Kama Sutra CD ROM from a friend. Too bad it's not runnin RL>I'm probably missing some files for the tmmplay thing. Anybody who can RL>give me a hint ??? RL>Perhaps someone can create a listing of the contents of his CD ROM. Or RL>maybe I'll get the chance to download the missing files. The missing fil RL>are probably just some little lib files. This is probably a dumb question, but how could the CD be missing files? I mean, you can't delete them! Look for an install or setup program on the CD. If it's Windows-based, that should fix your problem. Derek Stutsman * Wave Rider 1.01 [NR] * ... UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- Blue Wave/Maximus * Origin: Code 3 BBS *Lewisville,TX* 214-436-8753/221-7139 (1:124/6106) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB HAMILTON Number: 10893 To: TIM PEETERS Date: 12/31/93 6:59a Subj: wanted: DRM600A Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What do you consider CHEAP! Looks like it's time for a netmail discussion. Bob. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Shadowland Regina, Sk. Canada (306)789-1899 (1:140/119) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG CONTESTI Number: 10894 To: ALL Date: 12/25/93 5:19p Subj: The 7th Guest Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Can anyone help me out, I try playing the 7th guest and I get in to the main menu and the hand is there but when I move the mouse it starts reproducing the hand all over the place but I can access stuff, and I know it's not an IRQ conflict because there are no other IRQ's using the same one as my CD-Rom/SoundBlaster. Thanks in advance. --- T.A.G. 2.6f1 Standard * Origin: The Creative ArtsBase - 1.9 GB - 2 nodes - 905/527-7449 (1:244/130) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS MOORE Number: 10895 To: BRIAN ECKBLAD Date: 12/29/93 1:26p Subj: Re: OMNI CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Brian > something like that" When I try to load the driver is says NOT > ENOUGH DRIVE LETTERS AVAILABLE. Well I can not get in touch with > Creative Labs Tech Support and their BBS does not answer. I have my > HDD sectioned in three parts C: D: and E: I am trying to get the CD > ROM to be Drive F:. I have set up MSCDEX like this > MSCDEK "PATH" /d:MSCD001 /L:f etc I ahve tried many different Do you have a LASTDRIVE statement in your CONFIG.SYS file? "LASTDRIVE=E" by any chance? If so, either take it out, or change it to "LASTDRIVE=F". Let me know how it goes. Chris --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: OSH Exchange - Hamilton, Ontario (1:244/110) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID RYDER Number: 10896 To: TONY COVIELLO Date: 01/02/94 4:02a Subj: animals cd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: Message entered on Dec 30,93 by TONY COVIELLO to ALL *********************************************************************** TC> I AM TRYING TO GET 'THE ANIMALS <SAN DIEGO ZOO>' TO RUN, BUT I AM GETTING "256 TC> COLOR MODE REQUIRED" MESSAGE. I HAVE A VGA MONITOR, WHY WON'T IT RUN? Tony, looks like you need SVGA (256 colour) David. Entered Jan 2,94 from Mississauga, Ontario. rn.1063@rose.com * PMDBM V1.75b #29 * --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BENGT OSTERDAHL Number: 10897 To: GEORGE VAISEY Date: 01/02/94 12:14a Subj: New/Need Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello George! 28 Dec 93 You wrote to me: >> Try to find CD-Player. We found it under the name of CDPLAY34.SDN. It >> contains both a DOS- and a Windows-version. It also has a database for Your >> musical CDs. GV> Do you know where I can get it? Thanks. No, I don't know where to find it in the US. I found it locally here in Sweden, but as it is an "SDN-archive" which is released in the US it _ought_ to be available on a BBS near to You. Greetings/Bengt --- GoldED 2.42.A0701+ 12SW1 / Squish / BinkleyTerm * Origin: Bengt's point in Gustavsberg, Sweden (2:201/329.13) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BAYANI CUSTODIO Number: 10898 To: JOHN THOMPSON Date: 12/31/93 7:13p Subj: Cd encyclopedias Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JT>Despite their claim that Compton's is "designed for students of all ages," JT>it *DOES* seem geared mostly to Elementary or Middle School level students. That is exactly the problem. I think the data it contains is about the same amount of data they would have in a half decent one volume freebie encyclopedia. :) It's almost like one of those "Everything you wanted to know in one volume" type books. My nieces are now in grade 9 and they will be needing more serious material than Compton's has. See yah later Bayani ___ X DeLuxe2 1.25 #703sa X VAGABOND'S DREAM in a VOID() --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB (204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BAYANI CUSTODIO Number: 10899 To: DAREK WOLOSZ Date: 12/31/93 7:15p Subj: Cd encyclopedias Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DW>J use Groliers on my home computer and J've had some DW>experiences with Microsofts Encarta. My opinion is that if DW>you are going to buy one try Groliers - it is much cheaper DW>(here in Sweden at least ...). Encarta is certainly a good I'll have to give both of them a look. Have to find a store that will demo the full CDROM though not just some cutup short version. :) Prices here in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada are very strange. On one store a CDROM might sell for $30.00 but in another store might sell for as much as $75.00. See yah later Bayani ___ X DeLuxe2 1.25 #703sa X VAGABOND'S DREAM in a VOID() --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB (204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE GOYER Number: 10900 To: ALL Date: 01/02/94 2:21p Subj: Toolworks Ref. Lib Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I just got my new Panasonic CD562B the other day and I also got the Toolworks Reference Library CD. The program won't run when I have my mouse driver installed (logitech 3 button mouse). Does anybody else have this problem? Maybe I need a newer mouse driver (I'm using 6.00 right now). What's the number for the Logitech BBS (if they have one)? Thanks. ___ X CmpQwk #UNREGX UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Exchange OS/2 BBS Prince George V32bis (1:359/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE GERVASI Number: 10901 To: DANNY MCCLATCHEY Date: 01/01/94 9:54p Subj: A Hard Day's Night Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Then it happened...... DM26-Dec-93, Steve Mann wrote to All DM Subject: A Hard Day's Night SM> BEATLES fans and collectors take note: SM> SM> We will soon have limited supplies of the Beatles movie on CD: SM> "A Hard Day's Night" for around $65 I just ordered a windows version of this disk for 32.95 inc shipping! I ordered it from CD Warehouse 1-800-237-6623 (thanks to John Barta for the info!) Mike * Wave Rider 1.0 [NR] * ... UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- Blue Wave/Maximus * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE GERVASI Number: 10902 To: TONY COVIELLO Date: 01/01/94 9:57p Subj: animals cd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Then it happened...... TCI AM TRYING TO GET 'THE ANIMALS <SAN DIEGO ZOO>' TO RUN, BUT I AM TC GETTING "256 COLOR MODE REQUIRED" MESSAGE. I HAVE A VGA TC MONITOR, WHY WON'T IT RUN? If this is a Windows Version, you must make sure that you have the correct video driver installed in the WIndows Setup portion of the program. It is probably because you are now running 16 color instead of 256. Hope this helps! Mike Mike * Wave Rider 1.0 [NR] * ... UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- Blue Wave/Maximus * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADAM BRIAND Number: 10903 To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW Date: 01/01/94 5:38p Subj: Canadian CD Distributor? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No | I'll put one in the mail for you today. At HRB Computer Services, we | have about 900 titles available (No adult-only material). If you have | access to CRS Online (416) 213-6002 you can download our current price | list called HRBCD9.ZIP. Either way you should have it shortly. | | Thanks | | Hayden Bradshaw | HRB Computer Services | 14 Hollis Crescent | Holland Landing, ON L9N 1E7 | Information & Fax Line: (905) 830-1615 | Orders Only: 1-800-265-7081 Can you send me a catalog also? Here's my address. 98 Wilce Dr. Ajax, Ontario L1T 3K3 ___ X JABBER v1.1 X Another case of Cherry Coke down the programming hatch! --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: *-Super S.O.N.I.C. BBS-* *-(416)225-8942-* (1:250/722) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KENT TIMM Number: 10904 To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 01/02/94 4:48a Subj: Re: KODAK PHOTOCD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Stardate: 29 Dec 93 14:27. Leslie Rhorer send to Bob Breed by subspace. LR> (And people wonder why I am not impressed by digital photographs.) You're not the only one! I've yet to figure out why somebody would want to take a good photo, either negitive or slide and put it on a TV or other video screen. In fact, I ofter to the reverse. I've become quite skilled at coping video to 35mm stills. ... I'm not Superman, but I played a reporter on TV. --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: TIBM Wizard.Echomail Hub USRDS(416)7436703 (1:250/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KENT TIMM Number: 10905 To: RICHARD MONTOYA Date: 01/02/94 4:59a Subj: Re: SBLASTER/CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Stardate: 30 Dec 93 07:25. Richard Montoya send to All by subspace. RM> I was reading in the Sound Blaster manual that it can be used as an RM> interface for a CD-ROM. Apparently some special instructions and/or RM> hardware are needed as I could not get it to work. The CD-ROM drive is RM> an older Mitsumi and came with its own card. It worked reasonably well I have a Panasonic drive, but the same problem. The store gave me the wrong driver for it, when I called them they told me to get a new CDROM controller. Of course I didn't want to do that. I called Creative Labs BBS and got the correct driver for running a CD via the SB Pro. I'm not sure if they have one for your Mitsumi, but you could try the file SBPCD-XA.EXE. That's the one I'm using, it _might_ work for you. Hope this helps. Creative Labs BBS: 405-742-6660 ... R/C Helper: The world's first Shareware software for R/C cars! --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: TIBM Wizard.Echomail Hub USRDS(416)7436703 (1:250/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PETER PRASAD Number: 10906 To: JOHN RINEHART Date: 01/02/94 12:16p Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting George Barone to Joe Rinehart <=- GB> * In a message originally to All, Joe Rinehart said: > *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories > CATALOG!************* > For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW > catalog... > If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information > to us. > We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request. > CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles > available) > Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org > FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet Thanks a lot for the CD list, will post if a need any...... Happy new year... Peter ... Catch the Blue Wave! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Exchange OS/2 BBS Prince George V32bis (1:359/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PETER PRASAD Number: 10907 To: JAMES SUMMERS Date: 01/02/94 12:46p Subj: Re: Smartdrv and CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting James Summers to All <=- JS> Hello- JS> I have but one question. Can DOS Smartdrv Cache a CD-rOm? Yes in DOS v6.2 it does, not a excellent cache driver but not bad. Peter........ ... Catch the Blue Wave! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Exchange OS/2 BBS Prince George V32bis (1:359/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROB BELANGER Number: 10908 To: ALL Date: 01/02/94 11:12a Subj: NEC 3Xi and SB16ASP/SCSI-2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello out there. I was wondering if anybody has tried to use the NEC 3Xi with a Sound Blaster 16 ASP/SCSI-2. I would appreciate any feedback on this combination because I am thinking of upgrading my current SBPRO/Sony 31a configuration. Also, I was wondering if these items were purchased as seperate items and not part of any bundle, if any additional cables, etc. are required or if they are included with either the CD-ROM or the Sound Card. Thank you for any feedback ahead of time. --- T.A.G. 2.6f1 Standard * Origin: DownStairs Plantsville,Ct (203)621-1930 -<HST/DS>- (1:141/805) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HANK ANDERSON Number: 10909 To: RICHARD MONTOYA Date: 01/02/94 3:39a Subj: SBLASTER/CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RM>I was reading in the Sound Blaster manual that it can be used as an RM>interface for a CD-ROM. Apparently some special instructions and/or RM>hardware are needed as I could not get it to work. The CD-ROM drive is RM>an older Mitsumi and came with its own card. It worked reasonably well RM>but I would like to eliminate one card from my computer just in case I RM>ever need the extra slot. Does anyone out there have any experience with RM>this subject. If so, any help would be appriciated on my part. The bord RM>is a Sound Blaster Pro. Thanks. Richard, If memory serves me right, the Soundblaster Pro should have an interface slot on the card itself. This was one of the unique things Creative Labs did. The slot is for the ribbon cable from your CD ROM drive. I too have a Mitsumi CD-ROM drive, but I only have the 8 bit Sound Blaster. Let me know if that helps you out. Hank Anderson * OLX 2.2 * Message from - APS Software Solutions 13:13/0 - --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: FidoNet(tm) : The Pentagon 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HANK ANDERSON Number: 10910 To: TODD PRUSKI Date: 01/02/94 3:47a Subj: SBPRO Joystick, GUS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TP>I have the Soundblaster Pro, and it seems to work fine, except for the TP>joystick. I can't get it to work. On my old 286 system, it worked TP>fine, but now I hear it is too slow for the 33MHz bus. I don't know TP>why, though, because it is ISA, on an ISA bus at 8MHz, and ALL my other TP>expansion slots are ISA boards and work fine. This doesn't appear to be TP>the problem intuitively, but from the Netposts I've read and the TP>technical people I've talked to, they say this is why joystick ports TP>have problems on 33MHz systems (66MHz crystal). WELL I DON'T BUY TP>THAT!!! I personally think it's a BIOS problem, or an interrupt/address TP>thing, but I can't seem to trace this down very well. Oh well, TP>hopefully someone can answer me on this. TP>Also, I have seen the Gravis UltraSound Boards with General MIDI Todd, I have a 80486DX @ 33 MHz with a SoundBlaster Sound Card. I also have an I/O card with a Joystick port. Both Ports will function independantly from one another, but if you leave both on, they argue over who is stronger :). Your Gravis board and Soundblaster board might be conflicting over which one wants the game port. My suggestion is to disable one of the boards game/MIDI port and try it then. That should eliminate your problem. As for the talk about your sound card not being able to handle the 33 Mhz...Well, that's a bunch of crap. I haven't had any problem with my card yet, and mine is 8 bit not 16 like yours! Let me know it that solved your problem. Hank Anderson * OLX 2.2 * Message from - APS Software Solutions 13:13/0 - --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: FidoNet(tm) : The Pentagon 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HANK ANDERSON Number: 10911 To: JOHN VIKSTROM Date: 01/02/94 3:50a Subj: Sound Blaster Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JV> I have a Sound Blaster Pro multimedia sound card. JV> It was originally installed in a 386. Worked just fine. I then had JV> the card and CD Rom transferred to my 486. This is when the annoyance bega JV>The sound became scratchy. It was as if the speakers picked up noise from t JV>CD Rom somehow. JV> Any similar experiences? All tips welcome. JV> Thank you all John, One remedy might be to move the soundcard away from the power supply as much as possible. Second, do you have an internal modem? If so, move it away from the sound card. The same thing happened to my (except my sound card came in my 486) and I moved my modem and CD-ROM card away from the soundcard and it has worked fine ever since. Let me know what happens! Hank Anderson * OLX 2.2 * Message from - APS Software Solutions 13:13/0 - --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: FidoNet(tm) : The Pentagon 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HANK ANDERSON Number: 10912 To: KYLE MACHULIS Date: 01/02/94 3:56a Subj: Re: Writable? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KM> Michael Garber wrote KM> ╒═══════════════════════════════╕ KM>█▌▒What is the current story on writable CD-ROM's? Just a curiosity. KM> ╘═══════════════════════════════╛ KM> All I know is that there expensive.... KM>... Funny how no sysops have complained over the "extra expense". KM>--- I heard that they are outragous in price, but where do you get the CDs? Seems only logical that they would sell the CDs and the Drives!!! Unless they intend you to use one CD over, and over, and over again. * OLX 2.2 * Message from - APS Software Solutions 13:13/0 - --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: FidoNet(tm) : The Pentagon 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER COLLINS Number: 10913 To: ALL Date: 01/01/94 10:40a Subj: SCSI CDROM Wanted Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Looking for a good price on either an external or internal SCSI CDROM. Must be at least a double spin, prefer something by Texel, Toshiba, NEC, or Chinon. Must be 300ms or less access, 350KB or greater transfer rate. Internal would be fine, external would be good too! Really looking for something on the Windows NT or OS 2.1 approved list. Will be attaching to an Adaptec 1542CF controller. Leave message and phone number with quote. New or used fine. Thanks. * CmpQwk #UNREG* UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- WM v3.10/92-0004 * Origin: The Computer Room-Pickerington, Oh (614)861-8377 (1:226/110) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM MILLER Number: 10914 To: JOE RINEHART Date: 01/02/94 10:26a Subj: !FREE CD CATALOG! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Greetings Wanda ! In a message to Joe Rinehart <12/29/93> Wanda Kato wrote: WK| JR+*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!************* WK| +For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog... WK| +If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us. WK| +We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request. WK| +CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available) WK| + Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org WK| + FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176 WK| +Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc. Voice: (216) 296-9831 - 24 hours WK| +P.O. Box 27 Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244 WK| +Kent, Ohio 44240-0001 >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<< I would like a copy of your catalog Joe: Tom Miller 403 Pine Forest Dr. Slidell, LA 70458 * WCE 1.5/2163 * Hardware: The part you kick. --- WM v3.00/92-0228 * Origin: Miller's Crossing Slidell, LA. 14.4 (1:390/22.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE Number: 10915 To: LANE WEISS Date: 12/31/93 7:19p Subj: Re: Police Quest Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Lane Weiss@1:107/63 meinte am 27.12.93 zum Thema "Police Quest": LW>Anyone know when Police Quest IV for CD-ROM is coming out?? Do you mean the _normal_ HD Version or a special CD ROM Version ? Bye Chris --- CrossPoint v2.92 * Origin: How is my writing : Call 1-800-EAT-SHIT (2:242/401.10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE Number: 10916 To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 12/31/93 7:21p Subj: Re: WINDOWS AND PC'S CR*P Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Scott Davis@1:112/2701 meinte am 28.12.93 zum Thema "WINDOWS AND PC'S CR*P": SD>BA>For those of you who may be interested, I run a 386/33DX with 8Mb RAM, SD>BA>2x100Mb disks-stacked, with a Panasonic CR562B CD drive running off a SD>BA>SoundBlaster Pro (IRQ 10, IO Base 220, DMA 1), with MSCDEX 2.22, and SD>BA>Creative Labs sbcd.sys Driver, dated 16jul93. Also a CMS401-11 MPU SD>BA>card, (IRQ's 3+7, IO Base 330) and a NE2000 Network Card, (IRQ 5, IO SD>BA>Base 340). Software is DOS 5 and Windows 3.1. SD> SD>Part of your problem may be the stacked drives.. you shouldn't EVER run SD>Window off a stacked drive.. causes all kinds of problems.. Strange, I run Windows on a Stacker 3.1 Drive and before that on Stacker 3.0 for almost 2 years and had _never_ any problems what-so-ever. Stacker works fine with _all_ Windows Apllications ! You probably mean Double Space which comes with DOS6.0 Bye Chris --- CrossPoint v2.92 * Origin: How is my writing : Call 1-800-EAT-SHIT (2:242/401.10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON DEVRIES Number: 10917 To: DAVE DUCHARME Date: 01/01/94 5:27p Subj: RE: ST:TNG CD? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JD>>What was that last sentence about? They don't have any plans for making >>a TNG game, do they? DD> Yes, there is a ST:TNG in the works right now. I don't believe DD> it is being DD> made by Interplay, but rather by a different software company. DD> The TNG game DD> will be on CD-ROM. Any idea on when it will be out? Where do you get all your information? I'll let you know if I hear anything about it myself. ... A cat will blink when struck with a hammer. --- via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- QM v1.31 * Origin: The Idiot Box RBBS-PC =+> 1-800-295-2943 (1:207/703.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC WARDS Number: 10918 To: MICHAEL GUIDRY Date: 01/01/94 10:23p Subj: Loom Cd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MG>EW> MG>EW>Hi, James.... MG>EW> I have played the game a while, but you are farther than I MG>EW> am at the part where the lamb is in the basket, sick, and t MG>EW> woman there says I have to heal it? Do you know about this MG>EW> Does any one know of this part and how to get around this? MG>I don't remember the answer, but see the my answer to James about the UHS. Yes I have UHS, but I am unable to find any files. You said GEnie has them, but I have no access to the board. Do you or anyone know of other boards that supply the files for UHS? I am very interested in the system and advancing in Loom! Thanx for the help. C-YA! * OLX 2.1 TD * 9600 baud makes you want to get out and push! --- WM v2.09/92-0277 * Origin: The MARKetplace BBS! (314) 521-3732 (1:100/550) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JESS STOUT Number: 10919 To: JOE RINEHART Date: 01/01/94 12:35p Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Joe, please send one of your catalogs to address below. Just purchased a PAS 16 sound card and NEC 3Xe CD-ROM Drive. Up and running, now for some good CDs. Thanks, Jess. Jess Stout 634 Kingston Road Grovetown, GA 30813 ... Press <Alt-A> to Adopt Me! I need a better home. --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Fort Knox's BBS Hephzibah, Ga. 706-592-6527 (1:360/8.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE KARINA Number: 10920 To: ALL Date: 01/01/94 8:03p Subj: Mad Dog McCree Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Can anybody help me, I just bought Mad Dog McCree (That game where you play a kinda movie). I'm using a Mitsumi, it has 340ms (or close to) access speed, 32k buffer etc. Im using a 386DX 40 w/128k cache and DOS 6.2... Now my problem is the animation is extremely jumpy, not just the usual scenes where the animation is, it just gets jumpy when I shoot at a guy. It takes roughly 3 secs for the guy to fall (frozen until then) and all the sudden it will 'zoom' extremely fast and he will fall down, then it returns to normal until I shoot the next guy. I don't know what to do, my MSCDEX buffer is set to /m:32 (32k buffer) I've tried many other buffer sizes and nothing helps. Also the sounds is very 'clicky' snaps and pops that continues in a pattern (steady), is that they way it was digitized, or just something with my CD-ROM drive??? I really would like some assistance, so PLEASE post me a message if you have ANY advice. It is greatly appreciated!!! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: The Night Hawk BBS of Biloxi, MS (601) 385-2879 (1:3604/55) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SCOTT CATO Number: 10921 To: TIM WEISS Date: 01/03/94 11:12p Subj: Re: Rebel Assualt Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Tim Weiss to Scott Cato <=- TW> To fix your joystick problem, there are 1 of two things you can do TW> that I know of. One-call Lucas Arts BBS and get the 1.4 patch. It is a TW> rewritten ASSAULT.EXE that corrects the joystick problem. Two, there TW> is a much shorter file out there called RAEASY.EXE which allows you to TW> edit joystick parameters directly for every mission, along with TW> changing a whole bunch of other stuff. I highly reccomed this over TW> anything else!! TW> -!- TW> ! Origin: The Blue Oyster BBS - 315-732-8598 (1:2609/502) What's the number to the Lucas Arts BBS? Scott ... Catch the Blue Wave! --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY LAI Number: 10922 To: ALL Date: 01/02/94 5:19p Subj: Drivers Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello.. Everyone.. Can anyone tell me where I can find a OS/2 2.x driver for the philips CM206 2X speed CD-ROM? Regards.. --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Silver & Gold BBS -- (416) 658-9000 in Toronto (1:250/102) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADAM BRIAND Number: 10923 To: TONY SAUNDERS Date: 01/02/94 5:54p Subj: T/L graphics card Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TS | Hi Tony,I noticed that you have a TSENG LABS graphics card.I had one of | those in my 486DX33 computer when I bought it 2 months ago but I had to | change it to a ACTIX Prostar VL card with Cirrus Logic chipset because a | lot of games I tried had the wrong colors displayed.Mostly red where black | should be plus a lot of other colours. | The games it was most noticable on were Comanche,Alone in the Dark,Certain | scenes in Syndicate. | Have you had that problem or do you have a slower computer? The Comanche | readme.doc mentions the T/L card may miss I/O commands when running in a | 486 computer causing wrong colours | | See ya | Tony. Is that TSENG LABS card also referred to as an TS-4000? I am thinking of getting one for its true colour ability but if it's the same you're talking about there's no way I'll get it. ___ X JABBER v1.1 X The best way to accelerate a Mac is at -9.8 m/s2 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: *-Super S.O.N.I.C. BBS-* *-(416)225-8942-* (1:250/722) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NORM LOVDAL Number: 10924 To: ALL Date: 01/03/94 2:02p Subj: lasermate cr-562b /SBPRO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! QUESTIONS: I have had the Sbpro for about a year and a half. I have just installed the LASERMATE CR-562b. The Seventh guest works great. I am using the stereo output from the SBPRO and have it plugged into a ghetoblaster. No problem great sound. Now when I want to play audio cd`s I don`t get any sound out of the sbpro. I must plug a headset into the front jack on the cr562b. The unit came with a three conducter cord which was meant to plug into the adapter card which came with the cr-562. This cord I believe gives you an external hookup for stereo output with the supplied interface card. There is a four wire plug receptacle on the SBPRO marked cd. The problem is the cord supplied has one four wire end (one space blank) and a three wire end. Bothe the cr-562b and the sbpro are four wire plugs, so I didn`t fool with it. The question is (finally) can I just plug the three wire cord into the SBPRO and if so to which end? Or is there a driver that will give me audio cd sound throught the sbpro like I am getting from The Seventh Guest? Has anyone else out there encountered this problem? I have been watching the messages and haven`t seen any mention of this complaint. so maybe it is something peculiar to my installation. Your coments appreciated Cheers Norm --- GoldED 2.42.G1125 * Origin: NORMAL_NODE Bulletin Board System (1:153/475.7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SAM FIGUEROA Number: 10925 To: BOB BREED Date: 01/03/94 10:16a Subj: MOVIE CD REQUEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Bob, Thanks for that nice review of Encarta, I have a few subjects I would like for you to check up if ya don't mind!??? I will get back to ya, Sam Figueroa Sam's Software -> I got Encarta for Xmas. Very impressive demo of what Multi- -> media should be. MicroSoft finally did something right! -> It appears to be fairly decent in depth. As a test I had it -> look up the Rosetta Stone and Queen Nefertiti. (I'm a great one -> for testing these programs for depth -- these are two items about -> Egypt that should be mentioned.) -> Encarta passed both .. quite a bit of detail on the Rosetta -> stone, even a still picture. Nefertiti was covered, also with a -> picture of her and her King. (Not the picture you usually see of -> her tho..) --- GOMail v1.1 [DEMO] 01-20-94 * Origin: Gopher BBS (1:3622/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE RINEHART Number: 10926 To: ALL Date: 01/03/94 6:24a Subj: !free Cd catalog! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!************* For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog... If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us. We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request. CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available) Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176 Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc. Voice: (216) 296-9831 - 24 hours P.O. Box 27 Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244 Kent, Ohio 44240-0001 >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<< --- MsgToss 2.0c * Origin: Home of config.sys, Inc.-Discount CD's-Kent, Oh (1:157/479) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE RINEHART Number: 10927 To: ALL Date: 01/03/94 6:24a Subj: Cd-rom Drives+ Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ********* Refurbished Hitachi Model 3600 CD-ROM DRIVES $130 ********* ********* Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $120 ********* ********* Refurbished SCSI NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $130 ********* These units are also available needing refurbished at 50% off! Great for BBS usage, buy 8 drives and get an instant 5.44 Gigs! Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176 Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc. Voice: (216) 296-9831 - 24 hours P.O. Box 27 Data/Fax: (216) 296-2244 Kent, Ohio 44240-0001 >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<< --- MsgToss 2.0c * Origin: Home of config.sys, Inc.-Discount CD's-Kent, Oh (1:157/479) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB DUNN Number: 10928 To: TONY COVIELLO Date: 01/02/94 9:58p Subj: animals cd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TC> I AM TRYING TO GET 'THE ANIMALS <SAN DIEGO ZOO>' TO RUN, BUT I A TC> "256 COLOR MODE REQUIRED" MESSAGE. I HAVE A VGA MONITOR, WHY WON You need to install the proper video driver for your video card. It should be on the video utility disk. ■ MegaMail 2.10 #1429:If love is blind,lingerie makes great braille --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: * Glass Onion * Ansonia CT * USA * (1:141/1295) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEAN SNYMAN Number: 10929 To: RAY MATTHEWS Date: 01/02/94 10:05a Subj: t7G help needed (Again :)) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Ray! 29 Dec 93 17:20, Ray Matthews wrote to Stean Snyman: RM> Here's a hint. Every third block you step on must be purple, RM> and the last block you step on at the finish must also be the RM> third block. Thanks.... Adios Stean --- Gotcha v1.01 RT * Origin: Where Keyboards Cry, The Electro, CT, RSA (5:7102/114) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUSSELL BOYCE Number: 10930 To: KENNETH DUKE Date: 01/02/94 1:07p Subj: Mit. LU005 drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Im looking for a sound card and mit. lu005 interface for this drive.... > > anyone know of one priced right? Several of the 16 bit sound cards now support this drive directly. I know Sound Galaxy is one and I knoiw there are at least two others. --- * Origin: CUS-VT NODE #3, Newport, VT (1-802-334-2057) (1:325/301) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL CARBONELLI Number: 10931 To: ALL Date: 01/03/94 2:50a Subj: WNTD: NASA/SPACE CD-ROMS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi folks... A good friend of mine asked me to post this for him. He just recently hooked up a CD-ROM drive to his 486, and is looking for a good price on any NASA or Space-Based CD-ROMs, used or new, in the NYC/QUEENS/LI area (so they can be inspected if used before cash changes hands)... Anyone selling? 8) --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: - The Dorsai Diplomatic Mission (1:278/706) (1:278/706) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICKY BOOTH Number: 10932 To: MICHAEL GACEK Date: 01/02/94 8:49p Subj: The 7th Guest Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No __y _y__y __y_y ___y_y __y__ _y _y __y__ fill in the blanks...y is the only vowel used! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: KFS Programming -HQ- ...Mail Only... (1:170/359) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICKY BOOTH Number: 10933 To: JAMES SUMMERS Date: 01/02/94 8:49p Subj: Smartdrv and CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I have but one question. Can DOS Smartdrv Cache a CD-rOm? DOS 6.2's Smartdrv can. --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: KFS Programming -HQ- ...Mail Only... (1:170/359) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STANLEY SHEFF Number: 10934 To: ALL Date: 01/02/94 6:23p Subj: Brainex Rombrain Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Now available from The Brainex System: 1:102/737 or 1:102/739 Release Date: 12-31-93 Magic Name : ROMBRAIN ROMBRAIN - A stand alone CDROM file door. If you use a CDROM, you need this door! Keeps your cdrom file base separate from your BBS's file base. Features file search, read/transfer from archive files, multi-node, multi-CD access. Can copy cdrom files to HD for CD Changers. REQUEST - Used with Rombrain. This program will automatically copy offline file requests generated by RomBrain. The sysop just inserts the CD, and request copies files to a separate user directory on the hard drive. Users can download their files using the Request door. Magic Name: BRAINEX BRAINEX - Required to run Brainex Doors. Fast and easy way to setup DOOR and modify all Brainex Doors! Includes 1 year BBS support. MANAGER ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Brainex Doors... * Interface with: RA 2.01, GAP, PCBOARD, SPITFIRE, WWIV, WILDCAT, RBBS, or any BBS that uses DOOR.SYS. * Support Digiboard IM and FOSSIL * Support the FIFO buffers of the 16550 UART. * Speeds up to 115,200 baud * Support all communications ports * Supports CTS checking, even at 300 bps, for error free transmissions * Do not require Watchdog or CTTY * Monitor keyboard activity and caller time remaining * Sysop chat with full word wrapping * Allow the sysop to shell to DOS * Credit caller with time spent chatting or while sysop is in DOS shell * Sysop can return the caller to the BBS without the caller ever knowing the sysop is watching * Caller time can be increased or decreased * Automatic detection of multi-user system ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To try the doors online, or use your credit card to order them for your BBS, call The Brainex System at 310-275-2344 or 310-273-5234. FREQ: FILES for a complete list of current Brainex Doors! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: The Brainex System * Beverly Hills, CA * 310-275-2344 (1:102/737) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHAD REID Number: 10935 To: AL BRATLIE Date: 01/02/94 11:56a Subj: Adult CD's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No AB> JP> I'm sure it does have a long way to go. It's like the ads that AB> JP> advertise 15 XXX videos only $10!! If it sounds to good to be true, it AB> JP> usually is, and if youget anything at all, the quality is usually AB> JP> terrible, and it's the same scene over and over.. Not that I"VE ever AB> I think it was on CNN, or maybe a local channel trying to get their AB> ratings up again, but I saw something about Huster and Penthouse, and other AB> getting into the Adult CD market. Interactive 'adult' stories, movies, and AB> the like. When that stuff hits the market place, I might take a look again, AB> but the junk out there now isn't worth the time it takes to download. But some of the newer .GIF files are great. Chad * OLX 2.2 * People are always available to work in the past tense. --- QM v1.31 * Origin: The Idiot Box RBBS-PC =+> 1-800-295-2943 (1:207/703.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ALEXANDER Number: 10936 To: RICHARD MONTOYA Date: 01/02/94 10:28p Subj: SBLASTER/CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Richard Montoya to All <=- RM> I was reading in the Sound Blaster manual that it can be used as an RM> interface for a CD-ROM. Apparently some special instructions and/or RM> hardware are needed as I could not get it to work. The CD-ROM drive is RM> an older Mitsumi and came with its own card. It worked reasonably well RM> but I would like to eliminate one card from my computer just in case I RM> ever need the extra slot. Does anyone out there have any experience RM> with this subject. If so, any help would be appriciated on my part. The RM> bord is a Sound Blaster Pro. Thanks. The SBPro will only work with a Panasonic CD-ROM. If you wish to have your soundcard controll your CD-ROM, get the SB16 MultiCD. ... Data- "It IS the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man, Captain!" --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Isle of the Avatar, 918-455-8399, Tulsa, OK, 14.4k (1:170/604.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HERB ZWIRN Number: 10937 To: MIKE SHUMKO Date: 01/01/94 10:00a Subj: Nec-38 multispin Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MS>I like it fine now that it works properly, though I would prefer MS>not to have to deal with the trays or caddies. I would rather slide MS>the CD into the drive like in a car CD player, or onto a sliding tray If you get one of those, perhaps you'd like to sell me this one????? === * SLMR 2.0 * Herb Z !!!! Voice # 904-285-3377 ...!!!!! * KMail 2.96k Maranatha - A Christian BBS (904) 353/3807 - USR/DS --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: Maranatha BBS, 904-353-3807 (1:112/93) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HERB ZWIRN Number: 10938 To: ROBERT WISE Date: 01/01/94 10:04a Subj: Toshiba cd-roms Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RW>I am looking for infomation on the Toshiba Model XM-3100B. RW>If anyone has ever come across one of these, please let me know RW>in this Echo or by NetMail. As far as i can tell these drives were RW>made for IBM by Toshiba in May 1990. Yeah, try this guy. =========================================================================== BBS: TSUNAMI - Catch the Wave! Date: 05-18-93 (23:50) Number: 12563 From: RANDY CHAPEL Refer#: NONE To: ALL Recvd: NO Subj: IBM cdrom drives - new! Conf: (99) CD-ROM --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Back with just a few more IBM cdrom drives. Many of you know how good these drives are. These are NEW internal scsi units that are marketed by IBM but utilize an excellent Toshiba model 3101 cdrom drive (unchanged). They are the same drives sold in the external model 3510-001 IBM. Few drives in this price range can match either the quality or the speed - 2 tools measure identical 260-270ms access time, 190kbs data transfer. And they last FOREVER ... no returns in hundreds! I have a variety of inexpensive scsi adapters (from $39 up ) And, I can mount the drive in a beautiful, quality scsi enclosure if you prefer external (from $40 up). $279 brand new with warranty and caddy. Randy 919-870-0982 **** remember, these ran out before - call! === * PC Rockland BBS South Nyack, NY. (914) 353-2157/2538 * PostLink(tm) v1.05 ROCKLAND (#1052) : RelayNet(tm) === * SLMR 2.0 * Herb Z !!!! Voice # 904-285-3377 ...!!!!! * KMail 2.96k Maranatha - A Christian BBS (904) 353/3807 - USR/DS --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: Maranatha BBS, 904-353-3807 (1:112/93) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIERNAN HOLLAND Number: 10939 To: ALL Date: 01/03/94 1:21a Subj: PhoneBook CDROM's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone know if there is any way to keep phone companies from selling CD-ROM's with your address, phone number and name?? Reason, I'm getting fed up with businesses that think they can sell personal information to the world and make it accessible to companies and businesses and others with unknown motives. No, I don't think the world is out to get me, but I do think it is an invasion of privacy and I don't like even the idea that companies make money off of pasing my personal info around just so some junk-mailer can target his potential customers whether they are interested in the business or not. I'd propose a special information group established by the government to control the passing of information (not extreme in any way, just a regulator like the FDA, NTSC, and all those common big acronyms) by requiring that all organizations selling public information to compare their records with a list of records of all those people agreed (in general) to let anyone use thier personal information as part of a or as a whole a product for sale to other organizations. Its feasible knowing the limitations of information storage, cost and automation.. It would be just as easy as buying a c10-drive CD-ROM system for each --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Construction Net #6 * Los Alamos NM * 16800 (1:15/20) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LEE FERNANDEZ Number: 10940 To: ALL Date: 01/03/94 1:53a Subj: rebel assault Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No having problem booting game. keep getting following message: "unexpected interrupt 0D (code 3DB0) at 70:5511 TSF32: prev_tsf32 4F8C", then 11 more lines of various codes follow. sometimes if I play around with the switches I can boot it but inconsistently. The demos in the CD work fine. Have tried changing channels, interrupts and IRQs but no luck. Have a 386SX 33 w/ 6megs ram, audiowave 16aisp soundcard and audiowave doublespin cd (Panasonic 562-b). Can anyone help? Thanx. --- WM v3.10/92-0413 * Origin: The Magic Dominion 1:107/614 n.j. 908-583-7894 16.8 (1:107/614.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL KELLY Number: 10941 To: JOE RINEHART Date: 12/31/93 9:07p Subj: Cd-rom Drives+ Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (27 Dec 93) Joe Rinehart wrote to All... JR> ********* Refurbished Hitachi Model 3600 CD-ROM DRIVES $130 ********* JR> ********* Refurbished Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $120 ********* JR> ********* Refurbished SCSI NEC Model 36 CD-ROM DRIVES $130 ********* JR> These units are also available needing refurbished at 50% off! Are these SCSI by any chance? If so, I would be very interested, especially if internal! Let me know! --- PPoint 1.70 * Origin: Mike's POINT of View (1:151/106.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: M.A.L. KIRKPATRICK Number: 10942 To: ROY FUNG Date: 01/02/94 7:48p Subj: NEC CD-ROM/SCSI-PARALLEL ADAPTOR Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thank you for your reply and my apologies for being so late in returning feedback. Besides being away for the holidays, I guess I didn't answer you right away because 1) I got the problem solved, and 2) I am somewhat embarassed on what the solution seemed to be. I received another installation diskette (same files) which didn't work until I copied the latest MSCDEX.EXE onto the floppy. If my memory serves me correctly, I think I only copied the file from one partitioned hard-drive to the other. Didn't think the INSTALL would point to that file on the floppy. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: BitByters BBS, Rockland ON, 446-6234, HST, (1:163/215) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICKY BOOTH Number: 10943 To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR Date: 01/03/94 7:30a Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I'd again recommend a Panasonic CR562b (OMNICD, Lasermate...) > 'cause I have it and it's really cool. Runs the 7th Guest > smoothly, and it's easy to install. Plus it looks nice with the > tray and all :-) I've got it. The OMNI...excellent! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: KFS Programming -HQ- ...Mail Only... (1:170/359) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICKY BOOTH Number: 10944 To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR Date: 01/03/94 7:33a Subj: Good Shareware Cds Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > "CRAP?!" What the hell are you talking about? Did you come here > to join the "Night Owl Bashing Contest?" I really DO NOT believe > you have the CD. Well I have it and it's EXCELLENT, the only No, but a local bbs does, and there isn't much on it that is worth keeping. > Please stop talking about what you do not know. I've used the CD > for months, and am still finding new stuff. If you're a cry baby I know what I am talking about. Do not assume that I dont. > who goes around saying "mommy mommy the CD has **2** viruses" I never mentioned anything about virusus, I just said the cd was crap. It is low quality. A friend of mine bought the Night Owl Games CD and he was not impressed either. > a--you use Windoze and Windoze only It's just a hard drive shell....requires dos. > b--you believe every rumour you hear and do not bother to check > whether it's true. No, I've seen the whole listing of the disc, and again, it has nothing much worth keeping. --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: KFS Programming -HQ- ...Mail Only... (1:170/359) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON RUSSELL Number: 10945 To: ALL Date: 01/03/94 11:03a Subj: Double-speed problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Just got a Mitsumi double-speed CD drive. In King's Quest VI, the intro shows horizontal jitter about 2 times/sec. In Microsoft Home Software demo, it sometimes takes several seconds to respond to a mouse click. There are pauses between scenes. Are these problems due to the software being written for a single-speed drive? Is anyone else having similar experiences? --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: COMM Port One OS/2 (713) 980-9671 (1:106/2000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THE LAWMAN Number: 10946 To: KEN KIRKLEY Date: 01/03/94 10:47a Subj: Getting Out Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Just checking to see if this confenece is turned on. Have not been re -> messages for the last week. Please send me a message if this gets to -> Thanks, -> Ken -> -> --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 -> * Origin: The Glory Bound BBS - Inman, SC - 803-592-5208 (1:3652/5) Yep, you're getting out. --- WM v3.01/93-0705 * Origin: Emerald City (615) 754-4351 7 gigs, 5 nodes (1:116/39.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MATT DELCO Number: 10947 To: KENNETH DUKE Date: 01/01/94 3:16p Subj: Mit. Lu005 Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KD>Im looking for a sound card and mit. lu005 interface for this drive.... >anyone know of one priced right? Creative Labs makes a Sound Blaster MCD, which I believe is a special version of their Sound Blaster 16. It MCD stands for Multiple CD, and supports specific models of CD-ROMs made by Creative Labs, Sony, and Mitsumi. I believe the lu005 is the only Mitsumi CD-ROM supported, so your in luck. The price factor is mainly opinion. You can probably find it priced from $150-$250. Hope this helps. * OLX 2.1 TD * Press any key to continue or any other key to quit --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: ET/PPCUG BBS 503-452-1988 CD ROMs! Portland, Or1 (1:105/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MATT DELCO Number: 10948 To: JAMES SUMMERS Date: 01/01/94 3:21p Subj: Loom Cd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No EW>JS>Hello- EW>JS> Do any of you out here play the game Loom on Cd? I was very impressed >wit >JS>this game and like it very much. I have a few questions though, I have >bbec >JS>stuck and do not know what to do. If you are experienced at this game >pleas >JS>write me. I am stuck in the iron makers guild watching the man hammer aw >JS>the sword. I have listened to the coversation, I have no idea what to do >JS>Could it be something with the stick baskket up stairs? When the swordsman holds up the last sword, use the unsharpening spell on it. To get the spell, get the sharpening spell from the large wheat cutter in the glass city. You then "play" the spell backwards on the sword. With the brick stick holder, you just use the filling spell on it and get more experience. * OLX 2.1 TD * Chicken heads are the chief food of captive alligators. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: ET/PPCUG BBS 503-452-1988 CD ROMs! Portland, Or1 (1:105/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MATT DELCO Number: 10949 To: JOHN VIKSTROM Date: 01/02/94 3:17p Subj: Sound Blaster Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JV> It was originally installed in a 386. Worked just fine. I then had > the card and CD Rom transferred to my 486. This is when the annoyance >began. The sound became scratchy. It was as if the speakers picked up noise >from the CD Rom somehow. Here's a situation that happened to me. It may me the similar, or the same. When I tried putting a Sound Blaster Pro in my 486DX-33, I would always hear static. When I turned down the FM channel, the static would go away. TEST-SBP couldn't find the sound card. DOS programs couldn't use the sound card, but Windows could. After a few dozen calls, I was told that it wasn't compatible with my motherboard (which was made by OPTi.) They wouldn't tell me why, but they knew about the problem. I had to send in the Sound Card in to Creative Labs, and they fixed it for free. When I got it back, it worked fine. I kept track of the chip id numbers, and noticed they changed all but 1 chip to a different chip, and they added a quartz timer chip to the sound card. I just added a CD-ROM to it, and it works fine. Hope this helps. * OLX 2.1 TD * If this were an actual tagline, it would be funny. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: ET/PPCUG BBS 503-452-1988 CD ROMs! Portland, Or1 (1:105/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MATT DELCO Number: 10950 To: JASON WEST Date: 01/02/94 3:21p Subj: Caches Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JW>Just wondeing if anybody out there uses a software cache for there cd rom. >saw a program in the stores called "Lightning" and was wondering how well it >worked.. I tried the CacheAll if it was totally worthless.. so if anybody >has seen one working well please let me know. I've tried Lightning. For the price of the product, and the huge amount of memory, I didn't think it was worth it, especially since the preformance wasn't a large improvement. DOS 6.2 has SMARTDRV (smart drive) which now supports CD-ROMs. The change wasn't really noticible, but I use SMARTDRv to cache my Hard Disks, and for the heck of it, I keep the CD-ROM part loaded in memory. * OLX 2.1 TD * Unable to locate Coffee -- Operator Halted! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: ET/PPCUG BBS 503-452-1988 CD ROMs! Portland, Or1 (1:105/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MATT DELCO Number: 10951 To: DOUG WARREN Date: 01/02/94 3:44p Subj: Panasonic 562/563 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DW>i would like to know the difference between the panasonic 562 and 563 cdroms >i heard the 563 (creative labs omni) is the only panasonic that will >interface to the sb16 mcd card. i would like to know if this is correct sinc >i have a sb16 multicd card and want a drive that will hook directly to it. >thanks for the help. >doug warren My CD-ROM was made by Matsushita-kotobuki. I believe I heard that Matsuchita and Panasonic make the CD-ROM together. My CD-ROM is model 563-B. I read someplace that the OMNI CD is the 562, but the OMNI CD may have moved up to the 563 (my guess is the 563 is just a newer model) My 563 plugs into my Sound Blaster PRO, so if its the same (which it probably is, mine looks just like the OMNI CD, except it doesn't have the advertising "Creative" on the front) it will work in the Multi-CD, since it not only supports Creative Lab's CD-ROM (Panasonic-Matsuchita) it also supports Sony and Mitsumi. The CD-ROM I got says on the case itself says its made by Matsushita, but the cardboard box says Reveal on the outside. It was bought at Egghead Software. My guess its the same thing, but $100 less. It works fine so far. * OLX 2.1 TD * Press any key to continue or any other key to quit --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: ET/PPCUG BBS 503-452-1988 CD ROMs! Portland, Or1 (1:105/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICKY BOOTH Number: 10952 To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR Date: 01/03/94 3:08p Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > smoothly, and it's easy to install. Plus it looks nice with the > tray and all :-) Got that right! Mine even has a nice Creative labs logo on the front and the SB thing on the side, WOW! :) It's a good CD-ROM. --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: KFS Programming -HQ- ...Mail Only... (1:170/359) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICKY BOOTH Number: 10953 To: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE Date: 01/03/94 3:13p Subj: Police Quest Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > LW>Anyone know when Police Quest IV for CD-ROM is coming out?? ------^^^ He said he wanted the CD-ROM on, look | > Do you mean the _normal_ HD Version or a special CD ROM ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ Normal/Special? The HD version is the low end version. The CD-ROM version is the normal Sierra high-end game, with all talking etc. I'd never buy a non-cd sierra game... --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: KFS Programming -HQ- ...Mail Only... (1:170/359) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM SCHOOLER Number: 10954 To: THE LAWMAN Date: 01/02/94 11:17p Subj: Re: CDROM DRIVE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->> JM> I might Be interested in buying your offer if that *125.00* is ->> JM> $125.00 i am looking for a cd-rom for my network/bbs ->> ->> ->> Thanks Jeremy, but I sold it last week. ->> -!- Sqed/32 0.87/r15033 ->> ! Origin: You Are What You Is (1:3803/1.4) TL> I still have 2 mutsumi's left and both are new (one is 2 months TL> old and TL> the other is 6 months old, still have the box and all materials). You replied to the wrong person. I was selling a drive, not buying. :-) --- Sqed/32 0.87/r15033 * Origin: You Are What You Is (1:3803/1.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEREK STUTSMAN Number: 10955 To: MARC EVENS Date: 01/03/94 8:10p Subj: Rebel Assault Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ME> I also have this problem. Sometimes it works very well sometimes ME>locks up. ME> I have a 486/33, 8 Mb Ram, an SB Pro 2 Deluxe and Sony CDU31A CDROM MG> Does LucasFilm have some kind of BBS support site in the Usa to cal ME>and MG> see if some fix is available??? They sure do. There was a test-fix called REBFIX.ZIP, but the official release is called REBEL14.ZIP. It updates your version to V1.4, and also improves the joystick response a bit. The number for the Lucasarts BBS is: 1-415-257-3070 Derek Stutsman * Wave Rider 1.01 # 153 * ... If at first you don't succeed, just release a patch! --- Blue Wave/Maximus * Origin: Code 3 BBS *Lewisville,TX* 214-221-7139/436-8753 (1:124/6106) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARCEL MANZ Number: 10956 To: ALL Date: 01/02/94 7:36p Subj: Drivers CDR-521 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi All! A fried of mine is searching for the Panasonic CDR-521 Drivers. If anyone has got them or knows where to request them, should write me a message, please. Thanks! Bye bye - Marcel --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: Call NEVADA-BBS at ++41-(0)-1-730 29 10 (2:301/717) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN FOSTER Number: 10957 To: JEFF MASTERMAN Date: 12/24/93 5:56a Subj: Encyclopedia Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JM>Would someone please comment on the available encyclopedias. I am thinking JM>about buying 94'Encarta but I can get Comptons for about the same money. I JM>want to know which package has the most useful information for my daughters JM>age 10 and 13. Thanks. Jeff, I presently have Microsoft Bookshelf which has the encyclopedia, thesaurus, dictionary, world atlas, and Book Of Quotes. It has served my family quite well. I recently ordered Compton's Interactive Encylopedia and was not that impressed when comparing it to what I presently have. One of the main problems I encountered was with the video that was used with Compton's. In the lowest resolution running in Windows, the picture was rather grainy and very small. When I used a higher resolution video driver (256 colors) the picture was bigger, but my system really ran at a snail's pace. I sent Compton's back and traded for Grolier's. Basically the same problems. I have since sent it back. I would say this about the above 2 CD's: Make sure you have a very fast video card with as much RAM as possible to get the full effects. I just feel that this should be made available to the public so that they can make up their minds before ordering. BTW, I have 8 meg of RAM and my system still crawled in the higher resolution. As for the difference between Compton's and Grolier's, I would say that Grolier's is probably geared more for high school and Compton's would suit the lower grades. Just and opinion. I have read some good comments on Encarta however, I haven't actually seen it. Again, I would check out the video requirements before purchasing. This is just one user's opinion. I don't want to start any wars. (GRIN) * OLX 2.1 TD * Hug your kids at home and belt 'em in the car! --- GEcho 1.01+ITTOD!BBS * Origin: FIDONET: In Through The Out Door! (317)282-6862 14.4bps (1:231/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN FOSTER Number: 10958 To: LOUIS BERKOWITZ Date: 12/28/93 7:34a Subj: Hard Day'S Night Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LB>I recently read in a magazine that they are coming out with the movie A LB>Hard Day's Night on CD-Rom format, does anyone have this, where did you LB>get it and how is it? You can get both Mac and IBM versions from CD-ROM WAREHOUSE 1-800-237-6623 for $39 plus $3 overnight shipping. * OLX 2.1 TD * Was Jimi Hendrix's modem a Purple Hayes? --- GEcho 1.01+ITTOD!BBS * Origin: FIDONET: In Through The Out Door! (317)282-6862 14.4bps (1:231/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN FOSTER Number: 10959 To: TONY WILLIAMS Date: 12/29/93 7:30p Subj: Freeing Up Space Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TW>Does anyone know of anyway that I can access more upper memory to load some TW>other files so that I have more room in conventional? My cd-rom that I just TW>installed is running its driver in upper memory putting other drivers and TW>other files running in conventional. This causes me to have limited capacity TW>for running programs requiring 512k or more of convetional memory. Any ideas TW>Thanx Tony, you have a coulple of options if you don't want to do the grunt work yourself. If you have DOS 6.0 or higher, you can run MemoryMaker and it will analyze your current setup and then make changes to free up more lower memory. Sounds like just what you are looking for right? Well, there are better more effiecient memory managers on the market. I just purchased 386 MAX 7.0 and have found it to work quite well. I went from 540K using MemMaker to 605K using MAX. Another memory manager that I hear a lot of good things about is QEMM. I am sure you will get a lot of debate over which memory manager is the best. All I can say is that I like 386MAX. Hope this helps out. The cheapest route is by manually testing different configurations in your AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS files. A word of caution about this. Make sure you know what you are doing before messing with these two files. They can have devastating effects on your system if you screw them up. Happy New Year! * OLX 2.1 TD * He does the work of 3 men...Moe, Larry & Curly! --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: FIDONET: In Through The Out Door! (317)282-6862 14.4bps (1:231/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM GUELKER Number: 10960 To: DEREK STUTSMAN Date: 01/01/94 10:37a Subj: UFO CD Rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DS>I just picked up the "UFO" CD-Rom, and I have to say I am VERY VERY >disappointed with it! Derek, I reviewed this CD for the December issue of the Personal Computer Journal (a newspaper style computer monthly out of St. Louis) and gave it favorable remarks. You have to realize most the recorded sightings were of poor quality mainly because the filming was impromptu on amateur equipment under less than ideal circumstances. Perhaps you were expecting something along the lines of what Steven Spielberg would do? Regards, Tom Guelker --- ■ QMPro 1.51 ■ The Garage BBS (618)344-8466 USR 16.8K 14 gigabytes --- GOMail v1.2 [DEMO] 01-30-94 * Origin: JAFO! BBS Granite City, Il. 618-797-1675 1:2250/26 (1:2250/26) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE KURODA Number: 10961 To: ROB BELANGER Date: 01/03/94 2:06p Subj: NEC 3XI/SB16SCSI-2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Rob. RB> Hello out there, I am thinking of purchasing a Sound Blaster 16 ASP (SCSI-2) RB> along with a NEC 3Xi to replace my current SBPRO/Sony 31a configuration. I RB> was wondering if anyone out there has utilized this combination and would RB> appreciate any feedback regarding this configuration. As I just got my new CD-ROM drive for my Christmas I've been browsing around this echo when I came across your post. Well my combination is SB16 with SCSI II (not ASP though) and NEC Triple Spin. Atter I installed both and tested SB16, I simply run the Adaptic diskette that came with SB16 and it found my NEC drive instantly - no problem at all (I was afraid it would not fine it as the triple spin is relatively new). I bought both at the same store as the owner is a good friend of mine and I could get them at the costs but I did not purchase any other accessory as all I needed came with the box. Since I never installed CD-ROM drive by myself it should tell you how snap it is. Right now I only have several CD-ROMs I need to get some more money before I can fully test the system - but I may need a bit of memory management running some software. Have fun. ...Joe * Entered on Mon 03-Jan-94 12:01 * +Internet: joe.kuroda@canrem.com \/ Compuserve: 71054,2202 + * Check your hormones at the door. THANKS -The Management --- * RoseReader 2.10* P003138 Entered at [CRS] --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID RYDER Number: 10962 To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 01/03/94 11:29p Subj: Re: CDROM Systems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: Message entered on Jan 2,94 by DOUG CARPENTER to BORIS OSADCIW BO> US Express Mail ( Cheaper & Trackable) DC> Cheaper to ship than Fed Ex and UPS for sure, but not easier to track. Oh yes, we know how trackable your orders are, don't we Boris! They don't arrive, and can't be found later. ***David. Entered Jan 3,94 from Mississauga, Ontario. rn.1063@rose.com * PMDBM V1.75b #29 * --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE ELLISON Number: 10963 To: TOMMY VOSS Date: 01/04/94 3:33a Subj: Re: Virus Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Tommy, *** Tommy Voss said this to Dave Ellison on 12-30-93 05:51 *** -> With some of the stuff I've seen you say recently, I wouldn't be sayi [...] TV> Well Dave... That looked really rude... I like it! HAHAHA... hey I've ^^^^^^^^ hehe, cool, I was gonna send him some more through Netmail, but this s***head isn't worth the quarter! TV> done my share of playing with viruses as well as programming them... TV> hey dont worry people I've never distributed one of the ones I made Yeah, right, that's what we all say! ;) I'm in the process of creating my first right now...kinda a rip-off of a few others, but it'll work. Maybe if I hurry I can make the next Night Owl disk! TV> just like to see what I can do! :) Uh huh, yeah... ;) TV> I didn't read the message this was replieing to but what do you know TV> about viruses... anything worthwile? Oh yeah, where to get 'em, how to get 'em, how they work, what they do, how to make 'em, not too much I can talk about in here, though! You wouldn't by any chance be a VX'er yourself, or did you just get the Night Owl #10 disk? C-YA! Pariah ... NEXT TIME YOU WAVE AT ME USE MORE THAN ONE FINGER ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PETER PRASAD Number: 10964 To: WIN TRAFTON Date: 01/03/94 10:00a Subj: Re: AT bus, SCSI, and th Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Win Trafton to Mark Pentoja <=- MP> I'll be brief. MP> All CD-ROM drives require a SCSI interface. Whether you can find it You are most definetley wrong in your statement, not all require a SCSI interface, perhaps you forgot Mitsume Drives.... MP> on a sound card (i.e. Sound Blaster 16ASP, SB Pro or Pro Audio 16... MP> etc they'll advertise on box, SCSI for CD-ROM or SCSI-2..) If you opt MP> against purchasing a new card with a SCSI interface, then you'll need MP> to purchase a $15 card that connects your CD-ROM to the motherboard. Peter.......... ... Catch the Blue Wave! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Exchange OS/2 BBS Prince George V32bis (1:359/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RADI SHOURBAJI Number: 10965 To: ALL Date: 01/03/94 11:19p Subj: NEC CDR-36 & DOS 6.2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! I'm trying to get an old NEC CDR-36 CDROM drive to work with DOS 6.2. But no matter what I do, I keep getting a message that the disk is not ISO-9660 or High Sierra format. Yet, the disk is in ISO-9660 format and works fine on my OS/2 system. It's just been a long time since I played with DOS that I can't remember what if any "tricks" were involved in getting it to work. Any suggestions on how to get this to work are greatly appreciated! Radi --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219 * Origin: * Automation Central * San Jose, CA * (408) 435-AUTO (1:143/110) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF KEY Number: 10966 To: STEAN SNYMAN Date: 01/03/94 7:33a Subj: T7G Maze Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No And STEAN SNYMAN said unto MIKE GERVASI.... SS>Hello Mike! SS>25 Dec 93 22:14, Mike Gervasi wrote to Stean Snyman: SS> MG> I noticed when I was doing the Chess puzzle (the one with the SS> MG> bishops) that the rug in front of it has a map of a maze on it. SS> MG> Could this be for the one you're speaking of? SS>I figured out this IS in fact the map to the maze you have to walk SS>through.. (After you solved the CAN puzzle in the Kitchen you can SS>access the maze through the door next to the cupboard.).. But the SS>maze you walk in is NO-WHERE the same proportions than the one on the SS>floor, don't ask me why!... Maybe not, but it can still be used as a guide.. That's how I got through.. First time.. (Well, first time after seeing the rug.. before that, I had no clue..) Jeff Key Internet - jeffreykey@aol.com * CmpQwk #UNREG * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- WM v3.10/91-0237 * Origin: The Oratory BBS 12 Roms online 72,000+ Files! (1:2201/9.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VAISEY Number: 10967 To: PIOTR ADAMIAK Date: 01/03/94 3:54p Subj: Battle Chess For Sale Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I would like a copy of your CD catalogue if that is possible :) Sorry! I don't have or sell CDs. I had cross posted that in here from another conference. Sorry. --- GEcho/786 1.01+ * Origin: LakeShore Lmtd. (Rochester, NY * USA) (1:2613/353) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL DUCRE' Number: 10968 To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 01/03/94 9:30p Subj: CD Cataog Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Jim, Will you send me one of your catalogs also? Thanks... ... Catch the Blue Wave! --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: WSTPC*38K+Files*100+Echos*504-886-2157*16.8K USR DS (1:390/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE BROWN Number: 10969 To: MARC EVENS Date: 01/03/94 12:42p Subj: Rebel Assault Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >>> MARC EVENS wrote to MASSIMO GENTILINI on 12-30-93 11:22 <<< MG> Does LucasFilm have some kind of BBS support site in the Usa to cal MG> see if some fix is available??? ME> If you have some news, I hope that you'll warn me! Lucas Arts BBS: 1-415-257-3070 REBEL14.ZIP. * WaveRdr 1.02 Beta # 101 * Need a hat and thigh-high BOOTS for that one! --- WM v2.05/91-0207 * Origin: The Byte Exchange, HST DS/16.8 504-735-0136 (1:390/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 10970 To: KIERNAN HOLLAND Date: 01/05/94 8:20a Subj: PhoneBook CDROM's Refer: 13425 Read: NO Private: No -> Does anyone know if there is any way to keep phone companies -> from selling CD-ROM's with your address, phone number and name?? Get an unlisted phone number... tim co-moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 10971 To: JOSH LONG Date: 12/27/93 7:23p Subj: Re: Big Sky Special Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL> JL> Big Sky Rom I - The Downloader's Rom $26.00 >JL> >JL> Big Sky Rom II - Top Drawer (Pre-Orders) $19.00 >JL> >JL> Top Drawer will soon be released! This disc has our highest >JL> recommendation for a top notch BBS Ready CD-Rom. You will not find >JL> a better shareware disc for your money! JL>Why does the newer, 'highest recomendation" better disc cost less? The producers of Big Sky want to get as many people as possible to see the discs first hand, even if there is less profit that way. The price on future discs will probably return to around $26 once everybody knows how good they are. At $19, you can't beat it. Computer Works Jim... CD-Rom Sales! (205) 793-4481 Voice (205) 671-0092 BBS Online Orders, File Lists, Catalogs --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 10972 To: KENT TIMM Date: 12/27/93 7:40p Subj: Popular Titles Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: KENT TIMM Subject: Popular Titles >JL> Mayo Clinic...............$26 >JL> The Family Doctor.........$24 >What system is requirded for these? (memory, video, etc.) 386sx or above, 2 mb ram, hard drive, 500k+ free ram, VGA or SVGA KT>JL> GIFs Galore......................$16 >Rated ?, kinds/stc. Nothing serious. The adult gifs are seldom combined with general purpose gifs. Swimsuit is about as hard core as these get. <G> Jim... Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! (205) 793-4481 Voice (205) 671-0092 BBS Online Orders, File Lists, Catalogs --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 10973 To: JERRY MURPHY Date: 01/03/94 2:19a Subj: Re: Mitsumi cd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JM> Being a man of the world, and knowledgeable on most JM> aspects of this hobby, perhaps you know of any possible JM> suitable substitutes for MSCDEX? I'm trying to make my JM> system as bug-free (read Microshaft- free) as I possibly JM> can, as soon as I can. I've upgraded to OS/2, installed JM> that SUPERIOR PCDOS 6.1, and off'ed all the MS junk I JM> could find anywhere it hid in my system. JM> Except for that dratted MSCDEX! JM> What suggestions do you have, short of trashing the JM> Mitsumi (which works really well ... and is paid for)? I'm not sure I follow you. Are you saying that you run OS/2 most of the time, but sometimes boot to PC-DOS 6.1? Or are you saying that you run a PC-DOS 6.1 VMB under OS/2? If the former is the case, I assume it is because some of your applications absolutely require a virgin DOS boot? If not, then why are you booting PC-DOS at all? If the second scenario is the case, then why do you have to bother? A little more information might help a great deal for us to be able to come up with a good solution for you. The bottom line question is, why do you need something other than a regular VDM under OS/2? MSCDEX is not required under a VDM. Les --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: GUI? Ptui!!! --- Last Chance Pt 4 (1:387/800.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 10974 To: JERRY MURPHY Date: 01/03/94 2:28a Subj: Re: Mitsumi cd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LM>If you are running PC-DOS under OS/2, you don't need MSCDEX. It is only LM>necessary when you boot a DOS as opposed to an OS/2 system. JM> That's the case here. I use the OS/2 side of the system JM> when I can, but some of my applications are done in JM> straight DOS. I have neither the time nor the desire to JM> re-write the many BAT files, for instance. It ain't broke, JM> I'm not going to fix it. But that is not really an issue. If batch files are the only problem, then there is no problem at all. A regular VDM will work just fine. In fact, just rename the .BAT to .CMD, and much of the processing can be had under an OS/2 command line, allowing multitasking and various other system enhancements. I think you may be a bit confused, or else I really don't understand the nature of your problems. JM> "Running PC-DOS under OS/2"; JM> what a curious phrase! I think you meant "running DOS JM> *apps* under OS/2," no? I doubt it. From your statement, you apparently do not understand the difference between a VMB and a VDM, or that batch files will run precisely the same under either just as it would under a DOS boot. I *THINK* we need to clarify your position a bit. Once again, can you give us the EXACT problems you are having, the name and function of the applications involved, and perhaps even the sections of any batch files where the problem is occurring? Also, be certain that the .ADD driver is being loaded properly in Config.Sys, along with the lines DEVICE=C:\OS2\TESTCFG.SYS DEVICE=C:\OS2\DOS.SYS MEMMAN=SWAP,PROTECT PROTECTONLY=NO DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VCDROM.SYS DEVICE=C:\OS2\OS2CDROM.DMD /Q IFS=C:\OS2\CDFS.IFS /Q I am seriously skeptical that there is a reason for you to have DOS, even PC-DOS, on your system at all. It may indeed be the case, but nothing you have so far mentioned requires it. Les --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: GUI? Ptui!!! --- Last Chance Pt 4 (1:387/800.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 10975 To: JERRY MURPHY Date: 01/03/94 3:45a Subj: Re: Mitsumi cd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JM> Thanks anyhow, but I already use MITFX001.ADD in the OS/2 JM> side. That should be all you need. JM> But I need a replacement for MSCDEX for when I am using JM> PCDOS 6.1 directly, as I need to do at times. Once again, when you say "directly", do you mean a DOS boot, or a PC-DOS VMB under OS/2? Also, why do you need to do so, in the first place? JM> fine operating system, but it is only one of two under JM> which I must operate. Why? There are indeed certain circumstances where this is true, but unless you are running certain games or a few other rare programs that must use their own internal 386 memory managers, you should be able to use a VDM, or at most a VMB. JM> I spent a ton of money on JM> enhancements to this machine for certain programs. I JM> don't feel the need to just throw it all away and rewrite JM> a LOT of files, just because I deliberately trashed JM> MS-DOS. Why would you have to rewrite anything? If you are talking about batch files, then there is no reason to rewrite anything under a VDM. There MAY be good reason to do some tweaking if you wish to run under the OS/2 command line as a .CMD file. The OS/2 command interpreter (CMD.EXE) will interpret every line of your batch file in precisely the same fashion as COMMAND.COM. However, if running under the OS/2 command line, there are any number of possible enhancements available, including multithreading and multitasking. When running under a VDM, the command interpreter *IS* COMMAND.COM, although I heartily suggest replacing both COMMAND.COM and CMD.EXE with 4DOS.COM and 4OS2.EXE, respectively. None of this has any bearing on your batch files as they stand now, however, as they will be interpreted virtually identically under all of the four mentioned command interpreters. The bottom line is that there is no reason to dump anything, and while rewriting batch files is an option and in fact may be desirable, it is in no way required under OS/2, whether you use a VDM, a VMB, or the OS/2 command line. I so far see no reason why one or more of these will not suit your needs, or why you need PC-DOS (or MS-DOS) at all. JM> I don't have the time, either. What I have, JM> works very well; not ANY of it is whinedoze or MS-related JM> except for that driver. I just don't like the queasy JM> stomach I have when I recall it's MScdex on the CD-ROM. Well, I would tend to agree about Mickey Slop products, but what time is required? Yes, rewriting the batch files to perform optimally under an OS/2 command line might take a few minutes here and there, but there is no need to rewrite anything under a VMB. Additionally, tweaking the batch files to perform optimally under either 4OS2 or 4DOS can reap huge rewards in some cases, minor improvements in others, but is in no way required. One caveat if you do decide to upgrade to 4DOS/4OS2: there are some features in COMMAND.COM that have been busted since version 1.0, and some .BAT file writers have taken advantage of those features and their busted nature. 4DOS/4OS2 corrects many of those features so that they work properly, but in a few cases this causes some batch files to work differently, and perhaps unexpectedly. If this is a real concern to you (it is a fairly rare problem), before upgrading to 4DOS/4OS2, send me your batch files via netmail, and I will look at them. That last paragraph may sound more alarming than it should, so I'll give you an example. When evaluating a wildcard, such as *, COMMAND.COM is rather brain-dead, and places the file 110.txt before the files 12.txt, 20.txt, etc. Similarly, 20.txt and 11.txt come before 3.txt. This is obviously not very smart, but some authors have taken advantage of this broken feature. 4DOS properly aligns the files in correct alphanumeric order, with 2.txt coming before 111.txt, and so forth. Usually, this just means that your files will be processed in a reasonable and readable order, rather than in a truly silly, almost haphazard fashion, but there is a slight possibility that one of your batch files actually objects to getting the file expansions in the correct order. Usually, fixing the problem just means making the batch file SIMPLER, as it was probably written that way to correct the bug in COMMAND.COM. Most batch files just live with the bug, however, and won't really care if the order is correct or not. Your eyes will thank you, though, the longest day you live. Les --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: GUI? Ptui!!! --- Last Chance Pt 4 (1:387/800.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ULLMER Number: 10976 To: CHAD REID Date: 01/03/94 3:03a Subj: Re: Lots 'O Questions! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JU> All the games I have require at least 10 Meg. on the HD. Two JU> of them take close to 20 meg. The only CD I ever saw that didn't JU> require files on the HD was a PC-Sig shareware disk I got a few JU> years back. CR> I thought that was the point of the CD, to get better quality while CR> using less space, your using less space, it's taking the same amount CR> if you got it on disk. You do get better quality, sound, pictures, etc. No way all the data on the CD could be stored on a HD, unless you get into multi-gigabyte storage. The stuff on the disk is used to made the game run without delays, sound w/o breakups and scratching, storage of saved games, and the like. ... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Thunderbird (1:387/603) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 10977 To: RICK PEDLEY Date: 01/03/94 6:25p Subj: Re: Lantastic & cd-rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LR> This will indeed work, but from personal experience, I know LR> that it is slow and will not work with many programs, such as LR> Grolier's and Microsoft Bookshelf, unless you purchase the LR> network versions of those softwares (MUCHO diniero!). However, LR> there is a shareware solution on the Lantastic BBS itself that LR> works much better, called CD-SHARE.EXE. I find this an LR> excellent DOS based LAN solution. RP> What does CD-SHARE offer that Lantastic by itself won't RP> do? I have version 4.1 BTW, is this a 5.0-specific RP> utility? Thanks for the info. Several things. In the first place, I would say that qualitatively, it was much faster and more efficient than the sharing services offered in 4.x. I haven't compared 5.x with it directly, but I suspect that it may be true there, as well. Secondly, (if I recall) it allows a machine that is not a network server to be a CD-ROM server. <brief check of .DOC file> Yes, that is correct. The CD server machine(s) can be nondedicated workstations that are not network servers, they can be dedicated network servers, and non-dedicated CD servers, or they can be non-dedicated network servers and dedicated CD servers. Note that the system will work with any NETBIOS compatible system, including Novell. Thirdly, the program includes a CD-ROM cache, which seems to work perfectly well with Hyperdisk, and does a better job of caching the CD-ROM's. Fourthly, Lantastic (and Novell, etc) will only supply a drive to the application. IOW, MSCDEX provides a drive specification for the server, and the network utility allows that logical drive to be presented as a logical drive to the workstation. However, neither MSCDEX nor the native drivers are available to the workstation. Some applications require MSCDEX, and some will talk directly to the native drivers. CD-Share supplies a virtual low level driver for the workstation, so that MSCDEX can be run on the workstation, and programs like Grolier's and MS Bookshelf will run without purchasing network versions. No, it is not a 5.0 specific utility. It should work with any LANBIOS compatible system Les --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: GUI? Ptui!!! --- Last Chance Pt 4 (1:387/800.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB HAMILTON Number: 10978 To: JUAN LUIS PASTOR Date: 01/02/94 5:38p Subj: CD-I Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Can anybody explain me what is CD-I about? I bought one - mostly because it was on sale. The unit is quite a bit like a Nintendo in most ways. It uses a joy stick for input (optional track ball for kids). The CD's that it will take are mostly games but there is also an interactive Encylopedia. I'm told this thing will play audio CD's and will play Kodak Photo-CD's as well. I have not found any way to interface the CDI player to a computer - nor any reason to want to do so. My Mitsumi CD for the computer didn't seem to like the CDI disks. I couldn't get a directory of the disks at all. If you see a CDI game you can't live without or if you want to get a Photo-CD player that does more than home slides, it's a good choice. Otherwise, give CDI a pass. Bob. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Shadowland Regina, Sk. Canada (306)789-1899 (1:140/119) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB HAMILTON Number: 10979 To: BRYAN ANSLOW Date: 01/02/94 5:59p Subj: Windows and PC's Cr*p Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Your message about PC hardware, software and the generally poor state of the "art" - in particular with CD's and Windows - is right on target. I just can't believe how bad this software is! And hardware is terrible as well. My favorite bit of junk is my Colorado tape drive. Marked boldly with a 250MB sticker, this 120MB backup drive is total junk. And I should know... I own two of them. Last night I took a Dysan tape and formatted it. After 2 hours, the unit said "100% complete". Then I start a backup and I'm told "Tape is not formatted". I switch to another tape that's reliable and get the message "Data error reading drive C:". Oh there's a problem for sure, but it ain't the disk drive. Somewhere, my sound blaster, modem, mouse, dual floppies and CD player are sending strange signals to smartdrive, double space and MSCDEX to confuse my poor Dumbo 250. Sigh. But I think we are drifting off topic. Bob. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Shadowland Regina, Sk. Canada (306)789-1899 (1:140/119) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB HAMILTON Number: 10980 To: DAVE ELLISON Date: 01/02/94 6:05p Subj: Night Owl 10 Virus!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > DR> What's your involvement with Richard, anyway? Are you lovers? > Damn, thanks for clearing that up! I've been wondering for > days why he kept making an a** out of himself! Looks to me as if this "discussion" has degenerated to name calling and insults. I'm a long time supporter of the Night Owl series. I have purchased each Night Owl from version 4 to 10. The CD's are well put together (mostly) but the complaint that a commercial CD shouldn't have a virus on it is justified. It IS possible to scan each file for a virus. Now commercial software... that's a problem I wouldn't want to deal with. Some hacked commercial software is uploaded and looks very much like shareware - right down to the registration form. Bob. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Shadowland Regina, Sk. Canada (306)789-1899 (1:140/119) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KENSHIN SAKURA Number: 10981 To: MICHAEL GACEK Date: 01/03/94 1:51a Subj: Re: The 7th Guest. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Quoting Michael Gacek to All *** MG> Does anyone know how to solve the puzzle in the kitchen. The one MG> with the MG> cans. I can not seem to figure it out. I don't want the answer, MG> just a clue MG> if any one know. Thanks, Well, I found that to be virtually impossible without looking at the cluebook provided within the game. If you read the cluebook in the den a second time, it will give you a synonym for the phrase that you are suppose to figure out. Try thinking of as many words that only have the letter 'Y' as a vowel. A dictionary would help, unless you have a good vocabulary unlike me. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: The Empire of the Rising Sun - San Francisco, CA (1:125/220) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM SCHOOLER Number: 10982 To: STEVE MANN Date: 01/03/94 10:22p Subj: Goliers V6 and MS Encarta Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> I don't think the quality of the text differs a great >> amount between the two so I'd go for Encarta. SM> Many, including myself, would disagree with you. They're both SM> excellent but most agree the depth of information is better on SM> Groliers. I also own Both Steve. And I agree. Encarta is nice, but it's a lot of fluff. When I need to do serious research, I go to the Grolier's. --- Sqed/32 0.87/r15033 * Origin: You Are What You Is (1:3803/1.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB GUTHRIE Number: 10983 To: JOHN ULLMER Date: 01/03/94 9:56p Subj: Re: New Nec Cd Rom Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting John Ullmer to Bernard Zephro <=- -=> Quoting Bernard Zephro to John Ullmer <=- BZ> Do you know if this NEC 3x drive will work using the new Soundblaster BZ> 16 SCSI-2 as the controller as opposed to using a separate SCSI BZ> controller. Pardon my intrusion, but I just installed a new Soundblaster 16 ASP SCSI-2 with a NEC 3Xi Internal CD-ROM. So far, every thing works great! The only hitch has been the Audio cable from the NEC to the Soundblaster. This is Only required to play Audio CD's thru the SB-16, as the CD-ROM audio goes thru the data cable, which is supplied. NEC refers cable request to Cables-to-Go, which has a $50 minimum, or adds $5 to the $15 price, plus shipping. Creative Labs referred me to TTS Multimedia Systems (800)887-4968 which was about $7 cheaper. $13 + shipping. Should have the cable tomorrow, and try it out. If you mail order the card or the CD-ROM, call in the order for the cable and they should arrive together. Installation was straight forward, instructions were good, and the Adaptec Easy-SCSI installation set everything up automatically. During installation, the 16-bit DMA did not work correctly with my motherboard's DMA controller, but this was documented as a possible problem, and the setup software made it easy to re configure for 8-bit. I had much more trouble figuring out how to re configure DOOM for the Soundblaster after running it with the PC Speaker. (Rerun the DOOM installation setup and choose Soundblaster). Now I just have to figure out how to use all of the features and utilities, and dig thru the stack of documentation. :-) bob ... Take my advice, I don't use it anyway. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: THE MADHATTER'S WORLD EULESS, TX (1:130/705) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 10984 To: AL BRATLIE Date: 01/02/94 2:37p Subj: Adult CD's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No AB> The BBS I use had several 'Adult CD's' on line. I must say that I AB> was VERY dissapoonted with them. There were a lot of GIF's on them, but AB> most of them (80%+) were low resolution/quality and had BBS ads in them. Certainly a lot of them have BBS ads in them. But in most cases, you could largely remove those with a little time and a decent paint program (like Tempra Pro), if you really cared. AB> As for the animations, I think there are only about 20 animations out there AB> in BBS land. A lot of the time you see the same file, with only the filenam AB> changed. Or you get a shorter/longer clip of the same animation file. You've clearly not looked around. On the Seedy ROM set's disk 6, there are 232 .GL files, 95 .DL files, and 119 .FLI files. Virtually none of those are duplicates of each other. I agree that a good videotape still beats (excuse the expression) a typical computer animation all hollow, but there's still a lot of interest in scanned pictures and computer animations. Part of it is (I suppose) the ongoing novelty of seeing computers doing distinctly non-computerlike things (remember the old playmate images made of X's we used to have on decks of punched cards?). And part of it (nowadays) is that computer images in high-res are significantly clearer and sharper than any regular television image can be. * SLMR 2.1 * --- WM v2.07/92-0654 * Origin: CAD Connection - Montesson, FR 33 (1) 39-52-98-54 (2:320/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 10985 To: BAYANI CUSTODIO Date: 01/02/94 2:43p Subj: Advice, please... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BC>With an SCSI type you can move it around from machine to machine as BC>long as they have an SCSI adapter while others depend on a proprietary BC>board requires major work. You could move around other non-SCSI drives too, as long as you have a (super-cheap) controller board for each in each machine (which you're presuming, too). The only question is whether you have an external connector on the interface board or not (but you could take off an adjacent slot cover and just pass the (cheap) cable out the back of the machine, too). But in any case, the whole thing about sharing a CD-ROM drive by moving it physically between multiple machines is becoming sorta silly anyway, with the decreasing price of CD-ROM drives (now at just over the $200 level, even for double-speed drives) and the increasing availability of LANs that permit you to share a CD-ROM drive, even though it's physically installed in another machine. BC>SCSI drives are more a plug and play also BC>with better re-sale posibilities. Speed is also a consideration with BC>some. Sure, but non-SCSI drives are now double-speed too, and there's no real inherent advantage to SCSI in this area. The big difference is simply that SCSI costs so much more for the controller card. And the inexpensive Panasonic CR-562B already allows chaining up to four drives per controller card. * SLMR 2.1 * --- WM v2.07/92-0654 * Origin: CAD Connection - Montesson, FR 33 (1) 39-52-98-54 (2:320/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 10986 To: ALL Date: 01/02/94 2:52p Subj: LD-R? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JW>Also, is there such a thing as LD-ROM (LaserDisc ROM)?!? I remember JW>reading something about it a looong time ago, but haven't heard anything JW>about it since. Laserdiscs? 50GB per disk? <G> What I would _love_ to find for a project I'm working on would be a writeable (-once) Laser Videodisc. It would seem like CD-R could be simply scaled up and allow making a machine that could make one-off (CAV, in my case) laser videodiscs. Sure would be handy for the project I'm working on!!! :-) * SLMR 2.1 * --- WM v2.07/92-0654 * Origin: CAD Connection - Montesson, FR 33 (1) 39-52-98-54 (2:320/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 10987 To: DICK CRAVENS Date: 01/02/94 3:18p Subj: CD ROM INFO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DC>If you actually believe that everyone else in the world thinks, works DC>and learns as you do, then dream on, but the reality is that a LARGE DC>percentage of people need a GUI to be productive with a computer DC>quickly. IBM, Xerox, Microsoft and Apple have done a lot of research to DC>back this up. Actually, the majority of the productivity increase comes from a consistent menu structure and control key structure, not from the interface being specifically graphic. And I'll point out that SOME people (those who are visually handicapped) are often COMPLETELY excluded from the use of computers by GUIs, while their voice-output devices HAD BEEN allowing them to use text-mode software. :-(( DC>It's not realistic for individuals or companies to purchase multiple DC>machines for multiple tasks, at any price, when applications must share DC>information for local processing, You obviously don't know much about how cheap LANs are. Little Big LAN costs just $75 and allows sharing CD-ROM drives, hard drives, floppy drives, even RAM disks across inexpensive serial, parallel, ARCnet or TCNS, even Ethernet (ugh) links. Once you share the monitor and keyboard (by a simple cheap switch) and get rid of the local hard drive, dedicating a little inexpensive processor to a specific task becomes quite practical indeed. Example: 386DX-40 motherboard and CPU $100 4Mb DRAM (probably could use 1Mb) $172 low profile case/power supply $ 48 I/O controller card $ 10 ARCnet card $ 40 floppy drive for booting $ 35 VGA card $ 32 Total cost for 4Mb nodal processor $432 Total cost for 1Mb nodal processor $278 approx. Note that the 1Mb processor, at least, costs less to buy outright than what it would cost a typical company to keep one minimum-wage employee on the payroll for one or two weeks. So what's this nonsense about dedicating processors to tasks not being realistic!!?? Also note that having more processors gives you (conveniently) extra bays into which you can install CD-ROM drives (for example, hard drives work here too). Therefore you avoid possible power supply problems, interrupt conflict problems, number-of-bay problems, number-of-drive problems, and so forth. Without having to buy super-expensive and risky (all eggs in one basket) CD-ROM changers to try to put all the discs online to just one machine (and you also don't have access problems when multiple people try to access different discs in parallel, either). DC>or the user must change from one task DC>to the other quickly (by quickly I mean instantaneously, without having DC>to move physically to another machine). I reach across my desk and flip a switch, which connects my screen and keyboard to a different machine. What's more, each task continues at FULL speed, since it doesn't have to share just one overworked processor. DC>So in our business, we are more productive with a single machine DC>multitasking, and a GUI is the best answer for us. I'm very sure it's Fine, at least you (below) recognize that many other people will find that other approaches can be more practical and productive than the rather special case you found yourself in. DC>not the answer for hundreds of thousands of our customers, but for the DC>other few hundred thousand it is, and we have to know both. DC>BTW, even if it were economically feasible to have separate machines, DC>and technically desirable, we don't have room in our cubes!! Again, nonsense. There are slick little low-profile stackable cases being made nowadays which would give you two or three (maybe even four) processors in probably less space than you presently use for your one. * SLMR 2.1 * --- WM v2.07/92-0654 * Origin: CAD Connection - Montesson, FR 33 (1) 39-52-98-54 (2:320/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 10988 To: ALL Date: 01/02/94 3:42p Subj: Looking for CD-ROMs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I'm looking for (at good prices, please) the following CD-ROMs: Wayzata Font Pro Vol. 2 (and up, if any) So Much Shareware 3 ...also other good shareware discs that are inexpensive and BBS-ready with (preferably) multi-line file descriptions. I already bought the Software Vault Gold/Windows/Games discs and the latest Simtel disc. You can leave a message for me here or fax me at (33)(1) 43.36.87.22 (in Paris, France). * SLMR 2.1 * --- WM v2.07/92-0654 * Origin: CAD Connection - Montesson, FR 33 (1) 39-52-98-54 (2:320/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 10989 To: RON FINDLING Date: 01/02/94 6:56p Subj: CD drives for everyone Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RF>>RF>Unfortunately, you're mainly talking about "cheapo" drives that are RF>>RF>getting out of date, and when one adds in the cost of the interface... RF>>RF>nope, we're not there yet... RF>>The Mitsumi is going here (WITH interface card) for $171 and I'm RF>>currently getting even the new caddyless double-speed MPC-2 Panasonic RF>>CR-562, with interface card, for about $220. So we ARE there. NOW. RF>Hmmm, it does sound better than I thought, but I still don't think RF>we'll reach that stage until such drives are included as standard RF>equipment on practically *all* new PCs, just like floppy drives are now. You can expect that status to be reached by (probably before) the end of 1994. In any case, anybody who buys a PC nowadays and does NOT have a CD-ROM drive (at least SOMEWHERE on at least one of their computers) ought to feel embarassed. As for FORCING people to buy one on EVERY machine though, I don't necessarily agree that THAT is a good idea. Putting one (or more) somewhere onto a LAN is perhaps quite adequate for many users (and, to be honest, a lot of businesses... simple data entry functions for example... really don't need one at all). And they're still a lot more expensive than floppy drives are. * SLMR 2.1 * --- WM v2.07/92-0654 * Origin: CAD Connection - Montesson, FR 33 (1) 39-52-98-54 (2:320/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KARSTEN ROSE Number: 10990 To: JOE RINEHART Date: 12/29/93 4:27p Subj: cdlist.zip Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1114 * Origin: New pointnumber 2:242/1011.14!!! (2:242/1011.14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RALPH LINDEMANN Number: 10991 To: ALL Date: 12/29/93 12:00p Subj: Re: CD cache Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello everybody, does anybody have a really good CD Cache program??? I'm using Hyperdisk right now. Another question: How can I speed up the Data Transfer Rate on my Toshiba XM-3401TA (SCSI) using it with an Adaptec 1542C ? It's actually pretty lame. Something like 330 KB. Please help. CU Ralph -- ** ** --- CrossPoint v2.92 * Origin: Skaax (2:242/1216.7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KARSTEN ROSE Number: 10992 To: JULIEN PIERRE Date: 12/30/93 12:25p Subj: REBFIX.ZIP Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1114 * Origin: New pointnumber 2:242/1011.14!!! (2:242/1011.14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE ANTES Number: 10993 To: BRIAN ECKBLAD Date: 12/30/93 7:10p Subj: Omni Cd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BE> something like that" When I try to load the driver is says NOT ENOUGH DRIVE BE> LETTERS AVAILABLE. Well I can not get in touch with Creative Labs Tech I had the same problem a couple of times. I have a Sony CDU-31A hooked up to my DX/2 66. I read my config.sys and found this line: LASTDRIVE=C I really felt like an idiot, as I had rechecked the connections, reseated the controller card, and left an E-Mail to our ADP support team. Hope that's all the problem is :) --- FastEcho+SBBS+InterMail * Origin: The Silverado <-> Heidelberg, Germany v.32bis (2:246/9717) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE ANTES Number: 10994 To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 12/31/93 4:07p Subj: Corel 4 For Sale Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SR> For Sale, CorelDraw Ver 4 CD Version, includes three disks SR> complete.......asking $110.00, but no REASONABLE offer refused. SR> * Origin: ALASKAN SOURDOUGH,Rothman's LENS UNLIMITED,Fbks (1:355/38.6) I'd love to take that off your hands. I just got ver 3, and Corel wants more than that to upgrade it! From what I've seen in demos, the changes are improvements that I can take advantage of. How do you want to handle the exchange? Can't exactly meet a the Captain Bartlett, can we? Drop me a line here, or Steve Antes HQ USAREUR & 7TH Army CMR 420, BOX 2032 APO, AE 09036 If you're really of a mind, you can call me at 49-6221-761105, but the cost from Alaska to Germany is horrendous. I suppose the principles of bartering require me to offer you $100, but I really want this program (if ya know what I mean.) --- FastEcho+SBBS+InterMail * Origin: The Silverado <-> Heidelberg, Germany v.32bis (2:246/9717) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE ANTES Number: 10995 To: JOE RINEHART Date: 12/31/93 4:35p Subj: !Free Cd Catalog! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!************* JR> Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org Love a copy. Can I ftp it? If not, Steve Antes HQ USAREUR & 7TH Army CMR 420, Box 2032 APO, AE 09063 --- FastEcho+SBBS+InterMail * Origin: The Silverado <-> Heidelberg, Germany v.32bis (2:246/9717) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE ANTES Number: 10996 To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 12/31/93 5:05p Subj: Corel 4 For Sale Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SR> For Sale, CorelDraw Ver 4 CD Version, includes three disks, Disk one Progra SR> and Clipart and Disk #2 Corel Tour. Also Rev B Patch CD to upgrade to lates SR> Version with all latest bug fixes. All three CD's with manuals SR> complete.......asking $110.00, but no REASONABLE offer refused. I just don' SR> like Version 4. I'm very happy with Version Two and I feel that I made a SR> mistake by buying this. I don't like the roll-ups and the new spell checker SR> doesn't seem to be worth the upgrade to me. Version two is, IMHO much more SR> user friendly and quicker tp use. I've removed all of Ver 4 from my system SR> and doubt if I'll ever upgrade past two. Leave NetMail or call (907) 474-06 SR> SR> --- FD 2.00 SR> * Origin: ALASKAN SOURDOUGH,Rothman's LENS UNLIMITED,Fbks (1:355/38.6) SR> --- FastEcho+SBBS+InterMail * Origin: The Silverado <-> Heidelberg, Germany v.32bis (2:246/9717) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JON STOCKILL Number: 10997 To: CLIVE CARMOCK Date: 12/22/93 11:02a Subj: Panasonic 562B Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Does anyone know if software to enable audio CD's to > be played in a Panasonic 562B CD ROm drive exist, and > if so where I might be able to get them? If you want to run it under windows, then media player should work just fine. If not I have a cd player program for DOS which I got with my SBPRO, so I could upload that somewhere for you if you like. (It's worth a try innit?) > When using this drive with a Soundblaster 16 is > CDMKE40.SYS the correct driver? Yup, that's the multi session driver for a 562B I think. ___ _ | (_' ._|on ._)tockill --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Ops Wing - Jon's Point Off Babble (2:250/601.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JON STOCKILL Number: 10998 To: TONY CORKERY Date: 12/22/93 11:04a Subj: CorelDRAW V3 CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I realise that the Mitsumi only accesses the first > 600MB but there seems > to be vast tracts of the CD I can't get too. It either > takes ages for > the drive to read the directory or it seems to spin > forever with nothing > happening. > Has anybody had similar problems with this CD or a > similar spec drive? Yup, I had problems with the minerva 5 CDROM, due to exactly the same problem. The answer? Either put up with it or buy a newer drive. There's not a lot you can do about it. (Sorry to bring you the bad news) ___ _ | (_' ._|on ._)tockill --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Ops Wing - Jon's Point Off Babble (2:250/601.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADAM KNOWLES Number: 10999 To: CLIVE CARMOCK Date: 12/23/93 11:56p Subj: Panasonic 562B Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Clive! 20 Dec 93 23:51, Clive Carmock wrote to All: CC> Does anyone know if software to enable audio CD's to be played in a CC> Panasonic 562B CD ROm drive exist, and if so where I might be able to get CC> them? Yup! Came on your installation disk as a matter of fact (You REALLY SHOULD read the Read.Me file. It has some weird name that i can't remember, but the read.me file tells you what it's called in the first few pages. CC> When using this drive with a Soundblaster 16 is CDMKE40.SYS the correct CC> driver? Haven't the faintest idea on that score! CC> Thanks Hope i helped! ByesyBye! __ )--(DAM --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: The Addamz Family Point of Doom... (2:250/102.8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARCEL EVANS Number: 11000 To: CLIVE CARMOCK Date: 12/22/93 12:56p Subj: Panasonic 562B Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No HI Clive, CC>When using this drive with a Soundblaster 16 is CDMKE40.SYS CC>the correct driver? We don't support the 562b so I'm not sure. I do have some 563 drivers on our BBS though, which someone uploaded... you might want to compare them with what you already have. CC>Does anyone know if software to enable audio CD's to be CC>played in a Panasonic 562B CD ROm drive exist, and if so The Easiest way to test it is under windows... Load the MCI CD AUDIO Driver that came with windows and then play a cd using the Media player. If you hear nothing but the drive lights up, try connecting some speakers or earphones directly to the CD ROM Drive unit. If you're getting audio that way then you need to connect the CD Audio out from the drive to the CD Audio In connector on the Sb16 See ya --- * Origin: The PC SoundTrak: (UK)+743 360287 (2:2504/100.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CLIVE CARMOCK Number: 11001 To: MARCEL EVANS Date: 12/22/93 11:40p Subj: Panasonic 562B Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ME>We don't support the 562b so I'm not sure. I do have some ME>563 drivers on our BBS though, which someone uploaded... you ME>might want to compare them with what you already have. Thanks Marcel. I've got the more up to date drivers now - from your BBS - version 4.01, which are later than the version I had, and it does indeed include an audio player. The straneg thing is this: First time only got sound trhough the headphone socket on the drive. But audio out of the drive IS connected to CD in on the sb16. I then played with sb16mix and got sound from the soundblaster. After rebooting the machine I cannot repeat that - whatever I do to the CD ROM and master volume levels on sb16mix and the windows version - no sound from the drive via the SB16, but it did work ONCE :-) Can anyone confirm for me what the most up to date version number of the Panasonic 562B drivers actually are? Cheers Clive --- * Origin: The PC SoundTrak: (UK)+743 360287 (2:2504/100.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY CORKERY Number: 11002 To: PAUL SMITH Date: 12/23/93 1:26p Subj: Re: CorelDRAW V3 CD Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No 21-Dec-93, Paul Smith wrote to Tony Corkery Subject: Re: CorelDRAW V3 CD PS> TC> I realise that the Mitsumi only accesses the first 600MB but there PS> Rubbish! I have a Mitsumi and it reads my GigaByte Gold CD disk which is PS> 700+ megs. I'm glad to hear you have had a positive experience of reading large disks but the general consensus in the echo a while back was that the Mitsumi has difficulty in accessing large disks. Meanwhile I am still unable to install from the CorelDRAW CD or read quite a few of the files. The other CD's I have don't come anywhere near capacity; the largest being Microsoft Dinosaurs at approx 400Megs. I am therefore still a little baffled by the problem. Cheers Tony C. --- TerminateMail * Origin: Life is like a command line without /? (2:2504/100.3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARCEL EVANS Number: 11003 To: CLIVE CARMOCK Date: 12/23/93 11:24a Subj: Panasonic 562B Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No HI Clive, CC>After rebooting the machine I cannot repeat that - whatever CC>I do to the CD ROM and master volume levels on sb16mix and CC>the windows version - no sound Check that the cable going from the CD ROM line out to the SB16 Line in is wired correctly. The pin outs for the SB16 are covered in the back of the manual. If the cable is wired correctly check that it's not faulty in some way. If the worst comes to the worst you could always run the audio through the general line in at the back of your SB16 See ya --- * Origin: The PC SoundTrak: (UK)+743 360287 (2:2504/100.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE BLACKMORE Number: 11004 To: BRYAN ANSLOW Date: 12/26/93 10:12a Subj: Windows and PC's Cr*p Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Bryan! Wednesday December 22 1993 13:08, Bryan Anslow wrote to All: BA> having been in the MainFrame business for some 20 years, for the last 18 BA> months I have entered the world of PC's, and there seems to be one big BA> difference between the two worlds - "reliability and robustness". (Or BA> is that 2 differences?). BA> I, like many other PC users, seem to put up with software which crashes BA> with alarming regularity, for instance Windows which seems to have no BA> hardware error recovery whatsoever with the tiniest I/O error on a BA> floppy disk causing an immediate exit to DOS. >loads deleted for brevity :-) I agree with 90% of what your saying - I've 20M ram and the same sort of things used to happen to me - loads of gpf's in various applications - now installed Qemm 7.03 - ALL CURED! It seems some progs dont release resources correctly and companies are only too happy to let the general public do their beta testing for them by releasing crap too soon - Corel 4.0 is a good example. My only advice would be try Qemm 7.03 with dos 6.2, Ive found them to be very stable. Steve --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Steve`s point 9600 V32b V42b (2:250/210.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CLIVE CARMOCK Number: 11005 To: JON STOCKILL Date: 12/25/93 11:09p Subj: Panasonic 562B Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > If you want to run it under windows, then media player should > work just fine. Marcel Evans suggested this - I've tried installing the CD AUDIO driver, and then using media player. I select 'Sound' from the Device menu, and then it asks me for a filename. But I just want to play the audio CD in the drive - any ideas? > > When using this drive with a Soundblaster 16 is > > CDMKE40.SYS the correct driver? > Yup, that's the multi session driver for a 562B I think. I have since been able to find a slightly later version - called CDMKE.sys and is version 4.01 Cheers Clive --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: CC's Point, Phantasmagoria BBS. (2:2504/109.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN KIRLOW Number: 11006 To: TONY CORKERY Date: 12/24/93 9:31a Subj: Re: coreldraw v3 cd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Tony, TC> All, TC> I have a Mitsumi LU005S CD-ROM drive and I have been having great TC> difficulty in accessing the material on the CD that comes with TC> CorelDRAW V3. TC> I realise that the Mitsumi only accesses the first 600MB but there TC> seems to be vast tracts of the CD I can't get too. It either takes ages TC> for the drive to read the directory or it seems to spin forever with TC> nothing happening. TC> Has anybody had similar problems with this CD or a similar spec drive? I have CorelDraw 3 and have no problems but I have had trouble with other CDs. On was the Hot Stuff II Cd and also a another shareware one, Minerva 3 I think. Both worked OK in another drive. A friend bought a Mitsumi at the same time as me and had the same trouble, but with _every_ disk. If left running, it could take as much as an hour to unzip 1 file from CD. It worked fine in my computer. The only difference between the two computers was that his hard drive and controller was RLL, whilst mine was an IDE. Curious. Martin. Blue Wave/QWK v2.10 --- WM v3.10/93-0136 * Origin: Bedlam BBS [2200-1400] Leeds, UK +44-532-748328 (2:250/335) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE DRURY Number: 11007 To: ALL Date: 12/28/93 10:21a Subj: Caches Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi All, Can anyone recommend a decent cacheing programme that will cache both my Panasonic CD-ROM and Hard Disk - I'm fed up with having to assign precious RAM to two caches. I've heard a rumour that smartdrv 5.0 will do it (is that part of DOS 6.0? - I thought it was version 4.2). FWIW I'm using DOS 5.0 Regards Dave.D --- timEd-B10 * Origin: The Kings Bench (2:252/21.24) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PETER MORRIS Number: 11008 To: BRYAN ANSLOW Date: 12/25/93 8:10p Subj: Re: Windows and PC's Cr*p Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Bryan Anslow to All <=- BA> Hi All, Hi Bryan, Have a look at OS/2 2.1, I use it at home, and it is VERY robust, I do a LOT of DOS development under MSC 7 and I have never managed to crash the whole machine when a program under test goes rogue... Regards, Pete. ... Power Corrupts, Absolute Power is kind of neat... --- FMail 0.92 * Origin: RAYTECH BBS * Scotland UK * V32bis * +44 86288 340 (2:259/49.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: VINCENT WHITE Number: 11009 To: CLIVE CARMOCK Date: 12/27/93 8:14p Subj: Panasonic 562B Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Clive! 20 Dec 93 23:51, Clive Carmock wrote to All: CC> Does anyone know if software to enable audio CD's to be played in a CC> Panasonic 562B CD ROm drive exist, and if so where I might be able to get CC> them? In Dos I use PLAYCD.exe 17790bytes In Windows CDDB.EXE 99328bytes I can zip/arj them and post them to you if you have trouble getting them?!! CC> When using this drive with a Soundblaster 16 is CDMKE40.SYS the correct CC> driver? Yes. The Panasonic Disk I have is LMFF380073 and the M.K.E. Device Driver is Ver 4.03........ CC> Thanks CC> Clive CC> -+- GEcho 1.01+ CC> + Origin: CC's Point, Phantasmagoria BBS. (2:2504/109.2) Vin. --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: The Twilight Zone (2:250/102.9) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADAM KNOWLES Number: 11010 To: CLIVE CARMOCK Date: 12/28/93 8:51p Subj: Panasonic 562B Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello there, my good friend Clive! 25 Dec 93 23:09, Clive Carmock wrote to Jon Stockill: >> If you want to run it under windows, then media player should CC> Marcel Evans suggested this - I've tried installing the CD AUDIO driver, So have I, and apparently, CD should appear under the DEVICE option. But it doesn't! CC> and then using media player. I select 'Sound' from the Device menu, and CC> then it asks me for a filename. But I just want to play the audio CD in CC> the drive - any ideas? If you get any replies, would you forward them to me please? B C'ing U 4 Now! _/\_ |--|DaM --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: The Addamz Family Point of Doom... (2:250/102.8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEPHEN YARROW Number: 11011 To: MARTIN KIRLOW Date: 12/29/93 5:58p Subj: Re: coreldraw v3 cd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TC> I realise that the Mitsumi only accesses the first 600MB but there TC> seems to be vast tracts of the CD I can't get too. It either takes ages TC> for the drive to read the directory or it seems to spin forever with TC> nothing happening. TC> Has anybody had similar problems with this CD or a similar spec drive? MK> Blue Wave/QWK v2.10 MK> -!- WM v3.10/93-0136 MK> ! Origin: Bedlam BBS [2200-1400] Leeds, UK +44-532-748328 MK> (2:250/335) Hi You need a driver Lu005.add i have u/l it on to many BBS's Have a look on the os/2 BBS or Flight Path or netmail me on 2:254/99 Regards Stephen ... Carlton TV even makes LWT look good!!! --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR] * Origin: -*FP*- 0 Bytes free (2:254/99) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS FLYNN Number: 11012 To: PAUL SMITH Date: 12/27/93 2:07p Subj: Re: CorelDRAW V3 CD Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No TC> I realise that the Mitsumi only accesses the first 600MB but there seems PS> Rubbish! I have a Mitsumi and it reads my GigaByte Gold CD disk which PS> is 700+ megs. *Some* Mitsumis will read all of a big disc, some *won't*. ... A Woman a day keeps the Wife away --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Sound & Vision (+44)0932-252323 4Lines Usenet 9gb (2:254/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PHIL RITCHIE Number: 11013 To: JON STOCKILL Date: 12/28/93 4:40p Subj: CorelDRAW V3 CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to Tony Corkery, Jon Stockill Wrote: JS> > I realise that the Mitsumi only accesses the first JS> > 600MB but there seems JS>Yup, I had problems with the minerva 5 CDROM, due to exactly JS>the same problem. My Mitsumi Drive reads *ALL* of Minerva 5 no problem. Phil ... This copy of GEdit has been unregistered for 50 days. --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: Blue Label BBs +44-224-827166 16K8HST DS (2:259/22) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADAM KNOWLES Number: 11014 To: DAVE DRURY Date: 12/29/93 9:03p Subj: Caches Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello there, my good friend Dave! Adam peeps out of the Cavern to answer a message that Dave Drury wrote on 28 Dec 93: Yes, SmartDrv that comes with Dos 6.2 caches both cd and hd. B C'ing U...4 Now! /\ |--|DaM --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: The Addamz Family Point of Doom... (2:250/102.8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OLIVER KREFT Number: 11015 To: SCOTT CATO Date: 12/31/93 7:23p Subj: Re: Rebel Assualt Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Scott Cato said about "Rebel Assualt": SC > I can not get any joysticks to work with it properly. Maybe you can exchange your gamecard. I connected a gravis analog joystick to my soundblaster card and it worked. All the people I know, playing RA have different hardware, and it worked perfect on all the different machines. The first cd released in germany/europe was very buggy. A bugfix from the Lucasartsforum in Compuserve solved the problem. If you are able to download it from a BBS near you, do it ! :-)) Bye, Olli ... --- CrossPoint v2.1 * Origin: REALITY.SYS not found -> Reboot universe (2:243/6121.11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID SILVER Number: 11016 To: RICHARD JOHNSON Date: 01/02/94 9:06a Subj: Hitachi IF Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Richard, Friday December 10 1993 00:38, Richard Johnson wrote to David Silver: RJ> *** Quoting David Silver to Joe Rinehart dated 12-06-93 *** >> By the way, do you know any tricks to get seemingly dead 3500's >> working again? I have 2 that have "died", but either pressing on RJ> Try cleaning the lens with a Q-tip and alcohol. It very tricky to do RJ> but I did it on mine after I bought it and it solved all my little Thanks for the advice - will try it and see. David --- GoldED 2.42.G1114+ --- FastEcho+SBBS+InterMail * Origin: The Silverado <-> Heidelberg, Germany ZyXEL 19.2 (2:246/9717) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID SILVER Number: 11017 To: BRIAN ELFERT Date: 01/02/94 9:26a Subj: Christmas stuff!? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Brian, Monday December 27 1993 15:42, Brian Elfert wrote to Mike Bilow: BE> I could never get Corel SCSI for Netware 3.11 to work with a Ultrastor BE> 34F controller and a Pioneer changer. The CDSVR100 NLM would load I had the same problem with Corel SCSI! and an Adaptec 2742 and the Pioneer. First of all, refused to recognize the Adaptec and then would only give me one drive letter for the 604X. A total waste of money on my part - and they released 2.0 within a week of my purchasing 1.2 and they STILL want a 79.00 upgrade fee. Great company - not... David --- GoldED 2.42.G1114+ --- FastEcho+SBBS+InterMail * Origin: The Silverado <-> Heidelberg, Germany ZyXEL 19.2 (2:246/9717) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS HOFFECKER Number: 11018 To: JOHN ULLMER Date: 01/02/94 2:50p Subj: New Nec Cd Rom Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JOHN wrote to THOMAS HOFFECKER about New Nec Cd Rom Drive on 12-28-93 at 11:51 JU> Sorry, I forgot to mention, the SCSI does NOT come with the JU> drive/reader. You purchase the board separately. You'll JU> also need a 16 bit sound card. JU> John, Thanks for the reply. Sounds like a great CDROM drive. No problem about it not coming with a SCSI card - I already have a Future Domain 1660 SCSI-2 board in my PC. Thomas --- FastEcho+SBBS+InterMail * Origin: The Silverado <-> Heidelberg, Germany v.32bis (2:246/9717) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE ANTES Number: 11019 To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 12/31/93 10:58p Subj: Re: List Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Boris Osadciw to Bert Vaags <=- BO> If your interested, drop us a fax request at 216-225-6759 anytime or BO> you can contact us voice at 216-225-3263 and we'd be happy to assist BO> you further. I'd rather talk this way. From Zone 2 it's a lot cheaper for me! Please mail me a list, or, if I can ftp it I'll do that. Steve Antes HQ USAREUR & 7TH Army CMR 420, Box 2032 APO, AE 09063 Thanks, and Tschuess!! ... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message." --- FastEcho+SBBS+InterMail * Origin: The Silverado <-> Heidelberg, Germany v.32bis (2:246/9717) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE ANTES Number: 11020 To: JOE RINEHART Date: 12/31/93 11:13p Subj: Re: !Free Cd Catalog! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Joe Rinehart to All <=- JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!************* JR> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog... JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us. JR> We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request. JR> CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available) JR> Internet: joe.rinehart@p0.f479.n157.z1.fidonet.org I'd like to get a copy of that list. Can I ftp it? I see your Internet address is a FIDO derivative; is that just a name server that gives you that? If it is, I guess I can't ftp from it, can I? My mailing is Steve Antes HQ USAREUR & 7TH Army CMR 420, Box 2032 APO, AE 09063 Thanks in advance! Steve ... The hell with the prime directive, let's kill something. --- FastEcho+SBBS+InterMail * Origin: The Silverado <-> Heidelberg, Germany v.32bis (2:246/9717) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE ANTES Number: 11021 To: KEN DUKE Date: 01/01/94 8:54p Subj: Re: Mortal Kombat Pc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Ken Duke to Brian Keller <=- KD> I've got the real thing.. and the sound, color, graphics is just KD> great.. The chars. are exactly correct with the other game companies.. KD> Source, please! I finally saw the Super Nintendo version today and I gottahavit! BTW, a mail order source would be a help. Not too many Eggheads or Software Boutiques in Germany! ... The universe is laughing behind your back ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- FastEcho+SBBS+InterMail * Origin: The Silverado <-> Heidelberg, Germany v.32bis (2:246/9717) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JUAN LUIS PASTOR Number: 11022 To: RICK NAY Date: 12/31/93 8:40p Subj: CD-I Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi! > I can read CD-I but cannot decode its data..So if its > a games or program > you cannot run the proggy..but it can read the > disks..CD-I is not an > Intel based machine.. So what's the advantage of a CD-ROM supporting CD-I? If it can only read CD-I without running the programs, I can't see them. ¿Do you know anything to emulate a CD-I lector for the CD-ROM? Juan Luis "El Príncipe de Zamunda" --- FMail 0.92 * Origin: ----- THE PRINCE OF ZAMUNDA ----- (2:344/3.27) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUILLERMO DIONIS TRENOR Number: 11023 To: ALL Date: 01/01/94 7:35a Subj: MITUSMI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have bought a MITSUMI #LU005S and I have seen that there is a driver for OS/2 that converts the CD-ROM from KODAK PHOTO MONOSESSION to MULTISESSION. Can anybody help me in findig such a driver? Willy ... Taglines are irrelevant. You will be assimilated into the Blue Wave. --- FastEcho 1.30G+ * Origin: * Solaris BBS tel:630.42.75 (23:30 a 08.30) 14.400bps * (2:341/40) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE BLACKMORE Number: 11024 To: DAVE DRURY Date: 12/30/93 10:04p Subj: Caches Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dave! Tuesday December 28 1993 10:21, Dave Drury wrote to All: DD> Can anyone recommend a decent cacheing programme that will cache both my DD> Panasonic CD-ROM and Hard Disk - I'm fed up with having to assign precious DD> RAM to two caches. I've heard a rumour that smartdrv 5.0 will do it (is DD> that part of DOS 6.0? - I thought it was version 4.2). FWIW I'm using DOS DD> 5.0 Smartdrv 5.0 will - but its part of Dos 6.2 - what you really need is Qemm or some other memory manager. The drivers eat memory, i.e CR56X = 11K, Smartdrv = 30K - Ive lots of TSR's loaded and the best i can get without Qemm is 528K - with 630K! Steve --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Steve`s point 9600 V32b V42b (2:250/210.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAWRENCE WRIGHT Number: 11025 To: DAVE DRURY Date: 12/30/93 7:13p Subj: Caches Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Grand Admiral Drury communicated to Jedi Subject:Caches DD> Hi All, Greetings! DD> Can anyone recommend a decent cacheing programme that will cache both DD> my Panasonic CD-ROM and Hard Disk - I'm fed up with having to assign DD> precious RAM to two caches. I've heard a rumour that smartdrv 5.0 will DD> do it (is that part of DOS 6.0? - I thought it was version 4.2). FWIW Yep, the SmartDrive which comes with DOS 6.2 (MS-DOS) will cache CD-ROM drives, it does mine quite nicely. (I can't remember the version number, but you won't get it running with DOS 5!) DOS 6.2 is well worth the upgrade anyway. Bye for now. Lawrence ... Don't count your chickens if you haven't got any! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Silicon Heaven BBS: +44 (0) 626 834331: 2230-0630 (2:255/76) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ARTHURE MOORE Number: 11026 To: MARTIN KIRLOW Date: 12/29/93 4:49p Subj: coreldraw v3 cd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Martin! 24 Dec 93 09:31, Martin Kirlow wrote to Tony Corkery: TC>> I have a Mitsumi LU005S CD-ROM drive and I have been having TC>> great difficulty in accessing the material on the CD that TC>> comes with CorelDRAW V3. I realise that the Mitsumi only TC>> accesses the first 600MB but there seems to be vast tracts TC>> of the CD I can't get too. It either takes ages for the TC>> drive to read the directory or it seems to spin forever with TC>> nothing happening. TC>> Has anybody had similar problems with this CD or a similar TC>> spec drive? MK> I have CorelDraw 3 and have no problems but I have had trouble MK> with other CDs. On was the Hot Stuff II Cd and also a another MK> shareware one, Minerva 3 I think. Both worked OK in another MK> drive. A friend bought a Mitsumi at the same time as me and had MK> the same trouble, but with _every_ disk. If left running, it MK> could take as much as an hour to unzip 1 file from CD. It worked MK> fine in my computer. The only difference between the two MK> computers was that his hard drive and controller was RLL, whilst MK> mine was an IDE. Curious. Well, the only time I encountered similiar problems was when accessing data from a CDROM drive (both Mitsumi and Panasonic) from a DOS window in Windows 3.1. The CDROM drivers don't seem to able to handle requests from 2 separate sessions, or at least Windows seems to screw it up somehow. Art --- * Origin: Message originated from (2:257/404) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CLIVE CARMOCK Number: 11027 To: CHRIS CHAN Date: 12/29/93 8:13p Subj: Panasonic 562B Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Chris, > I've got the Windows version of an audio player that will do > everything > and maintain a nice CD database as well! Let me know if you > want it > and I'll upload it somewhere convenient. That would be great thanks! Yes I would find that utility very useful. Thanks Clive --- FMail0.96Γ+ RA 2.01/Pro * Origin: *\[-]\* The Glass Asylum *\[-]\* [+44 (0)268-510709] (2:257/404) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS CHAN Number: 11028 To: CLIVE CARMOCK Date: 12/29/93 9:08p Subj: Panasonic 562B Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Clive! 29 Dec 93 20:13, Clive Carmock wrote to Chris Chan: CC> Hi Chris, >> I've got the Windows version of an audio player that will do everything >> and maintain a nice CD database as well! Let me know if you want it CC> That would be great thanks! Yes I would find that utility very useful. OK, look for CDMST12.ZIP at the Glass Asylum 0268 510709. It's on the Night Owl 10 CD (Windows Applications) thru the ROMBRAIN door. Ask Glen the sysop there if you have any problems finding the file. Regards, Chris --- * Origin: Message originated from (2:257/404.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARCEL EVANS Number: 11029 To: DAVE DRURY Date: 12/30/93 11:24a Subj: Caches Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave, DD>Can anyone recommend a decent cacheing programme that will DD>cache both my Panasonic CD-ROM and Hard Disk - I'm fed up Smartdrv v5.0 does that. It's supplied with MSDOS6.x I've used it myself and it works allthough what kind of performance boost it gives is hard to tell. Personally I don't find it noticable but that could just be me. See ya --- * Origin: The PC SoundTrak: (UK)+743 360287 (2:2504/100.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARCEL EVANS Number: 11030 To: CLIVE CARMOCK Date: 12/30/93 11:29a Subj: Panasonic 562B Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Clive, CC>AUDIO driver, and then using media player. I select 'Sound' CC>from the Device menu, and then it asks me for a filename. You've selected the wrong driver in the Media Player: Instead of selecting SOUND (sound will play WAV files), select CD AUDIO. If that driver is not listed then go to your control panel and add it. It comes supplied with Windows. If you have to add it then make sure you have an audio CD in the drive.... this is VERY important as in some cases not having an audio cd in the drive will cause the MCI CD Audio driver not to be displayed in the Media Player: This might be what has happend to you. See ya --- * Origin: The PC SoundTrak: (UK)+743 360287 (2:2504/100.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KULJIT DHARNI Number: 11031 To: ALL Date: 12/28/93 6:08p Subj: Purchace of a CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No HI, After having had a look in the rags and on T.V etc I think the time to buy a CD-ROM drive is now, with the prices going down. The only problem is WHICH ONE, all the mags have differing opinions ( I'm waiting for BYTE to do a 100 CD-ROM super test). What I'm after is a fast drive for use with video. A double speed one which is hopefully not to expensive. Also the ability to use say a Sound Blaster card interface would be great as I'm also looking at getting one of those. So, if anyone can help I would be most greatfull. Thanks, - Kuljit --- GEcho 1.00/beta+ * Origin: The .\.\issing Link (Node 2) =-= London =-= V32b, HST (2:254/442) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD AIRD Number: 11032 To: CLIVE CARMOCK Date: 12/22/93 3:28p Subj: Re: Panasonic 562B Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CC> Does anyone know if software to enable audio CD's to be played in a CC> Panasonic 562B CD ROm drive exist, and if so where I might be able to CC> get them? There is loads of shareware audio CD players, available from most bbs, if you are really desperate there is a crap TSR player that comes with your CD drive in the PANA directory. But you need a audio cable connecting the soundblaster to the CD-ROM. Byee Richard ... LATE GIN - Don't look at me I'm all mixed up ! --- FMail 0.96g * Origin: BABBLE -=0532 311587=- V32b/H16 (2:256/301) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE DRURY Number: 11033 To: STEVE BLACKMORE Date: 01/01/94 9:57a Subj: Caches Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Steve, Quoting your message of Thu, 30 Dec 1993 to Dave Drury on the subject of Caches DD> Can anyone recommend a decent cacheing programme that will cache both my DD> Panasonic CD-ROM and Hard Disk.... SB> Smartdrv 5.0 will - but its part of Dos 6.2 - what you SB> really need is Qemm or some other memory manager. The SB> drivers eat memory, i.e CR56X = 11K, Smartdrv = 30K - Ive SB> lots of TSR's loaded and the best i can get without Qemm is SB> 528K - with 630K! Thanks to you and everyone else who replied.. I'm now running DOS 6.2 with Smartdrv 5.0. Also using 386MAX v7.0 and can get 628K without tryimg to hard. Dave.D --- timEd-B10 * Origin: The Kings Bench (2:252/21.24) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JUSTIN HAMILTON Number: 11034 To: DAVE DRURY Date: 12/31/93 9:46a Subj: Re: Caches Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DD> to two caches. I've heard a rumour that smartdrv 5.0 will do it (is that pa DD> of DOS 6.0? - I thought it was version 4.2). FWIW I'm using DOS 5.0 Yeah, Dos 6.2 caches CD Rom drives, don't think the ordinary Dos 6.0 does though... Tme --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: TME's Mega Corp. The UK's ONLY Renegade BBS. (2:253/417.12) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAUL CARROLL Number: 11035 To: DAVE DRURY Date: 12/31/93 12:50p Subj: Caches Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Quoting a msg of <Tuesday December 28 1993>, Dave Drury writes to All: DD> Can anyone recommend a decent cacheing programme that will cache both my DD> Panasonic CD-ROM and Hard Disk - I'm fed up with having to assign DD> precious RAM to two caches. I've heard a rumour that smartdrv 5.0 will DD> do it (is that part of DOS 6.0? - I thought it was version 4.2). FWIW DD> I'm using DOS 5.0 I beleive the SMARTDRV that comes with MS-DOS 6.2 caches CD-ROM's, Dave. -=Paul=- --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Crypt BBS: Near Derby on (0602) 445307 (2:2503/104) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAUL CARROLL Number: 11036 To: DAVE DRURY Date: 12/31/93 4:30p Subj: Caches Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Quoting a msg of <Tuesday December 28 1993>, Dave Drury writes to All: DD> Can anyone recommend a decent cacheing programme that will cache both my DD> Panasonic CD-ROM and Hard Disk - I'm fed up with having to assign DD> precious RAM to two caches. I've heard a rumour that smartdrv 5.0 will DD> do it (is that part of DOS 6.0? - I thought it was version 4.2). FWIW DD> I'm using DOS 5.0 I beleive the SMARTDRV that comes with MS-DOS 6.2 caches CD-ROM's, Dave. -=Paul=- --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Crypt BBS: Near Derby on (0602) 445307 (2:2503/104) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID PRIEST Number: 11037 To: DAVE DRURY Date: 12/30/93 7:27p Subj: Caches Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Dave! 28 Dec 93, Dave Drury writes to All: > Can anyone recommend a decent cacheing programme that will cache both my > Panasonic CD-ROM and Hard Disk - I'm fed up with having to assign precious > RAM to two caches. I've heard a rumour that smartdrv 5.0 will do it (is > that part of DOS 6.0? - I thought it was version 4.2). FWIW I'm using DOS > 5.0 Its true, Smartdrv with DOS 6.x will support caching of CD-rom's Regards, David Priest. --- Prodigy! 1.01+ * Origin: Prodigy BBS: 061-486-0030/6542 - 14k4 - GIGS OF FILES! (2:250/127) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN ROY HALLARD Number: 11038 To: DAVE DRURY Date: 01/01/94 4:15a Subj: Re: Caches Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Dave Drury to All <=- Hi DAVE DD> Can anyone recommend a decent cacheing programme that will cache both DD> my Panasonic CD-ROM and Hard Disk - I'm fed up with having to assign DD> precious RAM to two caches. I've heard a rumour that smartdrv 5.0 will DD> do it (is that part of DOS 6.0? - I thought it was version 4.2). FWIW DD> I'm using DOS 5.0 DD> Regards I would also be interested in any info you recive,cheers and a HAPPY NEW YEAR I_) I_)rian ... Press <Alt-A> to Adopt Me! I need a better home. --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: The Cavern BBS, Manchester, UK +44-61-796-1770 (2:250/102.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE MAZZOLA Number: 11039 To: GARY HUFF Date: 01/03/94 7:25p Subj: Panasonic 562/AT Bus interface card Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Gary, GH>... You can daisy chain up to 4 drives via GH>the 40-pin cable. That's how I've got 2 drives daisy chained GH>now... I You think a regular IDE dual drive cable would work?? Sounds like we have the same drives. Let me ask you, an anyone who would like to reply about a shareware CD. I'd like one with a good cheat/crack game section. ..Mike --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Quantum Leap-San Antonio Tx. (210)333-5360 H16/DS (1:387/307) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEVIN BRENNAN Number: 11040 To: MIKE KARINA Date: 01/04/94 1:14a Subj: Re: Mad Dog McCree Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting MIKE KARINA to All <=- MK> you play a kinda movie). I'm using a Mitsumi, it has 340ms (or close MK> to) access speed, 32k buffer etc. Im using a 386DX 40 w/128k cache MK> and DOS 6.2... Now my problem is the animation is extremely jumpy, MK> not just the usual scenes where the animation is, it just gets jumpy MK> when I shoot at a guy. It takes roughly 3 secs for the guy to fall The problem is most likely that your CDRom drive does not transfer data fast enough. I have the game also and all works great on my machine using a toshiba SCSI drive with a 300+k transfer rate, on another machine using a SB Panasonic CDRom with a transfer rate of 150k I have the same problems that you describe. Hope this helps. Kevin --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 * Origin: The Insanity Exchange. (714)952-3180 (1:103/255) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS ROBINSON@1:226/110 Number: 11041 To: AL BRATLIE@FN Date: 01/03/94 6:36p Subj: Advice, please... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I looking at the same card and for the same answer as you. If you don't mind doing it, could you drop me a note if you find the answer? I'm more concerned with the sound card at present. I am also looking into this new wave (pardon the pun) of cards using wavetable synthesis. According to many articles (i.e. pg.38 Jan PCConnection) I'm hearing that these wavetable cards are the way to go yet are cheaper than the SB16 ASP SCSI-2. The cards talked heavily about are the Orchid Soundwave 32, Diamond Sonic Pro, and the Cardinal ????? (don't recall). Just thought I'd through more confusion your way, Al. After all, I don't want to face this alone...ha. Good luck and keep me informed. CR --- WM v3.10/92-0004 * Origin: The Computer Room-Pickerington, Oh (614)861-8377 (1:226/110) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAUL NALEY@1:109/538 Number: 11042 To: ALL@FN Date: 01/03/94 6:36p Subj: Return to Zork Upgrade Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have seen a few messages today that would indicate that there is a upgrade patch available for Return to Zork. Does anyone know if Activision has a operating BBS and if so the phone # for it. If Activision does not have a BBS then I would appreciate a FidoNet address that I may Freq the upgrade file from in the USA atleast at 14.4k baud. Thank you. --- WM v3.10/91-0058 * Origin: Little Rascals BBS - Pr. Frederick, Md. 301-855-9420 (1:109/538) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEVIN O'BUCKLEY@1:116/39 Number: 11043 To: ALL@FN Date: 01/03/94 6:37p Subj: Labyrinth of Time Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Has anyone out there played Labyrinth of Time CD? This is an excellent new game by Electronic Arts, but I am having trouble. I can't seem to go anywhere! I'm unable to go anywhere in a mine shaft, and there are a bunch of locked door I can't break through. If you haven't seen Labyrinth, I suggest you take a look at it! It has great sound and graphics, but it doesn't have speech. Thanks. Kevin --- VPurge [DOS] V4.07 * Origin: The School Board [Hornell, NY, USA] (1:260/650) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB BREED@1:390/22 Number: 11044 To: SAM FIGUEROA@FN Date: 01/03/94 6:38p Subj: MOVIE CD REQUEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BB> Yeah, but that's based on Leonard Maltin's movie guide. The BB>printed version fails both movie tests -- and really is BB>incomplete on Sakall. (Gotta have something little more complete BB>-- although MS Cinemania is a pretty good product. SF> that it has clips of the movies and what not! Do you have any SF> recommendation on which Encyclopedia to buy? I'm in the market and SF> cannot decide whether to get Encarta, Groliers, or Comptons??? I got Encarta for Xmas. Very impressive demo of what Multi- media should be. MicroSoft finally did something right! It appears to be fairly decent in depth. As a test I had it look up the Rosetta Stone and Queen Nefertiti. (I'm a great one for testing these programs for depth -- these are two items about Egypt that should be mentioned.) Encarta passed both .. quite a bit of detail on the Rosetta stone, even a still picture. Nefertiti was covered, also with a picture of her and her King. (Not the picture you usually see of her tho..) The sound and motion clips are above average. The clip of Souza band playing the "Stars and Stripes" is great. I would say that it would cover a great many things for a 'quick look.' I belive that the other two Encyclopedia's cover things in more depth, but perhaps don't have the 'flash' of this program. Now if we could just get 'flash' AND depth -- wouldn't that be great. (We should live so long ;-)) If you have any 'test' subjects you would like me check-out, let me know and I'll give it a whirl and tell you what happens. The box says it's for ages 9 and up ... kinda leads me to believe that it is slanted towards school projects. The text portions are also slanted that way. Bottom line -- I like it! Probably some out there with more depth, but this IS a polished product that, if nothing else, really shows what the future of Multi-media can be. ... Didja ever wonder: why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets anyway?! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- ProBoard v1.31 [EVALUATION] * Origin: Alien Biker Kat BBS (619) 277-4140 (1:202/1010) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB BREED@1:390/22 Number: 11045 To: DANNY WOFFORD@FN Date: 01/03/94 6:39p Subj: LOOKING FOR MOVIE DATABA Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CS> 1994 which can be recommended regarding Movies ? CS> Are there other CD's ? DW> Yes there is, called Movie Select by Paramount Interactive and DW> may I say it is one of the better ones I have seen including Micrsoft DW> Cinemania......... Next time you have 'movie select' loaded, how about checking how many movies it lists a star named S. Z. Sakall appearing in? (I assume you can search by star?) Also, does it list "Easy To Wed,' and "Twice Blessed"? (Movies made in the 1940's that were less than best sellers.) Thanks. ... 'No Kidding' - a form of birth control. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- ProBoard v1.31 [EVALUATION] * Origin: Alien Biker Kat BBS (619) 277-4140 (1:202/1010) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON WAGNER@1:309/9 Number: 11046 To: JOHN ASCENZO@FN Date: 01/03/94 6:39p Subj: ker--bussshhh Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JA> Nail polish remover is almost pure Acetone, which is a strong JA> solvent for other organics, such as polyester and acrylics. The JA> "white stuff" is the residual of dissolved plastic from the JA> surface of your disk following the evaporation of the acetone. JA> It may be possible to recover the disk by polishing the surface JA> with a (very) mildly abrasive compound and restoring the shine. JA> I can't suggest a suitable polish to use but others might. It may also be possible that the acid ate into the CD in an uneven pattern, thus making the CD rough and "rocky..." ie no longer perfectly flat. This may have an adverse affect on its reflective and/or read properties.... A ROM reader cannot read off of a pitted and eaten disc, can it? Just a theory, so someone please prove me wrong so I can learn! <G> Jason ... RAM DISK is NOT an installation procedure! --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: The Analog Gate *(16.8kbs HST/DS)* (602) 458-0451 (1:309/9) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON WAGNER@1:309/9 Number: 11047 To: RICK BYERS@FN Date: 01/03/94 6:40p Subj: Lots 'O Questions! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RB> Ok, often times, the makers of the program that's on CD will install RB> some files on your hard drive. It depends on the program. Sometimes RB> they will give you the option. I have a mitsumi also, and it's serving RB> me fine for the moment. The Encyclopedia that I have installed 550K on RB> my hard drive wich isn't bad, but I think it gave me the option of RB> either the slower method (installing just the necasary files), which is RB> what I did, or the quicker method of installing everything but the data RB> files. Hmmm... The option thing really appeals to me. I hope all manufactures end up giving the user the option of whether to run a slow program that unpacks, or a fast one that takes up drive space... Would be nice to actually have an option... TTYL Jason ... "Clinton" - The Chia-Pet of cheif executives everywhere! --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: The Analog Gate *(16.8kbs HST/DS)* (602) 458-0451 (1:309/9) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VAISEY@1:154/848 Number: 11048 To: CHRIS SOBOTKIEWICZ@FN Date: 01/03/94 6:41p Subj: ENCARTA CD ENCYCLOPEDIA Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > HEELLPP! Im having problems with my ENCARTA 94 CD. I cant Search > for text, (except for contents), search for animations, videos, or > audios, OORR Images! I says stuff like enc94i2.dll cannpot be accessed, > or MVMCI2.dll cannot be accessed, and when trying to search topics, it > says could not create the bneccessary file for searching. Does anyone > have encarta? Or know what the problems might be? I have those two files > in the Windows, Windows\System and the \encarta directory! But nothing > works! Help! Please! Yeah I got it. I have had NO problems with it. ENC94i2.DLL -- I don't have it and mine works fine. MVMCI2.DLL -- Windows\System ONLY! It sounds like you have a problem with the CD its self. Have a nice day. --- GEcho/786 1.01+ :-) * Origin: LakeShore Lmtd. (Rochester, NY * USA) (1:2613/353) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SHERREE JOHANSSON@3:640/937 Number: 11049 To: ARTHUR OLGUIN@FN Date: 01/03/94 6:42p Subj: Sausages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No AO> I am new to this cooking board. I like what I see. AO> Anyway, what I would like to ask everyone for my first request for a AO> receipe is sausages. I am looking for all kinds of Welcome Art, I like what I see in here too, I am forever retyping recipes people are so wonderful to pass on. Here are a few sausage recipes. And to anyone else who likes them, I apologise for not putting them in Mealmaster format but I do not have Mealmaster. Software shops are sparse here and I havn't seen the program. CZAR'S PEASANT SAUSAGE 500 gms lean pork, hind leg (knuckle) or back (blade) 300 gms lean beef 200 gms back bacon fat or belly without skin 20 gms salt 1/2 tsp finely ground white pepper 1/2 tsp finely ground nutmeg 1 tsp marjoram 1 tbsp milk Mince meat mass and fat through 10mm disc, then mix in all other ingredients for 5-10 mins. Fill pork casings and twist into 150mm lengths. ************* MONASTERY HERBAL SAUSAGE 400 gms lean pork 400 gms lean beef 200 gms green pork back fat or fatty pork belly without skin 20 gms salt 2 level tsps finely ground white pepper 1 tsp thyme 1 tsp marjoram 5 pieces pimento 1 piece finely ground cinnamon Mince pork, beef and fat through 8mm disc. Mix herbs and spices and sprinkle over meat mass and mix all together by hand for 5-10 mins. Fit funnel to mixer and fill pork casings. Twist into length of choice. ****************** Cont.. ___ X RM 1.2 X Eval Day 13 X RoboMail -- The next generation QWK compatible reader! --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Paradise BBS, Australia's Gold Coast, +61-75-971717 (3:640/937) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANDREW SEE@3:800/809@FIDONET Number: 11050 To: TED HARPER@FN Date: 01/03/94 6:43p Subj: Cdrom Echo In Aust Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TH>There is NO cost-recovery system for Fidonet echomail in Australia. TH>We sysops do not pay into any "slush fund" for mail importation or TH>movement. Those that move large volumes of mail around the country do TH>so out of their own pocket, or through some private sponsorship TH>scheme they may have with their company. TH>Dave Hatch was bringing in a huge volume of mail into the country and TH>acts as the "zone gate" for virtually all international netmail TH>between Australia and the rest of the world. TH>Fidonet as an entity does not contribute one red cent to his costs. TH>Due to necessary and suddenly enforced belt-tightening, he has TH>dropped about a dozen of the international echos which he was TH>importing, but didn't have a direct personal interest in (remember TH>this is a *hobby* and an expensive one for some of us) - CDROM is TH>just one of those. TH>Any money you pay in subscriptions to Fidonet BBSs in Australia goes TH>to the upkeep, care and feeding of that system _only_, not any of the TH>infrastructure which actually provides the value to the overall TH>network. Other networks may have some form of echomail cost-recovery TH>mechanism, but the metering, billing and actual collection and TH>distribution of the money cause huge problems in most cases. TH>There is no "system" for you to contribute to, other than directly TH>supporting the person whose STD and ISD bills make the echos you like TH>possible. You could also possibly set up an international link TH>yourself, only needing to find a reliable overseas feed and a lazy TH>couple of hundred dollars a week every week to bring in the echos you TH>feel you may now be missing out on. Ted, having read thru your explanantion above, I feel that the fidonet mail cost system is inadequate. Surely a *much* better, more reliable system would be to get a small contribution from all participating sysops, then pool the money for importation of mail. The reliability of a system which places the financial burden on one dude is low, however if it is distributed among hundreds, the loss of any one contibutor won't make a difference. Do they have fido-sysop meetings/conventions etc? This should be considered. I believe this is what the GTnet does. --- Fmail.96+/RA2+/IM2.25+ * Origin: Galen BBS "A Happy Heart is like Good Medicine" (3:711/920) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE MANN@3:632/530 Number: 11051 To: TONY MARTIN@FN Date: 01/03/94 6:44p Subj: Goliers V6 and MS Encarta Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tony Martin wrote to Simon Chung: > I have both encyclopedias and I rate Encarta the best > because of its huge amounts of multimedia extras. There are ... > I don't think the quality of the text differs a great > amount between the two so I'd go for Encarta. Many, including myself, would disagree with you. They're both excellent but most agree the depth of information is better on Groliers. Cheers, Steve. --- msgedsq 2.2b * Origin: ENCOM Support - 3:711/440 (3:711/440) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KIRKBY@3:711/446 Number: 11052 To: STEVE MANN@FN Date: 01/03/94 6:45p Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KM> I am also assuming this new CDROM echo link (Aust./US) is KM> bi-directional otherwise I'm speaking to myself. KM> KM> Cheers, Steve. KM> --- msgedsq 2.2b KM> * Origin: ENCOM Support - 3:711/440 (3:711/440) --- TosScan 1.00 * Origin: The Software Bank - Northridge, Ca (818)993-5516 1:102/813 (1:102/813) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOUG CARPENTER@2:2405/21 Number: 11053 To: DAVID SILVER@FN Date: 01/03/94 6:46p Subj: Re: Night Owl 10 Virus!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Dave Reed to Benjamin Ortiz <=- DR> What's your involvement with Richard, anyway? Are you lovers? DS> Thanks for helping me to decide who NOT to buy from - namely, you... That's an idle threat to Dave since he is not selling CDs anymore <g>. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: MAXspeed/ISDN BBS * 3775 cps..and accelerating!! (1:362/119) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE BARONE@2:2501/308 Number: 11054 To: BRYAN ANSLOW@FN Date: 01/03/94 6:47p Subj: Windows and PC's Cr*p Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Bryan, I to am a mainframe programmer & have experienced the same type of problems. When my staff develop or use a PC & we try to enforce things such as standards, source library controls or normal audit procedures they all balk at them. My usual response is 'when PCs grow up to be like mainframes you will have to do things this way'. For some reason though, they still haven't grown up yet. Ah, the frustrations of a mainframe programmer...... --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Electronic Republic BBS Meriden, CT USA (N1PXN) (1:141/451) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JANUSZ SUROWKA@1:261/1125 Number: 11055 To: TONY WILLIAMS@FN Date: 01/03/94 6:47p Subj: Freeing up space Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to All, Tony Williams said: TW> Does anyone know of anyway that I can access more upper TW> memory to load some other files so that I have more room in TW> conventional? My cd-rom that I just installed is running its TW> driver in upper memory putting other drivers and other files TW> running in conventional. This causes me to have limited TW> capacity for running programs requiring 512k or more of TW> convetional memory. Any ideas? TW> Thanx TW> Tony Tony, if you have a 386 or better, you can Get an Expanded memory manager Such as QEMM386, or if you have DOS 6 You can just type memmaker, and you're all set!! If you have a 286, then Your Beat!! But there is hope, My friend Runs a 286 amd He loads his drivers into Himem, using DR DOS 5 ( i beleieve) --- GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: Phone Henge [203-826-1153 HST16/V32b] New Britain,CT (1:142/212) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAWRENCE MINTZ@1:282/108 Number: 11056 To: AL BRATLIE@FN Date: 01/03/94 6:48p Subj: Advice, please... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Then of course I have the same questions as > other newbees to this > realm. SCSI or not SCSI ? I have been told by several > people that SCSI is the > way to go, but no one has told me why. I already have > 2 IDE hard drives on > my system, so I don't know if the normal CD adapter > cards will work. Once you have ONE SCSI controller in your system, you can place seven (7) devices on that controller, including hard drives, tape drives, CD-ROM drives, etc. That is the advantage of SCSI. SCSI controllers do get along with IDE controllers, ie, you can have both in the same machine. Hard drives on the SCSI controller may not be bootable drives if an IDE controller and drive exist on the same machine. Even the proprietary standard CD-ROM controllers work with IDE controllers and drives. > I see double, and tripple speed drives on the > market now. Just how > fast are these things going to get ? I would hate to > be stuck with something > that 'just meets' the demands of todays software, but > will become obsolete > in a year. Are any of these drives upgradable ? Drives are typically NOT upgradeable, except by replacement with new, faster, units. On the speed issue, there will always be a better, faster, cheaper, solution coming in a few months or years. Why then are you not waiting for the release of Intel's 80686 machine with it's 128 bit wide data paths, 1 megabyte internal cache, etc? Please note that the above specifications are ficticious (I have no inside knowledge as to the NEXT Intel microprocessor,) but are used as an example. Twenty years ago, computers were not consumer products. Twelve years ago, IBM introduced the first PC with a whopping 64k of RAM and an Intel 8088 microprocessor. Today's desktop PCs come with 1 or more megabytes of RAM, 80486 family microprocessors or Pentium (aka 80586) microprocessors, etc. The technology advances all the time, and the rate is increasing. If you need it now, don't worry about what will be obsolete in a year or two, but buy what you need now, when you need it. Larry --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: Mintz BBS, Silver Spring, MD (1:109/427.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS ZITO@1:141/333 Number: 11057 To: ASHWIN BIHARI@FN Date: 01/03/94 6:49p Subj: Doom on a GUS? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No AB> Hey Chirs, hows it going having talked to you in a while, well I have AB> played the game and love that sound aswell, well I had some problems AB> getting the music to work but I fixed it, well TTYL. AB> Ashwin Hi Ashwin, did you try the game with headphones? Isn't Focal Point 3D? I heard some people even finished a level with their eyes closed because the GUS 3d sound was so good, they could tell where everything was coming from. As for problems at first, yeah, me too, but I got the patch and everything works fine. The Problem was with IRQ's I think, and will be eliminated from all future versions of DOOM. iD did one hell of a job with the game though. --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Ascii Neighborhood - The place to be. (1:141/333) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS ANSELL@3:620/262.12 Number: 11058 To: LEON PATSIATZIS@FN Date: 01/03/94 6:50p Subj: Rebel Assult Patch?? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Leon, my name is Chris Ansell and i was planning on getting a cd rom drive plus rebel assault later in march. I have watched rebel assault a few times on various setups at shops, and i have noticed that it hangs on the odd occasion. This would be very annoying if you owned it and it kept hanging. I sympathise with you and wanted to ask you what kind of cd rom drive you have, coz i was thinking about getting one of those multimedia oacks with the SB 16 card and the double speed panasonic cd rom. If this is your cd rom, could you pass on any opinio